Discussion Loser

[epic]

I feel like a complete loser right now and more so if I commit suicide . Just a burden who used up O2 and this planets resources and gives back very little to the society. What about you ? Why or why not do you feel this way ?

 

[Darkover]

being suicidal doesn't make someone a loser very few people get to change the world and make a contribution thats really of worth, most people just live pay check to paycheck in a crappy job they hate, don't think your a loser if you free load of society theres 10 of millions of people who do just that, just enjoy what you can out of life while it last because this world is dying soon to run out of resources within the next 200 years so i wouldent worry about it

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Nope, but being a loser is one of the many reasons I want to die.

 

[Forever Sleep]

No- it makes me feel like a rebel. Life makes me feel like a loser more than death will.

I expect I have a messed up view of both life and death though to be honest. Life feels cheap to me. Maybe because my Mum died when I was 3. I just think- no matter what you achieve in life- death will come along to take it all away anyway.

I DO definitely feel the pressure to comply and support myself though. It also REALLY hurts me that I've failed in my creative career. That meant everything to me. Still- ultimately I feel like none of it matters. My life doesn't really matter. Yes- it will hurt people if I go- which is why I have hung on for so long. But to me personally- it's all just a farce really.

I also likely have a slightly romanticised perspective of suicide. I expect people (normies) would consider that perverse and dangerous- but I'm not trying to push it on anyone else. I know it's messed up! I've been suicidal to varying degrees for 33 years. It's something I'm very comfortable with now. I suppose I feel like it's almost 'natural' for artists to kill themselves and I definitely have an artists temperament.

I suppose I don't really see it as an act of weakness but more- an act of defiance. I suppose it is weak in the way that you are relenting- no longer willing to fight for your life. But- WHAT does that life entail? Working to make rich people richer? Thanks but I'd rather die free than live as a slave.

 

[Lonerzepam]

No. It's not my fault I got a rare illness, handycap and mental health issues. Also I didn't live a boring live at all and made "kinda" the most out of it. Don't be to harsh to yourself dude

 

[Givenuponlife]

I'm mixed about this question. It's more my own failings and problems which make me feel like a loser rather than having suicidal thoughts and desires per se, but they probably confirm my own view of myself in all honesty.

 

[epic]

very few people get to change the world and make a contribution thats really of worth, most people just live pay check to paycheck in a crappy job they hate it

I disagree, The crappy job which a lot of people hate like a mcdonalds burger flipper does make poeple's lives better , customers get a delicious burger and a full stomach . Same goes for most jobs I think , unless someone is a snake oil salesman . I do respect your opinion though

I suppose I don't really see it as an act of weakness but more- an act of defiance. I suppose it is weak in the way that you are relenting

An act of defiance ! Interesting take . Never thought about it that way .
I don't view the act itself as weak but that many of us (especially people like me in the 20s) will be gone contributing very little to the world and leaving behind friends and family with emotional trauma, I can't get it out of my mind that thats weak .

Life feels cheap to me. Maybe because my Mum died when I was 3

I'm sorry for your loss

 

[absolomonisgone]

No- it makes me feel like a rebel. Life makes me feel like a loser more than death will.

I expect I have a messed up view of both life and death though to be honest. Life feels cheap to me. Maybe because my Mum died when I was 3. I just think- no matter what you achieve in life- death will come along to take it all away anyway.

I DO definitely feel the pressure to comply and support myself though. It also REALLY hurts me that I've failed in my creative career. That meant everything to me. Still- ultimately I feel like none of it matters. My life doesn't really matter. Yes- it will hurt people if I go- which is why I have hung on for so long. But to me personally- it's all just a farce really.

I also likely have a slightly romanticised perspective of suicide. I expect people (normies) would consider that perverse and dangerous- but I'm not trying to push it on anyone else. I know it's messed up! I've been suicidal to varying degrees for 33 years. It's something I'm very comfortable with now. I suppose I feel like it's almost 'natural' for artists to kill themselves and I definitely have an artists temperament.

I suppose I don't really see it as an act of weakness but more- an act of defiance. I suppose it is weak in the way that you are relenting- no longer willing to fight for your life. But- WHAT does that life entail? Working to make rich people richer? Thanks but I'd rather die free than live as a slave.

Well put. Exactly.

 

[Blackroom_57]

Viewing yourself as a winner or a loser is just a behaviour induced by our culture. We are encouraged to judge our lives in terms of our achievements and how much better than others we are. I think the obsession with status that is common in western society is a result of the fact that there's nothing else to fight for. There's no God and we have no great struggle. So what is left? The amount of wealth we accumulate of course and that has become the pursuit of the new generation.

As far as anyone knows, we are here for nothing and there is no purpose to life. Stop losing sleep over what others think of you. They have their own curses and problems to deal with. Besides, being a "winner" doesn't excuse you from life. Why else would people like Avicii and Kate Spade commit suicide? Because life is still suffering even if you are a winner. All you have to do to break free from the influence of social judgement is stop caring. That's literally it. The opinions of others only hold as much gravity as you give them.

 

[FuneralCry]

No, of course I don't, and I have absolutely no self hatred. I am not the problem, but rather life is instead. It wasn't my fault that I was forced into this horrific world filled with endless suffering, and in my case thoughts of suicide are what make so much sense. I don't see existence as being worth enduring, and wanting to die is just the logical response to this. There is nothing appealing about existing that could ever make me wish to stay here and I envy those who choose to voluntarily leave this world. I consider them to be the true fortunate ones, as they are free from the awful and unnecessary burden that is existence.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

The crappy job which a lot of people hate like a mcdonalds burger flipper does make poeple's lives better , customers get a delicious burger and a full stomach

Actually, eating that slop causes many health ailments and shortens their lives.

 

[MyLifeisHell]

No. Everything else does.

 

[movinout17]

Yes for me. It's normal in society to fight being suicidal, normies say it's the easy way out, which people on this sub would say is bullshit. I do struggle with feeling like a loser if I go through with it, it's throwing away any potential for a life. It's escape. That's the way it is for my situation, since I am young and have support.
Other people, I understand are older and have lived through their adult lives already. So fuck it.