Let's face it, suicide is impossible.

[paredler]

Nature won't let us out. The human body survives everything, from starvation, through drowning, to gunshot in the abdomen, the human body survives everything. The only way to go is N, which is impossible to obtain.

 

[Shu]

It's not gonna survive a nice salty drink if you do it properly.

 

[paredler]

It's not gonna survive a nice salty drink if you do it properly.

99.99999% of world's population doesn't have access to this salty drink.

 

[Shu]

That's not true at all. Sure there's a large population of people that don't have access to it. There are companies that ship internationally. Unless customs gets their package.

 

[veryhappyhuman]

I mean, the stats don't lie, close to a million people manage it every year. I'd say it's very difficult (which is sad in its own way) but not impossible.

 

[Sun n showers]

99.99999% of world's population doesn't have access to this salty drink.

Nature won't let us out. The human body survives everything, from starvation, through drowning, to gunshot in the abdomen, the human body survives everything. The only way to go is N, which is impossible to obtain.

Thousands of people commit suicide every day, thousands fail to also,

 

[CassieHoward]

as far as the lethality of methods go n isn't exactly alone at the top. most people fail because they go by impulse and don't make any concrete plans - or when they do, those plans are flawed.

obviously n is ideal, but it's disingenuous to act as if it's the only feasible method

 

[Zerengin96]

Well millions of people who commited suicide would disagree with that if they could still talk

 

[paredler]

as far as the lethality of methods go n isn't exactly alone at the top. most people fail because they go by impulse and don't make any concrete plans - or when they do, those plans are flawed.

obviously n is ideal, but it's disingenuous to act as if it's the only feasible method

But why is it so easy to fail? Not because people are stupid, but because suicide is a really hard thing to do

 

[CassieHoward]

But why is it so easy to fail? Not because people are stupid, but because suicide is a really hard thing to do

it can be when you go for something that isn't exactly foolproof, sure

 

[Pedronte]

Suicide isn't that difficult. What happens is that we think so much about the whole thing.
Of course, if you don't have a solid plan, you'll mostly fail, but with enough planning, you'll get there. SN is a functional method, for example.
I chose it for CTB.

 

[Yumeko.dreams]

Suicide isn't that difficult. What happens is that we think so much about the whole thing.
Of course, if you don't have a solid plan, you'll mostly fail, but with enough planning, you'll get there. SN is a functional method, for example.
I chose it for CTB.

A big issue is possibility. Most people can right now, set themselves on fire, gouge their throat, stab their gut, etc. But fuck that.
They could also find some friendly train tracks, a high building, or a deep bit of water. (Thise last two are debatable, some of these people wouldn't be able to leave house anyways)
So the only appealing options are hanging (partial bc full usually needs to be outside) or one of the various Korean method derived ones. Unfortunately those are difficult as hell, and partial is notorialsy unreliable.
At the very least, trains will always be there for them.

 

[Pedronte]

A big issue is possibility. Most people can right now, set themselves on fire, gouge their throat, stab their gut, etc. But fuck that.
They could also find some friendly train tracks, a high building, or a deep bit of water. (Thise last two are debatable, some of these people wouldn't be able to leave house anyways)
So the only appealing options are hanging (partial bc full usually needs to be outside) or one of the various Korean method derived ones. Unfortunately those are difficult as hell, and partial is notorialsy unreliable.
At the very least, trains will always be there for them.

True. However, even in situations where you don't have many possibilities, I wouldn't say suicide is THAT difficult.
For me, saying that is a bit too much; people tend to overestimate the human body. Sentimental thinking doesn't help too. You need to plan and think rationally when it comes to suicide if you don't intend to fail.

I know many well-planned attempts fail anyway (like the exit bag fails thread I saw yesterday, in which people were saying they unconsciously tore the bag), but this isn't likely to happen. Trains, for example, are always there for those who don't have options, as you said. And if you HAVE conditions to do something better (SN and similars), it's likely to be EASY.

 

[Yumeko.dreams]

True. However, even in situations where you don't have many possibilities, I wouldn't say suicide is THAT difficult.
For me, saying that is a bit too much; people tend to overestimate the human body. Sentimental thinking doesn't help too. You need to plan and think rationally when it comes to suicide if you don't intend to fail.

I know many well-planned attempts fail anyway (like the exit bag fails thread I saw yesterday, in which people were saying they unconsciously tore the bag), but this isn't likely to happen. Trains, for example, are always there for those who don't have options, as you said. And if you HAVE conditions to do something better (SN and similars), it's likely to be EASY.

Yeah. I for example am about 3 failed attempts away from going to a railway, because my only options are that or some kind of rope/ratchet/tourniquet mess. Unfortunately I guess I'm unchokable, because despite trying everything and really pushing myself, I've only gotton a little head poundy. My arteries are invincible :(
In other news, why do so many people get N/SN and then just let it sit for a year? If thry suddenly find enough meaning to trudge though another year, are they really after death, or just comfort in the idea of it? I can understand waiting for a pet or familu member to go first, but outside of that I'm lost.

 

[Pedronte]

Yeah. I for example am about 3 failed attempts away from going to a railway, because my only options are that or some kind of rope/ratchet/tourniquet mess. Unfortunately I guess I'm unchokable, because despite trying everything and really pushing myself, I've only gotton a little head poundy. My arteries are invincible :(
In other news, why do so many people get N/SN and then just let it sit for a year? If thry suddenly find enough meaning to trudge though another year, are they really after death, or just comfort in the idea of it? I can understand waiting for a pet or familu member to go first, but outside of that I'm lost.

I'm really sorry you need to suffer that much just because people think we shouldn't have the right to die.
Why can't you get SN? Is it illegal where you live? It's legal here where I live, but I didn't buy it yet. Thinking about doing it at Christmas.

 

[Kawaii_Shoujo215]

I feel like, for me atleast, survival instinct is the biggest barrier between the realm of suffering and the realm of eternal peace. Of course reliable methods are hard to come by, but without the mental/instinctual block, I feel like the act itself would be significantly easier (albeit still difficult), atleast for me.

 

[Yumeko.dreams]

I'm really sorry you need to suffer that much just because people think we shouldn't have the right to die.
Why can't you get SN? Is it illegal where you live? It's legal here where I live, but I didn't buy it yet. Thinking about doing it at Christmas.

I'm basically homeless, and am not going to risk getting a bunch of random drugs delivered here in 3 months.
Plus I've been trying to ctb asap, not trying to fuck around with the waiting game when I've been trying nonstop for like 2 weeks.
Just failed 2 more times btw :) my carotids are actually just impossible to compress aren't they? Unless I missed something about the tourniquet method, I don't think everything including swallowing should hurt, all while not even feeling a little woozy.
If you got any tips for squeezing the tubes please tell me.

 

[DarkRocket]

Yeah. I for example am about 3 failed attempts away from going to a railway, because my only options are that or some kind of rope/ratchet/tourniquet mess. Unfortunately I guess I'm unchokable, because despite trying everything and really pushing myself, I've only gotton a little head poundy. My arteries are invincible :(
In other news, why do so many people get N/SN and then just let it sit for a year? If thry suddenly find enough meaning to trudge though another year, are they really after death, or just comfort in the idea of it? I can understand waiting for a pet or familu member to go first, but outside of that I'm lost.

I bought sodium nitrite last year and haven't even opened the bag. Why? I can't bring to kill myself yet when so many people rely on me for advice and "a helping hand".

I need to steel my heart more......and I'm working on that.

 

[Yumeko.dreams]

I bought sodium nitrite last year and haven't even opened the bag. Why? I can't bring to kill myself yet when so many people rely on me for advice and "a helping hand".

I need to steel my heart more......and I'm working on that.

The sheer irony of people finding a reason to live, via helping people die.
Probably the reason so many people like nopainnolife are still kicking.
Have fun with your living adventured then I suppose.

 

[DarkRocket]

The sheer irony of people finding a reason to live, via helping people die.
Probably the reason so many people like nopainnolife are still kicking.
Have fun with your living adventured then I suppose.

I'm super ready to die mentally......it's just physically, I need more will. Too many people are encouraging me to live and go on, and sadly it's working.

 

[Yumeko.dreams]

I'm super ready to die mentally......it's just physically, I need more will. Too many people are encouraging me to live and go on, and sadly it's working.

Then go on for a little bit and see if that's still what you want.
I'm not in any place to try and play the empath, given my lack of feelings and or 'good' morals... But I know for a lot of people ctb is not done lightly... At least not for the ones here above 18.
But you should at least attempt to 'live' for a little bit. Hell, go do normie shit.

 

[FuneralCry]

It certainly does feel that way for me. Denying people the option of a peaceful exit and trying to trap them in lives filled with suffering is beyond cruel. The fact that suicide is so difficult and that methods can fail is the only reason as to why I am still here. Euthanasia should be a human right and nobody should ever have to research suicide on the internet. A peaceful death is the best thing that could possibly happen as non existence is always preferable to living. Death is the absence of all suffering and instead of an painful existence there is nothing.

 

[outrider567]

Nature won't let us out. The human body survives everything, from starvation, through drowning, to gunshot in the abdomen, the human body survives everything. The only way to go is N, which is impossible to obtain.

Wrong, not the only way--Nitrogen is lethal and its success rate is the same as N

But why is it so easy to fail? Not because people are stupid, but because suicide is a really hard thing to do

Golden Gate Bridge jumpers, only a small percentage don't succeed---You jump off a place high enough, you're dead, especially the NYC 'landing on concrete' jumpers

 

[NeverEndingPain]

I'm basically homeless, and am not going to risk getting a bunch of random drugs delivered here in 3 months.
Plus I've been trying to ctb asap, not trying to fuck around with the waiting game when I've been trying nonstop for like 2 weeks.
Just failed 2 more times btw :) my carotids are actually just impossible to compress aren't they? Unless I missed something about the tourniquet method, I don't think everything including swallowing should hurt, all while not even feeling a little woozy.
If you got any tips for squeezing the tubes please tell me.

Can you explain how you went about this method first?

 

[worn_out]

I've failed at three different methods for different reasons, yet I see other people manage it, so I refuse to believe its impossible. Is it unfairly, painfully hard though? Yeah.

 

[Murasa]

Death haunts us, our existence is fragile as well as our body if there is no intervention. But no one wants to go away in a miserable way, nor do we deserve to resort to such brutal means. Leaving peacefully is difficult, the available means have an error rate and that generates fear, both because of the non-intervention pain and people determined to force us to live with those consequences.

 

[GasMonkey]

Sounds like a pro-lifer trying to scaremonger.

 

[Painless_end]

Your statement is factually incorrect.

I think you mean, suicide is very difficult which is something we might agree on.

It is indeed very difficult for me since I don't have the pain tolerance to withstand a mosquito bite without flinching and scratching myself yet I keep thinking of just not existing all the time.

 

[theboy]

What are you talking about? tell me it's a joke please

 

[Sun n showers]

it can be when you go for something that isn't exactly foolproof, sure

Jumping off a 600ft cliff is pretty fool proof, but I'm finding the stepping one foot over the other massive problem. So desperate at this stage