Help Legality of Ordering SN in the United States from DMC

[lapislazu]

Hello everyone. I've already asked this question before but I am extremely worried so I am asking again:

Will there be any problems if I order SN from DMC directly to my house? I live in the United States. i want to make sure this is legal and that I won't be causing problems for my family, who also lives in this house.

Thank you. I appreciate any insight, especially from those who have ordered from DMC.

 

[rs929]

I am trying to get DMC contact. Could you help me? I understand if you cant

 

[Juggernaut1010]

I ordered from DMC back in December to my address, and it got delivered without any issues. Don't really know about the legality, though.

 

[Eudaimonic]

It's not illegal, but some states are considering legislation that would ban it.

 

[danny10]

It's not illegal to own it.

 

[testingthis101010]

It's not illegal, but some states are considering legislation that would ban it.

Can you please confirm that it is not illegal right now? I am currently in NY state. Is it OK to order it to my place, as I also don't want it to cause any trouble to me (I live with roommates)? I am very worried right now and I would appreciate your honest answer. Thank you!

 

[opheliaoveragain]

Can you please confirm that it is not illegal right now? I am currently in NY state. Is it OK to order it to my place, as I also don't want it to cause any trouble to me (I live with roommates)? I am very worried right now and I would appreciate your honest answer. Thank you!

open to being corrected but I think only cali has passed anything around sn as it stands right now.

 

[Eudaimonic]

Can you please confirm that it is not illegal right now? I am currently in NY state. Is it OK to order it to my place, as I also don't want it to cause any trouble to me (I live with roommates)? I am very worried right now and I would appreciate your honest answer. Thank you!

NY State Senate Bill 2023-S582

Prohibits the sale of sodium nitrate and sodium nitrite to any person under the age of twenty-one.

www.nysenate.gov

"Section 1 creates a new section of the General Business Law to prohibit the sale of sodium nitrate or sodium nitrite to individuals under the age of 2, requires businesses to check ID for the sale of sodium nitrate or sodium nitrite, and creates a fine of up to $250 for a first offense or $500 for subsequent offenses."

Nowhere in here does it say that it is illegal to buy (or use) it in New York. What is illegal is for businesses to sell it to anyone who is under 21. They are thus required to request proof of legal age.

It appears to be the same for California.

It seems that at least one state (Illinois) is considering legislation that would ostensibly make using it for an attempt illegal.

 

[Tonic_Secrecy]

I ordered from DMC back in December to my address, and it got delivered without any issues. Don't really know about the legality, though.

how long did it stay in sorting centre for you?

 

[Juggernaut1010]

how long did it stay in sorting centre for you?

I remember it taking a while, maybe a week or so.

 

[Tonic_Secrecy]

I remember it taking a while, maybe a week or so.

damn I hope it gets out faster for me I really can't wait much longer I just want to embrace the sweet comfort of death.

 

[testingthis101010]

NY State Senate Bill 2023-S582

Prohibits the sale of sodium nitrate and sodium nitrite to any person under the age of twenty-one.

www.nysenate.gov

"Section 1 creates a new section of the General Business Law to prohibit the sale of sodium nitrate or sodium nitrite to individuals under the age of 2, requires businesses to check ID for the sale of sodium nitrate or sodium nitrite, and creates a fine of up to $250 for a first offense or $500 for subsequent offenses."

Nowhere in here does it say that it is illegal to buy it in New York. What is illegal is for businesses to sell it to anyone who is under 21.

Thank you!

 

[Eudaimonic]

NY State Senate Bill 2023-S582

Prohibits the sale of sodium nitrate and sodium nitrite to any person under the age of twenty-one.

www.nysenate.gov

"Section 1 creates a new section of the General Business Law to prohibit the sale of sodium nitrate or sodium nitrite to individuals under the age of 2, requires businesses to check ID for the sale of sodium nitrate or sodium nitrite, and creates a fine of up to $250 for a first offense or $500 for subsequent offenses."

Nowhere in here does it say that it is illegal to buy (or use) it in New York. What is illegal is for businesses to sell it to anyone who is under 21. They are thus required to request proof of legal age.

It appears to be the same for California.

It seems that at least one state (Illinois) is considering legislation that would ostensibly make using it for an attempt illegal.

Just realized this says "under the age of 2" lol. Idk how they made such a typo

 

[testingthis101010]

damn I hope it gets out faster for me I really can't wait much longer I just want to embrace the sweet comfort of death.

Update us please when you get it

Just realized this says "under the age of 2" lol. Idk how they made such a typo

Yeah just read it hehe!

 

[Tonic_Secrecy]

Update us please when you get it

Yeah just read it hehe!

btw is that the last step and then it finally goes out for delivery or are there more?

 

[testingthis101010]

btw is that the last step and then it finally goes out for delivery or are there more?

you should quote or reply to juggernaut!

 

[Tonic_Secrecy]

I remember it taking a while, maybe a week or so.

btw is that the last step and then it finally goes out for delivery or are there more?

you should quote or reply to juggernaut!

lowkey didn't even realize I sent it to the wrong person ty

 

[MercenariesofMidgar]

NY State Senate Bill 2023-S582

Prohibits the sale of sodium nitrate and sodium nitrite to any person under the age of twenty-one.

www.nysenate.gov

"Section 1 creates a new section of the General Business Law to prohibit the sale of sodium nitrate or sodium nitrite to individuals under the age of 2, requires businesses to check ID for the sale of sodium nitrate or sodium nitrite, and creates a fine of up to $250 for a first offense or $500 for subsequent offenses."

Nowhere in here does it say that it is illegal to buy (or use) it in New York. What is illegal is for businesses to sell it to anyone who is under 21. They are thus required to request proof of legal age.

It appears to be the same for California.

It seems that at least one state (Illinois) is considering legislation that would ostensibly make using it for an attempt illegal.

For California it's a bit different.


"On or after July 1, 2024, it is unlawful for a person, retailer, or online marketplace to sell sodium nitrite to a person under 18 years of age."

"It is unlawful for a person, retailer, or online marketplace to sell sodium nitrite in concentrations greater than 10 percent to a person 18 years of age or older."

California AB1109 | 2023-2024 | Regular Session

Bill Text (2023-10-08) Product sales: sodium nitrite. [Chaptered by Secretary of State - Chapter 462, Statutes of 2023.]

legiscan.com

So it looks like it's still illegal to sell but nothing about possession from what I can see

 

[maniac116]

To be sure, SN is legal in the US!
You shouldn't have any problems.
You're doing nothing against the law.

 

[testingthis101010]

For California it's a bit different.


"On or after July 1, 2024, it is unlawful for a person, retailer, or online marketplace to sell sodium nitrite to a person under 18 years of age."

"It is unlawful for a person, retailer, or online marketplace to sell sodium nitrite in concentrations greater than 10 percent to a person 18 years of age or older."

California AB1109 | 2023-2024 | Regular Session

Bill Text (2023-10-08) Product sales: sodium nitrite. [Chaptered by Secretary of State - Chapter 462, Statutes of 2023.]

legiscan.com

So it looks like it's still illegal to sell but nothing about possession from what I can see

"(g) Seventeen-year-old Tyler Muhleman from the City of San Jose tragically took his own life on May 25, 2021, after easily purchasing cheap and highly pure sodium nitrite from an online marketplace that delivered the deadly product to his parent's home. Muhleman was preparing to graduate from high school and excelled in academics. He loved playing the drums in his school's marching band. He also competed in a roller hockey league in the City of San Jose. The County of Santa Clara Medical Examiner-Coroner's Office confirmed his death was caused by ingesting a lethal dose of the chemical." and this:
(f) Poison control centers throughout the country have reported a 253-percent increase in self-poisoning with nitrites and a 166-percent increase in fatalities in 2021 compared to 2018.