throwaway123

throwaway123

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And it calms me. Knowing that I will never be disturbed again,never feel any pain. I won't even exist to feel anything. That makes me happy and I am looking forward to my death. It used to scare me but now I am at a point where I would do anything to escape life and its endless horrors. And on what am I missing out anyways? We all die. Death is inevitable. I've lost friends and I miss them. I can't bear the pain any longer. I'm trapped and desperate to escape,even if it means death. I have come to terms with my ending. It really isn't that scary once you realize that death is absolutely inevitable.
 
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typx

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The great nothing.
 
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Santiago

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No. You believe there is no afterlife (just like me).

Knowledge is not the same as belief.

None of us know.
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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If you ever experienced astral projection and your consciousness outside of your physical body then you would believe otherwise.
 
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killmepls

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I wish thee was nothing that is more comforting than the unknown
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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Astral projection is so comforting that it makes death exciting. It's true what mystics have said for thousands of years. When we die our spirit passes to the astral plane. From there on...who knows. I believe in quantum theory and reincarnation, and that once we die we wake up in our beds in a parallel universe, over and over each time we die, as different life scenarios play out.... and then ultimately after the life scenarios are played out, we reincarnate as a totally different person. Just my beliefs. Quantum theory is fascinating though, and it totally makes sense. But the astral plane is very real. Your consciousness continues existing outside of your physical body in a dream-like state. The astral world is mostly a creation of your own individual consciousness. I can't wait to get there.
 
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Tiburcio

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No. You believe there is no afterlife (just like me).

Knowledge is not the same as belief.

None of us know.
This kind or comments are which pushes me back in the last moment, the fear of the unknown, of the no-nothingless. :'(
 
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John Smith

John Smith

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I hate to burst your bubble but the evidence says otherwise. I used to think the same thing as you but I have done enough research on the subject to come to a different conclusion. First: the mind isn't the body. This is evident if you read enough near death experience stories. Try nderf.org for a huge collection of them. Next: people do reincarnate as humans again. The number of people that do is unknown as most people forget everything that comes before this life as well as the first few years of this life of course. But, if you look into reincarnation cases where information that a child gives about their previous incarnation (people usually only remember past lives when they are very young) has been confirmed, you will see that there is a very strong likelihood that the only good explanation is reincarnation. In fact the more verifiable facts a person gives about life before life the more likely they are to also remember life between lives and sometimes have verifiable memories while in the in between state as well such as what people did or said during their funeral or other facts that can be checked out. The best researchers in the field with the most amount of verified cases all around the world are Dr. Ian Stevenson and Jim Tucker. Look into it.
 
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QueenEtna

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Jul 29, 2018
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i wish there was nothing
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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I hate to burst your bubble but the evidence says otherwise. I used to think the same thing as you but I have done enough research on the subject to come to a different conclusion. First: the mind isn't the body. This is evident if you read enough near death experience stories. Try nderf.org for a huge collection of them. Next: people do reincarnate as humans again. The number of people that do is unknown as most people forget everything that comes before this life as well as the first few years of this life of course. But, if you look into reincarnation cases where information that a child gives about their previous incarnation (people usually only remember past lives when they are very young) has been confirmed, you will see that there is a very strong likelihood that the only good explanation is reincarnation. In fact the more verifiable facts a person gives about life before life the more likely they are to also remember life between lives and sometimes have verifiable memories while in the in between state as well such as what people did or said during their funeral or other facts that can be checked out. The best researchers in the field with the most amount of verified cases all around the world are Dr. Ian Stevenson and Jim Tucker. Look into it.
This.
 
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Comatose11

Mage
Jul 26, 2018
572
And it calms me. Knowing that I will never be disturbed again,never feel any pain. I won't even exist to feel anything. That makes me happy and I am looking forward to my death. It used to scare me but now I am at a point where I would do anything to escape life and its endless horrors. And on what am I missing out anyways? We all die. Death is inevitable. I've lost friends and I miss them. I can't bear the pain any longer. I'm trapped and desperate to escape,even if it means death. I have come to terms with my ending. It really isn't that scary once you realize that death is absolutely inevitable.

I never saw how anyone would find reincarnation or an afterlife comforting. I think eternal nothingness is the best option there is.

Also don't listen to anyone saying NDEs are proof of an afterlife. Not everyone has them - some people report remembering shortly before cardiac arrest and then waking up in the hospital. Some people have what's described on NDEs without actually almost dying. They could just be hallucinations.
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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I never saw how anyone would find reincarnation or an afterlife comforting. I think eternal nothingness is the best option there is.

Also don't listen to anyone saying NDEs are proof of an afterlife. Not everyone has them - some people report remembering shortly before cardiac arrest and then waking up in the hospital. Some people have what's described on NDEs without actually almost dying. They could just be hallucinations.
People have clinically died in hospitals and then been revived, and they've all reported floating above their body in the corner of the room, and they could even recall things the doctors were saying WHILE they were clinically dead. Things that they otherwise could not have possibly had any way of knowing.
 
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Comatose11

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Jul 26, 2018
572
People have clinically died in hospitals and then been revived, and they've all reported floating above their body in the corner of the room, and they could even recall things the doctors were saying WHILE they were clinically dead. Things that they otherwise could not have possibly had any way of knowing.

They aren't brain dead so yeah. People have also had out of body experiences while NOT clinically dead. Believe what you want. You're entitled to them. But I firmly believe there is no afterlife and nothing will be able to convince me otherwise unless I die and there is one. While alive, I'll NEVER believe in one. Trying to convince me to is a waste of time.
 
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Midnight

Midnight

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Jun 30, 2018
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They aren't brain dead so yeah. People have also had out of body experiences while NOT clinically dead. Believe what you want. You're entitled to them. But I firmly believe there is no afterlife and nothing will be able to convince me otherwise unless I die and there is one. While alive, I'll NEVER believe in one. Trying to convince me to is a waste of time.

Same here. You die that's it. Done deal.
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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They aren't brain dead so yeah. People have also had out of body experiences while NOT clinically dead. Believe what you want. You're entitled to them. But I firmly believe there is no afterlife and nothing will be able to convince me otherwise unless I die and there is one. While alive, I'll NEVER believe in one. Trying to convince me to is a waste of time.
Then how do you explain a clinically dead unconscious person hearing what people are saying around their body?
 
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Comatose11

Mage
Jul 26, 2018
572
Then how do you explain a clinically dead unconscious person hearing what people are saying around their body?

It is not completely understood, but I know that OOBE can be stimulated and some people have reported them while they were NOT clinically dead. Their brains were probably going into overdrive and they could hear everything. But like I said, it's not completely understood. That doesn't mean an afterlife exists. I think the possibility of an afterlife or us having a soul doesn't make any sense. I still stand by my beliefs. Goodbye.
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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It is not completely understood, but I know that OOBE can be stimulated and some people have reported them while they were NOT clinically dead. Their brains were probably going into overdrive and they could hear everything. But like I said, it's not completely understood. That doesn't mean an afterlife exists. I think the possibility of an afterlife or us having a soul doesn't make any sense. I still stand by my beliefs. Goodbye.
Jesus. Not trying to push any beliefs on you. Simply talking to you. Goodbye.
 
John Smith

John Smith

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Aug 6, 2018
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And Im willing to bet u cant admit that u MIGHT be wrong. I am willing to admit it. And if u have evidence that might sway me i will look at it. If u cant look at Dr. Stevenson's work u r just as dogmatic in ur beliefs as any super religous person who believes something because they WANT to believe it.
 
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RainAndSadness

RainAndSadness

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People throw the term "evidence" around very loosely. There is no scientific evidence that suggest an afterlife. If there was, it would be written down in all scientific books. But there is none, which is the reason why you only find that concept in paranormal and pseudo-scientific literature.
 
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Santiago

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People throw the term "evidence" around very loosely. There is no scientific evidence that suggest an afterlife. If there was, it would be written down in all scientific books. But there is none, which is the reason why you only find that concept in paranormal and pseudo-scientific literature.

Exactly. Believe what you want to believe, but stop acting like you know anything. And that counts for both sides of the discussion.
 
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Dani Paradox

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People throw the term "evidence" around very loosely. There is no scientific evidence that suggest an afterlife. If there was, it would be written down in all scientific books. But there is none, which is the reason why you only find that concept in paranormal and pseudo-scientific literature.
Electricity cannot be created, nor destroyed. It can only be redirected. That is a scientific fact.
 
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RainAndSadness

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Electricity cannot be created, nor destroyed. It can only be redirected. That is a scientific fact.

What exactly does that have to do with the topic of an afterlife?

And Im willing to bet u cant admit that u MIGHT be wrong. I am willing to admit it. And if u have evidence that might sway me i will look at it. If u cant look at Dr. Stevenson's work u r just as dogmatic in ur beliefs as any super religous person who believes something because they WANT to believe it.

That's quite the fallacy you're presenting here. How is anyone gonna disprove an afterlife? I'll explain the scientific method quickly for you. If you make a claim, for example "There is an afterlife" or "There is a god", the burden of proof lies on you. Nobody else. I don't have to debunk your hypothesis. Yo can't simply come up with wild speculations and expect others to debunk it if you didn't even present evidence for that claim in the first place.
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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What exactly does that have to do with the topic of an afterlife?.

Because, there's electricity in your brain. When you die, that energy has to go somewhere. It has to be redirected and change form.
 
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RainAndSadness

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Jun 12, 2018
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Actually, it does. The electricity has to go somewhere. You don't just die and that's it. Energy cannot be destroyed.

That doesn't apply to humans.

https://futurism.com/the-physics-of-death/

I quote:

The universe as a whole is closed. However, human bodies (and other ecosystems) are not closed — they're open systems. We exchange energy with our surroundings. We can gain energy (again, through chemical processes), and we can lose it (by expelling waste or emitting heat).

In death, the collection of atoms of which you are composed (a universe within the universe) are repurposed. Those atoms and that energy, which originated during the Big Bang, will always be around. Therefore, your "light," that is, the essence of your energy — not to be confused with your actual consciousness — will continue to echo throughout space until the end of time.

Please inform yourself about that topic. Your claim isn't even controverse. It's simply a false statement.
 
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Doctorj115

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Jul 19, 2018
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Actually, it does. The electricity has to go somewhere. You don't just die and that's it. Energy cannot be destroyed.

Exactly. I don't know why people are so quick to rush to the assumption that nothing exists after this life.
 
RainAndSadness

RainAndSadness

Administrator
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Exactly. I don't know why people are so quick to rush to the assumption that nothing exists after this life.

And again, that's a false statement and already debunked by actual science. Not pseudo-science.
 
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CRM

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Actually, it does. The electricity has to go somewhere. You don't just die and that's it. Energy cannot be destroyed.
Energy is not the same as consciousness, though.
 
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