Jumping megathread

[jake3d]

I've been watching the shooting ones from Brazil and Mexico. Brutal.

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

I've been watching the shooting ones from Brazil and Mexico. Brutal.

Did you see the Jumping ones? The man who jumped from the top of a tower crane. He just dived! Rest in peace.

 

[Lush_nova]

some guy has survived a fall from a bridge, most people who jump from here have died. bodies found later, could this guy have survived purely because be was found in time?
bridge jump survivior

 

[pillsandstep2]

hi, can anyone advice if it is better to jump front facing or back facing the ground?

 

[Ruffian]

https://www.orovillemr.com/2019/02/18/golden-gate-bridge-suicide-barrier-starting-to-take-shape/

I have numerous posts elsewhere that I wish I had the nerve to take the money from a settlement I should get soon, drive to GGB, and be one of the last jumpers before this horrifying net is complete. It's 20 feet from the jump ledge, which should do a nice job of crippling someone. Hopefully it would just make for 2 jumps, you could roll off that net maybe? You can watch a movie on YouTube about people who jumped called The Bridge. It shows real time jumps. Not a lot, and a lot of it is the family's left behind mourning. But that net makes me angry beyond belief. The cost is so much; those funds could be used to start programs that could actually help people long before they consider jumping. I don't know if in the end I could work up the balls necessary. I had a cousin who jumped from a bridge pretty much out of the blue. The other thing to consider is the effect on the person who will end up identifying you.

Is anyone going to answer that question about how to ensure you fall on your head/neck? It's looking like I may actually have to go out this way, by jumping, and i really do not fancy an agonizing death.

In the Resources thread you can look up the book Suicide and Attempted Suicide by Geo Stone. There's a lot of good research in there, with a chapter on nearly every method. The book must be out of print, because you can only buy it from 2nd hand sellers on Amazon for $200+. I imagine because it is so graphic and specific. It's a little outdated, but it will give you at least some idea. One of the most fascinating reads in general, not just on suicide. I am so grateful to whoever uploaded it. The time it must have taken and because it is just such a great resource.

 

[Hobbes]

I'm still on the fence between jumping and charcoal. I suppose this is such an appealing option because I want to truly feel something again before I leave, whether that is peace or terror, and the lack of setup or planning. I find it very difficult to read things and research for extended periods because I'm not very bright.

I would like to jump over water (personal preference, not worth going into) and possibly during the winter (again, personal and not worth deviating conversation.) I don't think the winter part would change anything because flowing water under a bridge would not freeze, but I would still like to throw that out there in case anybody has any glaring flaws to bring up.

For water landings, lostallhope states that 250 feet will have a fatality rate of 95%-98%. The original poster in the other Jumping Megathread states 650 feet for 99%-100% fatality rate. This is unsourced, but it is still understandable to be safe than sorry. It is very difficult to find suitable jumping points in my area at that height however, and @Othermind makes a good point about diminishing returns in regards to height in the other megathread:

For most people, anything above that is incredibly hard if not impossible to reach, and over 50 meters you get massive diminishing returns; doubling the heights only gets you a 3% increased chance of dying.
Of course the higher the better/safer, but I'd rather someone jumped from 40m and have a 95% chance of dying than they attempted a drug overdose or partial hanging only to end up in a psych ward or permanently injured.
What I'm trying to say is that I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment, but I think people here get way too overzealous when they treat a very reliable method like it had the same odds of slashing your wrists with a letter opener.

As for distance, my options are limited to somewhere to which I could rent a car and drive. This means Canada or northern USA (I own a passport and have nothing barring me from visiting the US.) A shorter drive distance would still give me time to back out and return to life as normal if I do not wish to go through with it. Perhaps just thinking of such a thing is indicative of failure to attempt, but I've known myself for long enough to realize I am an emotionally fragile and weak person who crumbles under the slightest bit of pressure.

With all these factors, I'm considering the following:

• Rainbow Bridge (Niagara Falls) : Allows foot traffic. Only 200 feet, but there are articles about deaths in this location. One in particular notes a drunken man falling to his death, which is of interest because others have noted that alcohol loosens your body in such a way that it can take more damage without being fatal.
• Niagara Falls itself : Allows foot traffic, obviously. However, you would have to a hop a barrier in front of a large group of people (possibly less during winter months.) It is only 167 feet, but has a reputation for being just fine for suicides. The rocks probably help a great deal with that. So it has the downside of traumatizing others, which is pretty not cool, but I could argue that watching a person slip into the abyss of mist is less damaging than witnessing an actual impact. Again, not super cool.
• Lewiston–Queenston Bridge : Does not allow foot traffic. You would have to abandon a car and just go for it, which removes any element of taking in a view, but may be better for SI? It is 370 feet which is a much, much better height. Hesitating for just a minute is a great way to get surrounded by patrolling officers though.
• New River Gorge Bridge : Does not allow foot traffic. The first option that requires me to drive a longer distance into northern USA. Nearly 900 feet high, which is the highest option so far, but still the same downsides as Lewiston-Queenston. A longer response from authorities though, as this one is not a international border bridge.

I apologize for the wall of text, but I'm just trying to gather all my thoughts in one place. Is anybody else familiar with some places like this around the area I specified?

 

[Jessica5]

I think a jumping megathread is a great idea.

Whilst a few survivors claimed to instantly regret jumping (notably Kevin Hines, who also states that he didn't really want to die and was hoping someone would 'save' him by asking if he was ok) reports and studies DO NOT show this. The only people that can really comment on how it feels are those that have jumped and survived...I've copied some of the best bits for you.

"reports for 169 suicides from the Golden Gate Bridge found that only eight persons (5 percent) "died from drowning and not as a result of impact trauma." They also stated that, "These individuals appeared to have impacted in the foot to head orientation." Also, only two of the six GGB survivors interviewed had semi-serious medical injuries.

Interestingly, the study advises that GGB jump survivors report:

"The experience of jumping for all six of the survivors was described as tranquil and peaceful and not frightening or terrifying as one might suspect".

"One survivor said,"It was a good feeling - no screaming. It was the most pleasant feeling I've ever had. I saw the horizon and the blue sky and I thought how beautiful it was." Another survivor said that at first he had a peaceful feeling and then he felt like he went into a "dream" . . . "I never felt I was dying." One subject stated that he experienced "a sense of relief" and "peace" on the way down.

"One subject said he "felt like a bird flying - total relief... I was looking forward to what was to come. Even now I'm symbolically still looking for the better world - I'm still in that place between the bridge and the water. "Another reported that his descent was "like eternity - beautiful - I enjoyed the sensation." As well as "One subject who described the first half of his descent as "peaceful, enjoyable and fun," before he realised he would hit the concrete piling" and moved around it.

Furthermore, a San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge jump survivor describes how she felt "a tremendous sense of peace."

This info all comes from this study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1129714/pdf/westjmed00296-0031.pdf

Jumping is really scary and I am not advocating for it or anything like that! There are very serious and painful consequences with this method too... But far from feeling instant regret, some jump survivors often report feelings of inner peace during and rebirth and spiritual transcendence if they survive.

Despite the risks, it can be a very lethal method, that's cheap, quick, more legal and more easily accessed when compared to others, if researched and undertaken correctly.

Kevin Hines jumped because he thought he might be possessed by the devil. While I'm sure he regretted his jump when he was in the air, he's not a typical person who does a jumping attempt.

Anyway, I always get suspicious when people cite any statistics about suicide survivors regretting their attempts. They might regret their attempts because they ended up failing, getting involuntarily committed, suffered possibly lifelong injuries and (if they were in the US) got a huge medical bill. It's not like they'd regret the attempt because they've changed their mind and now think death is bad after all.

 

[Reaper44]

I plan to jump from a bridge 150 feet tall. Even though it isn't very tall, the bridge has been known for suicides. Over 150 people have died there with no known survivors. They installed emergency fencing along the alcoves, which people usually jump from, but I should be able to climb the fence when no one is around. Getting over the railing isn't a problem either. The only problem is that the city put a park for little kids under part of the bridge. I can jump from a part of the bridge that isn't over the park, but it's still likely people in the park will notice.

 

[toomuchgrief]

I'm 5 feet tall. How tall are those guard rail of bridges actually? I think it won't be shorter than my height right?
For sure I will need to climb my leg over and throw myself down. I just wish there no one around to stop me. I just want to reunited with my son on the other side, and I'm sure there no other side, just darkness like when you put under anesthesia but at least I'm grief and pain free. Everyday I just want to die and be with my son, mom love you very very much.
How tall are these bridges barrier?

 

[woodstacker]

Would it be better to hit head first or belly flop? I feel like belly flop would cause the most damage and ensure death. Considering jumping tonight.

Traumatic brain injury (with regards to near instantaneous death) vs. belly flop, or dispersing your impact over a greater surface area, which could mean a few milliseconds of pain & suffering. You could survive as a quadriplegic, which is my worst nightmare.

 

[Pointless]

Is a painless way or when you reach the floor will hurt? How much will the body be disfigured?

 

[vulpo]

Is a painless way or when you reach the floor will hurt? How much will the body be disfigured?

If it heigh enough it should be instantaneously, no time for pain. Or less than a second.