Tintypographer
I am done as of 4-21-2023. Somewhere I am no more
- Apr 29, 2020
- 470
I look at fix the 26 every once in a while as a curiosity and today I thought,"wow, the crazy finally had someone who is wanting to do something about suicide and they have a project they hope will reduce it". I thought,maybe someone will finally address the lack of access to mental health care that's affordable or discuss treatment resistant severe depression affectuing millions of people. But no, this crew of well meaning anger-philes has come up with "toolkit apps that will decrease the results of search engines and add banner ads that promote calling suicide prevention lines".
How many people here have found suicide prevention lines to be effective? How many people here would not absolutely love for someone to say, "we hear you, we are working with Congress people to actively try and solve the severe crisis of affordable and easy to access mental health and pushing to get treatment beyond cognitive "just recognize when you are feeling triggers" help.
I absolutely love the "come talk to me, I will listen" platitudes. What people don't say is "even at 275.00 usd per hour we will help you find fourteen weeks of two hours per week of therapy plus medication to help you truly address treatment resistant depression."
Or, "we have convinced our legislators to ensure that all psychiatrists and therapist must take Medicare and insurance and that the insurance companies have to cover the cost of this very expensive treatment without a complex phone tree of begging and hoping"
Or, "you know what, we do understand your situation may never improve at all, you could be so mentally and emotionally stuck that even though you appear to have everything to live for, even the very act of being awake has you completely wanting to die and that will never go away no matter how many family photos and proms and birthdays and happy times exist, you will forever be in just as much pain as someone with crippling arthritis and that not understanding this casuses just as much pain and makes the suicidal feelings worse".
For a percentage of the population that is not insignificant including the family members of the grieving parents wanting to "introduce legislation to keep people from accessing harmful content", what we desperately need is mainstream understanding that treatment resistant depression is very very difficult to treat and very very expensive and it is a big animal.
This is the same as saying "heart disease kills people, let's Introduce legislation that prevents people from finding ways to access fast food" but ignore the need for doctors to prescribe statins, cholesterol lowering drugs and take blood pressure. Then get violently angry at mcdonalds.
What I need to stop looking at places like this for solace is for the world community to begin to understand that severe treatment resistant depression is going to take heavy duty research, new drugs, new methods of therapy and that the awareness and costs will be substantial for the population of people who live with it.treatment will be way more than 6 visits with a B-grade therapist with a certificate in family counseling and could take the rest of the natural life of someone with the problem.
I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who has made very few bad choices in life. I have a family, healthy kids, very successful job, no divorce, no major debt and I have a health plan. I can even afford out of pocket treatment from therapists. But after 10 plus years of severe suicidal ideation, I'm completely convinced that the medicine, drugs, therapy and mechanisms for treating this are a severe failure for the population facing it. And a place like this gives you access to people who understand how you feel.
Stop having bold ideas to save people by "limiting access to bad ideas". This is not a way to address a problem
If you want to help; make people aware that treatment resistant depression with severe suicidal ideation is a common and non addressed issue facing many people and it needs to be properly evaluated by the healthcare industry.
How many people here have found suicide prevention lines to be effective? How many people here would not absolutely love for someone to say, "we hear you, we are working with Congress people to actively try and solve the severe crisis of affordable and easy to access mental health and pushing to get treatment beyond cognitive "just recognize when you are feeling triggers" help.
I absolutely love the "come talk to me, I will listen" platitudes. What people don't say is "even at 275.00 usd per hour we will help you find fourteen weeks of two hours per week of therapy plus medication to help you truly address treatment resistant depression."
Or, "we have convinced our legislators to ensure that all psychiatrists and therapist must take Medicare and insurance and that the insurance companies have to cover the cost of this very expensive treatment without a complex phone tree of begging and hoping"
Or, "you know what, we do understand your situation may never improve at all, you could be so mentally and emotionally stuck that even though you appear to have everything to live for, even the very act of being awake has you completely wanting to die and that will never go away no matter how many family photos and proms and birthdays and happy times exist, you will forever be in just as much pain as someone with crippling arthritis and that not understanding this casuses just as much pain and makes the suicidal feelings worse".
For a percentage of the population that is not insignificant including the family members of the grieving parents wanting to "introduce legislation to keep people from accessing harmful content", what we desperately need is mainstream understanding that treatment resistant depression is very very difficult to treat and very very expensive and it is a big animal.
This is the same as saying "heart disease kills people, let's Introduce legislation that prevents people from finding ways to access fast food" but ignore the need for doctors to prescribe statins, cholesterol lowering drugs and take blood pressure. Then get violently angry at mcdonalds.
What I need to stop looking at places like this for solace is for the world community to begin to understand that severe treatment resistant depression is going to take heavy duty research, new drugs, new methods of therapy and that the awareness and costs will be substantial for the population of people who live with it.treatment will be way more than 6 visits with a B-grade therapist with a certificate in family counseling and could take the rest of the natural life of someone with the problem.
I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who has made very few bad choices in life. I have a family, healthy kids, very successful job, no divorce, no major debt and I have a health plan. I can even afford out of pocket treatment from therapists. But after 10 plus years of severe suicidal ideation, I'm completely convinced that the medicine, drugs, therapy and mechanisms for treating this are a severe failure for the population facing it. And a place like this gives you access to people who understand how you feel.
Stop having bold ideas to save people by "limiting access to bad ideas". This is not a way to address a problem
If you want to help; make people aware that treatment resistant depression with severe suicidal ideation is a common and non addressed issue facing many people and it needs to be properly evaluated by the healthcare industry.
