Discussion It seems that funeral cry got banned, does anybody know a reason?

[derpyderpins]

Well, somebody is going to have to post 50 times a day about how everything and everyone is not only bad but downright horrific and torturous. Seems like a poetic end to my arc to take up that burden myself.

In all seriousness I hope she wasn't banned for her regular content. She represented an ideology that I personally found to be misguided but which was legitimate and a part of the culture here.

 

[sserafim]

She changed her title to "Tortured by evil humans"…

 

[qw3rty259]

Wait, she got banned? When? I'm kind of sad, tbh. While I don't necessarily agree with some of her posts I can't help but hold a bit of a soft spot for her.

kinda feels like the site lost its symbol due to her omnipresence here

 

[Tesha]

I disagreed with most of views. If she's no longer a member, I won't miss her posts.

However, I also hope her absence is a sign that she's found peace.

 

[Pluto]

A few comments.

1) We do not have any reliable information at this time so we only have speculation.
2) If she has been banned, I will believe it when I see it.
3) She is a real person whose earlier posts were open and relatable, but her mental health clearly degraded over the years.
4) I've helped someone reverse a ban before so it can happen, but is not very common.

 

[halleyscomet]

I believe she was banned. Yesterday I was looking at posts and there was one by FC that was very out of character. It was deleted 2 minutes later and her account was gone. I sent a link to a friend as I was concerned about what was going on, the link preserved some of what was in the post. However I don't want to undermine the mods by posting that here.

The gist of it was, that she didn't want her posts to be deleted, that this is the only place she has and she's tired of suffering and she's all alone. It had very poor grammar and spelling, like it was being written in a rush.

I really hope she will be okay. Despite some of her controversial views, she relied heavily on this site and it is sad to see her go.

 

[derpyderpins]

Actually, I had a thought that if that is a real human being then they've got hooked on this forum and accidentally created themselves a purpose to live in a form of being the top poster here.

My thought is similar, but I don't think she cared about numbers. She needed comfort, and her thoughts on here became repetitive as she dialed in on a mindset that gave her that comfort for whatever reason. It went from habit to obsession, because it was better than any alternative she had. We tell ourselves whatever we need to, and although she hates this part of humanity, she does it too, just in a different way. Normal people latch onto the idea that life is sacred, and in rebellion she latched into the idea that it was the opposite.

 

[FireFox]

I liked Funeral Cry she was always so kind to me. The way writes about humanity it is clear that in her life she experienced a lot of hurt by people, something happened to make her that way.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Actually, I had a thought that if that is a real human being then they've got hooked on this forum and accidentally created themselves a purpose to live in a form of being the top poster here. So maybe it's even better that she lost it, if she wanted to die so badly, she basically got another reason to ctb. But ultimately I think it's bad, because she put a lot of hours and efforts into her comments here. I know how it feels to lost something significant. So, imo, It would be better if she made that decision by herself and not because of the rules violation. I can only hope that it wasn't an accidental rules violation and that she posted something that violated the rules purposely, knowing that it can cause her account to be banned

I read so many of her posts and I don't think that she cares about being the top poster here. It seems like people think that FC cares about attention but I've read a lot of her posts and it seems like she doesn't actually care or even want attention. The reason why she posts a lot here is because venting in this place makes it so that time passes for her. She doesn't enjoy anything in life so the best she can do is pass away the time by venting. I don't think that she cares about her posts either as they're merely there just to pass time

 

[jar-baby]

Really hope she's okay. The repetitive nature of her threads and her mass-posting tendencies seemed (I think) to be functions of her autism, and her criticism of the forum/pro-lifers/parents clearly stemmed from her own pain. I'm not defending her actions exactly—just saying they're explicable. I found it easy to ignore her posts for the most part. I'm also inclined to point out that she did often respond to others' posts with well-wishes (sure, they'd be appended with a blanket statement about how life is pain, but I do think she generally meant those expressions of sympathy and empathy). It's apparent she's been in a lot of pain and this forum helped, to some degree, in alleviating that (and I've been grateful the mods have allowed it). I hope we get an answer.

Spoiler

genuinely hope she's okay. I don't care for the content of her posts and I'm not as active as her but even I find it hard to stay away from here because of the comfort this site brings me. I can't help but think a month is a really long time in this case (assuming she even gets to come back). From a pragmatic pov I think if it were just a few days instead she'd return more willing to cooperate, because it's clear that being on this site brings her a lot of comfort. You don't know what you have till it's gone, et cetera. But naturally I understand that there are rules here and obviously it's the prerogative of the mods in the end.

 

[Worndown]

Self-ban gets the line through the name. Reported death does too. None of that.
She deactivated chats some time ago.
Possibly on "double secret probation" or something like that.
If she is real and not AI, I hope she handles this well. There were a few fairly good posts when replying to the posts of others. I think there was a person behind this. A person that could have benefited from what can be found here.

 

[Leiden]

People saying Funeralcry might have been a Bot or an AI is just ridiculous IMO!

 

[Angst Filled Fuck Up]

I know autists like to repeat themselves sometimes so I stopped giving her shit on the off chance she's real. I don't condemn them for the same things as I would a neurotypical person because they're on a lower level as far as people skills. But it's always possible that they are not a real person. I mean I've tried Kindroid and that's more organic-sounding.

I must say I don't really go for the nihilistic stuff for the most part so she was never my thing, but I know it's a popular mindset on here. If she's real I hope she's okay. I might not dig someone's posting style but I certainly don't wish anything bad on anyone.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

People saying Funeralcry might have been a Bot or an AI is just ridiculous IMO!

Exactly. I thought that people were calling her a bot sarcastically but it seems like they genuinely think that FC is a bot which wildly amuses me. I think that most people don't even look and analyse her posts properly

 

[Rocinante]

She received a hard ban. She can sign in but all she'll see is a response from mods with something along the lines of "Banned for the following reasons:"
How many notifs and DMs you have are viewable, as in the number, but you can't access.

 

[PetrichorBirth]

Yeah, I don't think that it was AI neither. Also, some time ago I tried to dig deep in her post history to figure out whether she's real, and there seemed to be some consistent backstory... But of course I didn't put enough time into this to be sure, just saying that now I'm also inclined to think that's she's a real person

And also that post about recovery section i mentioned was really adding to this, as i wouldn't expect AI to go against the site it was created for, lol

I also tried to find out whether she's real. I discovered that shortly after joining ss, she used to be active on a forum for tinnitus sufferers, where she posted less frequently than she did here. Seems like she just found "her place" here. But in recent times this website probably became something that she didn't like, or maybe she was overwhelmed by the people that don't like her...

 

[sserafim]

She received a hard ban. She can sign in but all she'll see is a response from mods with something along the lines of "Banned for the following reasons:"
How many notifs and DMs you have are viewable, as in the number, but you can't access.

Just like how I got banned on Neets.net for being female. Fuck that forum

 

[Rocinante]

Just like how I got banned on Neets.net for being female. Fuck that forum

They cry about not being able to bag girls but ban them on sight. Incels are a strange bunch that's for sure

 

[sserafim]

They cry about not being able to bag girls but ban them on sight. Incels are a strange bunch that's for sure

It's all recuckadur's fault. He snitched on me. Anyways, Neets.net is for losers

 

[Myforevercharlie]

why not ask the mods if they banned her?
@Myforevercharlie @Dot , did you ban the funeral cry account?

She got an auto ban

That happens to all users who reach the 100% warning point.

 

[noname223]

So here is my take. Noone asked for it here you get it.

It seems like she is banned. I could imagine she got like one million warnings barely took any of it serious and rather became aggressive towards the forum itself instead of trying to be self-aware and compliant. I could imagine this ban hurts her deeply because the forum seemed to be like her sole purpose in life. I think she is now realizing that words on the internet can have real life consequences. But consequences for her own life in this case. I could imagine she tries to get her account back and promises stuff. I could imagine that might happen. But I don't have any knowledge of prior conversations but for me she seems to be pretty criticism resistant and the mods probably gave her a lot last warnings. (which she ignored)

I think her content was damaging. Stuff like "There's is no need to prolong the suffering." If you read between the lines in her posts it seems like she would have wanted that every single individual in this forum sees suicide as the perfect solution to any problem. And then she is aggressive on it calls everyone who disagrees with her delusional or insane. I posted a long analysis of her behavior some months ago. I think she was toxic for this forum. For her as an individual it must be hard to cope with it. And that's sad for her. But I think it was the right choice if it is true.

And by the way I strongly doubt she is an AI. Within the 4 years the technology progressed and she not really. I never took it for a second serious this claim. It seems so unrealistic.

Edit: I have writen this post before it was confirmed.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I agreed with her a lot at first but as time went on her posts became repetitive and clearly attention-seeking. Regardless, it was still fun to engage in the chaos her threads would sometimes lead to and I also respected her not wanting to react or reply to nearly anyone. I only ever disagreed with her when she tried to bring the forum itself down. It seemed very ungrateful and hypocritical. She unfortunately seems to have Vented too close to the sun this time which I knew couldn't be tolerated forever.

I don't believe she was ever a bot or AI because those are usually sourced by OpenAI which has a hard ban on suicidal tendencies of any kind. It seems more like she just has a script and knew how to stick to it.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I agreed with her a lot at first but as time went on her posts became repetitive and clearly attention-seeking. Regardless, it was still fun to engage in the chaos her threads would sometimes lead to and I also respected her not wanting to react or reply to nearly anyone. I only ever disagreed with her when she tried to bring the forum itself down. It seemed very ungrateful and hypocritical. She unfortunately seems to have Vented too close to the sun this time which I knew couldn't be tolerated forever.

I don't believe she was ever a bot or AI because those are usually sourced by OpenAI which has a hard ban on suicidal tendencies of any kind. It seems more like she just has a script and knew how to stick to it.

The ai 's I have had debates with seem to be pro life .

FC was not an ai .

But I did download an uncensored ai to my laptop and maybe I could modify it more to be able to discuss these issues without fear of banning me or people ghosting me criticizing me . I also might code my own gpt ai.

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[Chinaski]

She got an auto ban

That happens to all users who reach the 100% warning point.

This actually raises concern, because the "auto ban" suggests these decisions are automated and out of the hands of staff when in reality each warning is given by staff depending on how a violation is perceived to have taken place. It would be more honest to say "we banned x user" than to pass the responsibility for such a decision over to some mythical automated system.

This is not a criticism of the decision fwiw, my views on FC, and the leeway she has been kindly afforded to the detriment of the wider forum for over two years, are probably well-known at this point and she is not here to exercise a right to reply so l won't retread it but, speaking more generally, anyone who assumes a broad online community should be moulded exclusively in their own image, routinely demands that content is tailored to their very narrow and specific requirements, very regularly casts broad disdain towards anyone who expresses even polite disagreement with their rigid worldview and appeals for then to be treated as an ideological enemy who must be shunned, and is allowed to do this over a period of *years*, will ultimately do damage to that community.

 

[KillingPain267]

She basically said that anyone who decides to have a kid is disgusting and a criminal. I don't remember what she said word for word, but there are a lot of users with children who are rightfully unamused.

But she is right, though. But we can still have compassion for disgusting and criminal people. I find those who ban euthanasia disgusting and criminals violating our human rights. Nevertheless, I would never hurt them or refuse to forgive them. I was myself once a prolifer opposed to legalizing euthanasia. I also hate that my parents made me without thinking, yet I forgive them.

 

[Esokabat]

She changed her title to "Tortured by evil humans"…

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"Tortured by Evil Humans"? Seriously? I have no sympathy for people that want the entire human race to die, but they will stick around, she will never CTB, she just wants everyone else to die. And of course the victimhood, tortured by evil humanity, her misery is not her fault, everyone else is to blame for her life, she is a victim of humanity, life, being born. Sure, she can think whatever she wants but the amount of posts she makes equals evangelising, it is passively aggressive, she is trying to convince everyone of her death religion. I have no sympathy of victimhood. I am autistic too, own it! It is you, not everyone else. You are not a victim. "Tortured by Evil Humans" my as*. I let her be, but it saddens me see how she evangelizes her beliefs and spread death religion and supreme victimhood.

I disagreed with most of views. If she's no longer a member, I won't miss her posts.

However, I also hope her absence is a sign that she's found peace.

Agree.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

FC and I butted heads more than once. I never agreed with her antinatalist views. I confronted her once about something she had said by asking her that if she had a container of N, if she would give it to a 10 year old, or something like that, and she said she would. Her views are extreme, IMO, but she's entitled to them just as we are our own. Frankly, I don't find her posts offensive, as I find them annoying and boring. I know very little of her situation, as she hasn't shared much in open forum, at least not that I've read. There's NO WAY IN HELL she is/was an AI bot. She's a real person, living in hellish circumstances, seemingly with no means of escape. Probably, because of her condition(s), she really was never able to empathize with others, only able to view the world through her own limited circumstances. There's no crime in that. It's fine to challenge her on her viewpoints, but not from a place of hate and despise. I liked her. I like her. I feel very sad for her with everything she must go through. She doesn't deserve meaness, contempt, or harassment. She deserves support, empathy, and love, as do we all. I hope she's not gone forever. In her circumstances I truly feel she really needs this place to vent, in fact, desperately so.

 

[Esokabat]

FC and I butted heads more than once. I never agreed with her antinatalist views. I confronted her once about something she had said by asking her that if she had a container of N, if she would give it to a 10 year old, or something like that, and she said she would. Her views are extreme, IMO, but she's entitled to them just as we are our own. Frankly, I don't find her posts offensive, as I find them annoying and boring. I know very little of her situation, as she hasn't shared much in open forum, at least not that I've read. There's NO WAY IN HELL she is/was an AI bot. She's a real person, living in hellish circumstances, seemingly with no means of escape. Probably, because of her condition(s), she really was never able to empathize with others, only able to view the world through her own limited circumstances. There's no crime in that. It's fine to challenge her on her viewpoints, but not from a place of hate and despise. I liked her. I like her. I feel very sad for her with everything she must go through. She doesn't deserve meaness, contempt, or harassment. She deserves support, empathy, and love, as do we all. I hope she's not gone forever. In her circumstances I truly feel she really needs this place to vent, in fact, desperately so.

I agree that everyone has right to their own opinion. What they don't have right to is trying to evangelizing their opinion by an incredible amount of agressive, repetitive posts. She is not AI. She is a young woman who is severely mentally ill, and I don't think that anyone severely mentally ill should be in the position of influence. (Also true for politics).
I also don't think we can hide behind our mental conditions. I am autistic too but I don't think this should be used as a "get out of jail" card, in the game of Supreme Victimhood.

 

[everythingoes]

Completely agree with Esokabat.

Also, I just hope she's okay, as far as okay goes for someone in her situation. This website was the only place where she could vent, she's said it many times. Can't imagine what she must feel right now.

 

[Lady Laudanum]

But she is right, though. But we can still have compassion for disgusting and criminal people. I find those who ban euthanasia disgusting and criminals violating our human rights. Nevertheless, I would never hurt them or refuse to forgive them. I was myself once a prolifer opposed to legalizing euthanasia. I also hate that my parents made me without thinking, yet I forgive them.

That's where you and her are different. She doesn't think that we can have compassion for people she considers to be "disgusting and criminal" and she sees everything as black and white, absolutely good or absolutely bad.