Help Is this full suspension setup good? Anything to look out for?

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I will be hanging from my dorm's closet door. I drew a diagram with text, but I'll describe it here in case you can't read my handwriting.

Our closet doors have a "towel bar" that's straight on the inside of the door. I will be tying a bowline knot on the "towel bar." The other side has a doorknob that doesn't turn; you just pull on it to open it, so it will be locked. I will have the noose on the outside with an ottoman (I spelled it wrong on the image for some reason), which I will be kicking off of. I haven't gotten the rope yet, but I was planning to use a 12 mm climbing rope, but if I can't, I was thinking about using a long chiffon shawl. I am worried that I won't be able to close the door with the rope in between.

Edit: btw, I am very short, and the doors are verrry high up, so the ground won't be a problem. I also will be putting soap around whatever I tie and/or put a plastic back around my neck

 

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I wouldn't trust a closet rod for FS. Partial yes. FS, nooooo.

 

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I wouldn't trust a closet rod for FS. Partial yes. FS, nooooo.

oh I thought I remember another member saying that it didn't matter at much because it would be jammed in between the door. Do you think using a dumbbell on the other side would be better?

 

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oh I thought I remember another member saying that it didn't matter at much because it would be jammed in between the door. Do you think using a dumbbell on the other side would be better?

No. For the clothing rod, I just don't think it's strong enough to take full weight. I certainly wouldn't trust "jamming" between the door and door frame. FS needs something strong. Dumbbells? Idk about that. Honestly, not even sure door hinge screws would handle 100+ pounds of force applied to them, particularly the top hinge screws. I think doors, closet clothing rods, the like are best suited for partial. Maybe you can get away with it if you're especially small. Seems it would be difficult to even make a noose to hang over a door that would allow your feet not to touch the ground when tightened.

 

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No. For the clothing rod, I just don't think it's strong enough to take full weight. I certainly wouldn't trust "jamming" between the door and door frame. FS needs something strong. Dumbbells? Idk about that. Honestly, not even sure door hinge screws would handle 100+ pounds of force applied to them, particularly the top hinge screws. I think doors, closet clothing rods, the like are best suited for partial. Maybe you can get away with it if you're especially small. Seems it would be difficult to even make a noose to hang over a door that would allow your feet not to touch the ground when tightened.

hmm I'm hearing conflicting answers about the dumbbell right now because in a post that Evelyn lane made she says that a 2kg dumbbell is enough to be an anchor over a closet door. the height of the door is not a problem since it is very high off the ground.

 

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hmm I'm hearing conflicting answers about the dumbbell right now because in a post that Evelyn lane made she says that a 2kg dumbbell is enough to be an anchor over a closet door. the height of the door is not a problem since it is very high off the ground.

I'd like to know how a 2kg (4.4lb) dumbbell is going to act as a counterweight to a person's weight. Or, is it that the dumbbell only acts as a "wedge" to keep the rope from slipping through the space between the top of the door and door frame? Hard to envision a door tall enough that is off the ground. Here in US, most doors are 6ft height, or so, and are floor level. Even for a "short" person of 5ft, that still means the noose needs to be way up at the top of the door, and that the diameter of the neck will still "lower" the person by an equivalent amount. Doesn't leave much room between floor and person's feet, and everything has to be about perfect to pull it off.

 

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I will be hanging from my dorm's closet door. I drew a diagram with text, but I'll describe it here in case you can't read my handwriting.

Our closet doors have a "towel bar" that's straight on the inside of the door. I will be tying a bowline knot on the "towel bar." The other side has a doorknob that doesn't turn; you just pull on it to open it, so it will be locked. I will have the noose on the outside with an ottoman (I spelled it wrong on the image for some reason), which I will be kicking off of. I haven't gotten the rope yet, but I was planning to use a 12 mm climbing rope, but if I can't, I was thinking about using a long chiffon shawl. I am worried that I won't be able to close the door with the rope in between.

Edit: btw, I am very short, and the doors are verrry high up, so the ground won't be a problem. I also will be putting soap around whatever I tie and/or put a plastic back around my neck

hmm I'm hearing conflicting answers about the dumbbell right now because in a post that Evelyn lane made she says that a 2kg dumbbell is enough to be an anchor over a closet door. the height of the door is not a problem since it is very high off the ground.

Whether the door is strong enough would be something to look out for. It depends on the door. Make sure to test it by tying your setup and pulling on it with your full body weight.

Regarding the hinges, I think they're only a problem if the door is open, because the hinges can be ripped out of the frame. In my opinion, if the door is closed, most of the weight is supported by the doorframe and the hinges are unlikely to break. But again, it depends on the door, and you should test it beforehand.

The door must be lockable and impossible to open. If I understand you correctly, this won't be a problem.

If you're worried that a rope won't fit through the gap, getting a cargo strap is also an option. It's thinner but just as strong as a good rope.

Dumbbell. The dumbbell-type setup is fine too. However, it works not because it has weight, but because it's an object that doesn't fit through the gap. It works the same way as a door anchor for resistance bands (see attached image). You can also use other objects, like a rolled-up towel, for example.

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Towel bar. If you want to use the towel bar, and it isn't strong enough, you can wrap the rope or strap around the door a few times (see attached image). This will create friction, and there will be less force on the towel bar. You can also use this technique with a dumbbell or other objects, and you can even position the object at the bottom instead of the top.

 

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I'd like to know how a 2kg (4.4lb) dumbbell is going to act as a counterweight to a person's weight. Or, is it that the dumbbell only acts as a "wedge" to keep the rope from slipping through the space between the top of the door and door frame? Hard to envision a door tall enough that is off the ground. Here in US, most doors are 6ft height, or so, and are floor level. Even for a "short" person of 5ft, that still means the noose needs to be way up at the top of the door, and that the diameter of the neck will still "lower" the person by an equivalent amount. Doesn't leave much room between floor and person's feet, and everything has to be about perfect to pull it off.

my door is 8 ft tall and I am 5 ft. I will be adding 2 knots in addition to tying it to the bar and locking it to prevent any slipping. I tested my door and bar and they seem to hold my bodyweight for a minute. I might add a second rope as backup. what do you think of this? I don't have any other place to do full suspension other than outside which is way too risky.

Whether the door is strong enough would be something to look out for. It depends on the door. Make sure to test it by tying your setup and pulling on it with your full body weight.

Regarding the hinges, I think they're only a problem if the door is open, because the hinges can be ripped out of the frame. In my opinion, if the door is closed, most of the weight is supported by the doorframe and the hinges are unlikely to break. But again, it depends on the door, and you should test it beforehand.

The door must be lockable and impossible to open. If I understand you correctly, this won't be a problem.

If you're worried that a rope won't fit through the gap, getting a cargo strap is also an option. It's thinner but just as strong as a good rope.

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Dumbbell. The dumbbell-type setup is fine too. However, it works not because it has weight, but because it's an object that doesn't fit through the gap. It works the same way as a door anchor for resistance bands (see attached image). You can also use other objects, like a rolled-up towel, for example.

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Towel bar. If you want to use the towel bar, and it isn't strong enough, you can wrap the rope or strap around the door a few times (see attached image). This will create friction, and there will be less force on the towel bar. You can also use this technique with a dumbbell or other objects, and you can even position the object at the bottom instead of the top.

great! thank you. I was thinking about adding a couple knots at the top of the door as well as on the towel bar.