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Is there a chance my phone will be searched when I CTB?
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Got my SN, but now I am paranoid that after I die my devices will be searched even though I haven't committed a crime I just don't want them to see my notes and messages and stuff yk lol? It isn't illegal to CTB where I live but is there a chance they search it anyways?
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It doesn't need to be a crime, it needs to be an unnatural death, which a suicide is. It isn't guaranteed that they will but it's a possibility. They may search other personal belongings if they feel it is necessary. They may also question family, friends, coworkers.
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I'm guessing that my phone, computer, belongings etc will be searched so I have started the process of removing my digital footprint. Resetted my computer this morning, removed/deleted online accounts. People are nosy.
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I'm guessing that my phone, computer, belongings etc will be searched so I have started the process of removing my digital footprint. Resetted my computer this morning, removed/deleted online accounts. People are nosy.
Of course do you want to lock your phone and PC, but if you deleted everything already that won't matter. If you want to have some fun smash them with a hammer!
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I assume it depends what country you're in, in the UK all suicides are investigated as unnatural deaths and part of that can mean taking devices and going through them. I'd suggest minimising your digital footprint as much as possible, delete accounts that you don't want looked at, remove messages and notes and photos that you don't want seen.
Keep in mind that they make you jump through a lot of hoops to access a deceased person's data, and that could be rather expensive if they hire an attorney to handle the paperwork. So you might not wan't to worry about it too much unless you have some extraordinarily sensitive information to protect.
Got my SN, but now I am paranoid that after I die my devices will be searched even though I haven't committed a crime I just don't want them to see my notes and messages and stuff yk lol? It isn't illegal to CTB where I live but is there a chance they search it anyways?
Got my SN, but now I am paranoid that after I die my devices will be searched even though I haven't committed a crime I just don't want them to see my notes and messages and stuff yk lol? It isn't illegal to CTB where I live but is there a chance they search it anyways?
The data on a factory reset device can still be recovered. The way deleting files on a computer works is that it removes the reference to the file in the computers filesystem. The file is effectively hidden from the computer but specialized software can be used to recover those hidden files. The only way those deleted files actually go away for good is if it is overwritten with new data. If you *really* want your data to be gone for good learn about how to zero out a hard drive. Basically what this does is it fills up the entire hard drive with zeros, ensuring all data is deleted and overwritten.
On phones, all your data is encrypted by default on both iOS and Android so a factory reset makes that data virtually inaccessible unless somebody somehow knows the password for your phone...in theory anyways. Phones are much more locked down than laptop or desktop computers so you don't have to worry as much.
The data on a factory reset device can still be recovered. The way deleting files on a computer works is that it removes the reference to the file in the computers filesystem. The file is effectively hidden from the computer but specialized software can be used to recover those hidden files. The only way those deleted files actually go away for good is if it is overwritten with new data. If you *really* want your data to be gone for good learn about how to zero out a hard drive. Basically what this does is it fills up the entire hard drive with zeros, ensuring all data is deleted and overwritten.
On phones, all your data is encrypted by default on both iOS and Android so a factory reset makes that data virtually inaccessible unless somebody somehow knows the password for your phone...in theory anyways. Phones are much more locked down than laptop or desktop computers so you don't have to worry as much.
Since there's a significant chance one might survive any attempts to CTB, I have encrypted my external drive so that I can have access to it in case I fail to CTB and remain healthy enough to try again.
Also, I have nothing compromising on my phone (which I'll hard reset), and have done all CTB related research through my computer (which I'll wipe and encrypt before CTB).
In my particular case, I'm assuming authorities and/or loved ones will eventually have access to my personal data; and, most probably, they'll get disappointed in me when they see that dark side of me. However, no matter how hard you try not to, you'll always disappoint someone (including yourself). So, in my case, it doesn't really matter.
A century can feel like a long time, yet time passes fast enough so that the things you didn't want others to know will become as relevant as a 19th centuty book nobody found interesting.
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Pretty much yes. The only thing to consider though is that the data on your phone is most secure when you have reboot your phone and haven't unlocked it yet. This is because on both iOS and Android, when your phone is rebooted, all data is fully encrypted. Once you unlock the phone it will start decrypting data which can in theory be accessed. But yeah just destroying your phone should do the trick too lol. If you're extra paranoid make sure to break the storage chip :)
The data on a factory reset device can still be recovered. The way deleting files on a computer works is that it removes the reference to the file in the computers filesystem. The file is effectively hidden from the computer but specialized software can be
Pretty much yes. The only thing to consider though is that the data on your phone is most secure when you have reboot your phone and haven't unlocked it yet. This is because on both iOS and Android, when your phone is rebooted, all data is fully encrypted. Once you unlock the phone it will start decrypting data which can in theory be accessed. But yeah just destroying your phone should do the trick too lol. If you're extra paranoid make sure to break the storage chip :)
Thanks for the info! So basically doing a complete reset encrypts, but doesn't actually wipe all the data?
Another idea for anyone who's concerned about this would be to lock up all devices somewhere no one is likely to look / find. Have dummy devices (e.g. a new cheap phone) so no one will go looking for the real ones. This is also low tech for those not savvy and you can keep your stuff if you survive.
yes but your data is already encrypted even before the reset. So really if you don't want anybody to access your data, just rebooting your phone and not unlocking it again will work assuming nobody knows your password.
Sorry, I'm not the best at explaining technical concepts like this lol
Got my SN, but now I am paranoid that after I die my devices will be searched even though I haven't committed a crime I just don't want them to see my notes and messages and stuff yk lol? It isn't illegal to CTB where I live but is there a chance they search it anyways?
There is a chance that your devices will be searched. If not by the authorities to investigate any motive for your ctb, then by family or friends to find memories of you, personal information, what-have-you. My best advice to you to protect your privacy is to delete everything from all social media/networking platforms, delete the accounts, wipe your devices and destroy the hardware. If you have a physical SIM card in your phone, break it. I'm unsure of how to completely wipe an eSIM but you can always factory reset your phone. Computers, take them apart and destroy the motherboard. So on and so forth.
I hope you find your peace. Much love to you.
yes but your data is already encrypted even before the reset. So really if you don't want anybody to access your data, just rebooting your phone and not unlocking it again will work assuming nobody knows your password.
Sorry, I'm not the best at explaining technical concepts like this lol
The reason your phone forces you to wait when you mess up your password too many times is to prevent brute force attacks. Not only that but the more failed password attempts made, the longer you would have to wait to try again so brute forcing is pretty much impossible.
I'm guessing that my phone, computer, belongings etc will be searched so I have started the process of removing my digital footprint. Resetted my computer this morning, removed/deleted online accounts. People are nosy.
Trust me when I say this. You can delete everything but they will find it whether deleted or not. They will somehow manage to crack into your device and they'll see that you deleted something.
This goes for deleted messages (they can contact the company to restore them) your search history (they can see what you've written and that you've deleted it)
Your account and etc
Depending on the safety measures you have set up, it's not trivial to gain access to your local data, especially your phone. Nowadays, the majority of sensity personal information isn't likely to be stored locally anyways, rather iot's going to be tied to your online accounts. If the cause of death is clearly ruled to be a suicide and authorities have no reason to be suspicious of foul play, I don't think too many resources will be expended rummaging through your personal stuff.
Got my SN, but now I am paranoid that after I die my devices will be searched even though I haven't committed a crime I just don't want them to see my notes and messages and stuff yk lol? It isn't illegal to CTB where I live but is there a chance they search it anyways?
It'd be best to wipe as much data as you wish, but maybe consider giving the police a lengthy note to make their job easier (And so they have less reason to shift through your belongings) but I don't know if that's effective, just a thought I've had
In my particular case, I'm assuming authorities and/or loved ones will eventually have access to my personal data; and, most probably, they'll get disappointed in me when they see that dark side of me. However, no matter how hard you try not to, you'll always disappoint someone (including yourself). So, in my case, it doesn't really matter.
What I'm fearful of people finding is the fact that my boyfriend and I have had several conversations on my eventual ctb. He is supportive of me having a choice and will not stop me or alert authorities. I don't know if this can incriminate him and I do not want him to go to jail. I also don't want him to be ostracized by my family for not stepping in.
What I'm fearful of people finding is the fact that my boyfriend and I have had several conversations on my eventual ctb. He is supportive of me having a choice and will not stop me or alert authorities. I don't know if this can incriminate him and I do not want him to go to jail. I also don't want him to be ostracized by my family for not stepping in.
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