Discussion Is suicide justified?

[departing]

I question whether life is justified.

 

[Swoods]

Suicide is a personal decision/choice and as such you do not have to justify your decision to anyone.

 

[orangepotato]

Yes. Always. In all circumstances. Suicide is a right that cannot be taken away from you. The only case where I'd argue that suicide is selfish is if you have kids, but I still think that even in that circumstance you still retain the right to kill yourself. it sucks for them, but arrange for them to be cared for once you're gone.

 

[Marktheghost]

Yes. Everyone has the right to choose whether to live or die.

 

[liverpoolfan]

Yes. Also water is wet, bears shit in the woods and the Pope is Catholic.
Any other questions I can help with?

 

[muffin222]

Yes. Nobody chose to be born. It was imposed upon us.

 

[revolucion]

Yes. Also water is wet, bears shit in the woods and the Pope is Catholic.
Any other questions I can help with?

Yes, do you think the premier league title is yours this time?

 

[liverpoolfan]

Only a few weeks ago some wag said "Only an act of God can stop Liverpool from winning the league"...
Hasn't aged well.

 

[Creekalalia]

In my opinion, it can't be a revenge, a statement... or whatever based on emotion. It must be based on reason. If you are thinking about CTB due only to emotion, you should seek profesional help. And after that, if you still want to CTB, well, then, and only then, it's up to you.

I agree. I've thought about it so many times in the past with revenge in my heart. Now,I seek it only for peace and escape for myself. I wish only peace for others and don't wish to harm anyone by my action. I've distanced myself from almost everyone, but those that are still close, I have told that if I do this, please know I have no desire to hurt them - but I hurt so much that it seems a logical step, and those I've told have been completely understanding and supportive.

 

[revolucion]

Only a few weeks ago some wag said "Only an act of God can stop Liverpool from winning the league"...
Hasn't aged well.

Yeah it was/ is yours this time.

 

[Pan]

May I use religious lecture to anwser your question? If any of you is uncomfortable about christianity, lemme beforehand apologize for this to come:

When our Lord was nailed at the cross, after three days of suffering, Him, knowing that death was inevitable and all that was happening now was him extending his suffering, begged for the release of death. And a roman soldier, by the name of Longinus, in an act of mercy, stabbed Jesus with his spear, killing him. This man, who had just commited the sin of murder, and of out Messiah no less, was not doomed to Eternal Damnation for his actions... he was risen to become a Saint.

An example of how, when one knows that the only thing that lies ahead of you is suffering until the release of death... cutting it short is completely justifiable. Even noble, as that who does such merciful act for you may become a Saint.

He is YOUR lord, not mine.

 

[revolucion]

May I use religious lecture to anwser your question? If any of you is uncomfortable about christianity, lemme beforehand apologize for this to come:

When our Lord was nailed at the cross, after three days of suffering, Him, knowing that death was inevitable and all that was happening now was him extending his suffering, begged for the release of death. And a roman soldier, by the name of Longinus, in an act of mercy, stabbed Jesus with his spear, killing him. This man, who had just commited the sin of murder, and of out Messiah no less, was not doomed to Eternal Damnation for his actions... he was risen to become a Saint.

An example of how, when one knows that the only thing that lies ahead of you is suffering until the release of death... cutting it short is completely justifiable. Even noble, as that who does such merciful act for you may become a Saint.

This looks promising

 

[the box is empty]

"It is not seen as insane when a fighter, under an attack that will inevitable lead to his death, chooses to take his own life first. In fact, this act has been encouraged for centuries, and is accepted even now as an honorable reason to do the deed. How is it any different when you are under attack by your own mind?" - Emilie Autumn

 

[ritsulover]

I think it is. I didn't choose to be here, I should be able to choose when I want to leave. I know it'll hurt those close to me, but if they loved me they'd understand the pain i'm in and the decision I made. Especially if they go through the same pain I do

 

[Partial-Elf]

I think there are two questions here: Can you justify it to the outside world? And can you justify it in your own mind?

To the first question: you'll never be able to convince the outside world that suicide is justified, reasonable, your right, etc.

To the second question: I think of this as reaching a state of relative peacefulness and sureness with the decision to ctb. I don't think that happens often-those who ctb generally have a great deal of ambivalence and guilt. Fortunately, you don't need to justify suicide to yourself, you just do it.

 

[Starseedchip]

It is literally your life, you have complete ownership and control over your own body. Suicide does not need to be justified to anybody.