Is onlyfans ethically good or bad?

[noname223]

I just listened to an interesting article. There are lonely men that end up as addicts. It ruins lives. But it is probably the most cleanest and safest sex work that exists (in mainstream).
Consumers might end up texting with men from the Philippines who make fun of them. (without knowing) - counterargument probably only bigger creators rely on them. On the other hand creators are forced to more extreme content in order to satisfy their fans. Naive women ruin their life by posting videos hoping for winning the lottery.

What do you think?

 

[PinkgrassBuffer]

I don't think there's anything wrong with having an onlyfans. There's nothing implicitly wrong with viewing porn. I see the porn industry itself as pretty exploitative though. Sex work wouldn't have a reason to exist in a better society.

 

[T-Heart]

Ethically bad, the only good thing OnlyFans has done was to teach us that all is hopeless.

Making money by showing your body is not a respectable thing to do, people work more than 7 hours a week, while women only have to create an OnlyFans to get more money than 50% of the population, without doing anything.

 

[ma0]

Personally I don't see the point in Onlyfans since, like, there's so much more of that shit for free?

If I had to judge though, the women that run the accounts are just trying to make a living. Hard to get angry at that.

Although I will admit there are absolutely some who exploit the people paying more than others. If it's just a temporary side business that's fine I guess, but if it's genuinely something you do full time, and you squeeze sometimes hundreds of thousands out of desperate men then you can start to see the problem.

 

[bankai]

don't the women have to consciously choose to be a part of OF? if so how is it exploitation? if anything the simps are the ones getting exploited.

 

[PinkgrassBuffer]

Ethically bad, the only good thing OnlyFans has done was to teach us that all is hopeless.

Making money by showing your body is not a respectable thing to do, people work more than 7 hours a week, while women only have to create an OnlyFans to get more money than 50% of the population, without doing anything.

I don't think "respectable" means anything. Onlyfans can be a taxing job and the vast majority of people who use it would make more at a minimum wage job.

don't the women have to consciously choose to be a part of OF? if so how is it exploitation? if anything the simps are the ones getting exploited.

Exploitation can occur in "consensual" relationships. A business owner paying their employees a small fraction of the value they produce is obviously exploitative, even though the employees "choose" to work there. It's a little difficult to argue how much of a choice there is between having an exploitative job and being unemployed, considering you need money to live.

 

[bankai]

. A business owner paying their employees a small fraction of the value they produce is obviously exploitative, even though the employees "choose" to work there.

But then it is no different from any other job. All jobs are exploitative since you are paid much less than yours employers make.

 

[T-Heart]

I don't think "respectable" means anything. Onlyfans can be a taxing job and the vast majority of people who use it would make more at a minimum wage job.

What is respectable is ethical, they should not earn money like that, there are too many explanations that the same women who have OnlyFans hide.

Taxing job? really?

Anyone who bathes daily will know that removing the 4 strips of clothing women wear is not that difficult.

 

[CeaseExist]

What is respectable is ethical, they should not earn money like that, there are too many explanations that the same women who have OnlyFans hide.

Taxing job? really?

Anyone who bathes daily will know that removing the 4 strips of clothing women wear is not that difficult.

I think it more means about the PR and managing side of things, like if you want to stay afloat and really make money from it you have to stay fresh and all, you can't show the same piece of yourself more than twice or else you will be losing traction. I guess only those blessed with extremely objectively attractive bodies have it easy, the rest has to work either way.

There is more women broken by it than media let's you know, it would be bad for business if onlyfans women that got unlucky started getting into the mainstream, scaring off potential profit for them.

Also, on the main post, I do think it's all neutral at it's core buuuuuuut - only at it's core, the principle of it.

Now, how it operates, what kind of algorithms and agenda people steering it put in place? That's whole another story, the exploitation is real, and everyone is much, much aware about the devastating effects these kind of platforms have on men, especially since it's Men Loneliness Epidemic right now. Not gonna even dwell on how much the platform started exploiting women.

It's really telling with how fast a content creators based platform, for exclusive fan content went straight into porn with full throttle huh? Money is king after all.

Ethically bad, the only good thing OnlyFans has done was to teach us that all is hopeless.

Making money by showing your body is not a respectable thing to do, people work more than 7 hours a week, while women only have to create an OnlyFans to get more money than 50% of the population, without doing anything.

Attractive women*

 

[T-Heart]

Attractive women*

Don't underestimate the almost non-existent requirements of sexless men.

 

[CeaseExist]

Don't underestimate the almost non-existent requirements of sexless men.

I still can't wrap my head around the idea that it is actually true. It's such a pitiful and sad state of things, where men are really, truly, seeking a normal, real-life like connection on these platforms...

Also, are you a thighs person? Would you pay me 500 bucks for leg pics? I have really nice thighs

 

[Rabscuttle]

The ire should be directed at the system that makes things like onlyfans necessary/viable as a tool to make a lot of money. That said it can be predatory and warp people's perspective of sex/attraction as well as damage people's psyche by forcing them to sell their bodies. .

Capitalism is cooked.

Your brain will be much healthier when you no longer consume any form of sex media.

 

[PinkgrassBuffer]

But then it is no different from any other job. All jobs are exploitative since you are paid much less than yours employers make.

Yes, our society is built from exploitation.

What is respectable is ethical, they should not earn money like that, there are too many explanations that the same women who have OnlyFans hide.

Taxing job? really?

Anyone who bathes daily will know that removing the 4 strips of clothing women wear is not that difficult.

"Respectable" doesn't actually mean anything. I don't think things are morally wrong because they go against popular consensus. Also taking boob pics is a small fraction of the actual time behind managing the accounts.

I still can't wrap my head around the idea that it is actually true. It's such a pitiful and sad state of things, where men are really, truly, seeking a normal, real-life like connection on these platforms...

Also, are you a thighs person? Would you pay me 500 bucks for leg pics? I have really nice thighs

I don't have many liquid assets rn, how's 30 cents and a granola bar?

 

[CeaseExist]

I don't have many liquid assets rn, how's 30 cents and a granola bar?

If you are able to send me that granola bar, that's all you have to do babyyyyyy.

What kind is it? Brand?

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Ethically bad, the only good thing OnlyFans has done was to teach us that all is hopeless.

Making money by showing your body is not a respectable thing to do, people work more than 7 hours a week, while women only have to create an OnlyFans to get more money than 50% of the population, without doing anything.

Every job that you do involves having to sell your body in some capacity. Most people who have OnlyFans also have other jobs but aren't making enough to make ends meet, hence them getting into sex work. I've never done sex work before but I did used to sext men and showing off your body to strangers online is actually quite emotionally draining and can make you feel pretty gross sometimes. It sometimes gets to a point where you try not to think about what you are even doing because it becomes a bit too much psychologically. I can imagine that having to do that as part of your job is probably not enjoyable and must be psychologically draining for some.

At the end of the day, sex work is work. Sex work involves basically putting yourself in physical and/or psychologically vulnerable positions and putting on a performance in exchange for money. That's not even getting into the fact that many sex workers have other jobs or are in school, so they are doing all of this on top of a whole bunch of other shit.

 

[LittleMagician]

I just listened to an interesting article. There are lonely men that end up as addicts. It ruins lives. But it is probably the most cleanest and safest sex work that exists (in mainstream).
Consumers might end up texting with men from the Philippines who make fun of them. (without knowing) - counterargument probably only bigger creators rely on them. On the other hand creators are forced to more extreme content in order to satisfy their fans. Naive women ruin their life by posting videos hoping for winning the lottery.

What do you think?

I think everything in life is unethical, even the act of giving someone else life is unethical (giving birth to children) because they didnt consent to it and will have to face life long journeys of struggle and misfortune, so I honestly couldn't give a fuck about some woman wanting to sell her pussy online

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Ethically bad, the only good thing OnlyFans has done was to teach us that all is hopeless.

Making money by showing your body is not a respectable thing to do, people work more than 7 hours a week, while women only have to create an OnlyFans to get more money than 50% of the population, without doing anything.

There was a study that showed 90% of OF creators make around 100 dollars a month. Not many women are getting rich off it.

 

[Phhi49]

Sex is a good thing. And society talking about addicts and porn to be a bad thing is a sad joke to me.
Medical fact; Wanting sex a lot is part of a healthy mind.
So to be addicted to sex equals Alpha status in my eyes.

I have no interest in onlyfans though.
The internet is a vast source of sex and paying for such has never been interesting to me.

 

[CeaseExist]

Sex is a good thing. And society talking about addicts and porn to be a bad thing is a sad joke to me.
Medical fact; Wanting sex a lot is part of a healthy mind.
So to be addicted to sex equals Alpha status in my eyes.

I have no interest in onlyfans though.
The internet is a vast source of sex and paying for such has never been interesting to me.

Even when it destroys your life? When you don't pay bills on time, or have money for important things like fuel, food, clothes etc. because you sent your last money to some OF model or Twitch streamer? Is that Alpha status in your eyes too?
I would be surprised if you said yes to that, so I will now assume you will say something along the lines of "but that is other thing" or something like that

And I will tell you now, to take care in finishing your thoughts fully - It tends to better communication across internet

 

[EvisceratedJester]

So to be addicted to sex equals Alpha status in my eyes.

(Also, being a sex addict is in no way something that should be looked at as a good thing. Sex addiction can be awful and it's not uncommon for many who suffer from it to develop it, in part, due to past trauma and/or issues with mental illness)

 

[lucyanne]

Anything that empowers a marginalised group at the expense of those who oppress them is fine imo.
Granted I am biased being in a minority myself.

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(Also, being a sex addict is in no way something that should be looked at as a good thing. Sex addiction can be awful and it's not uncommon for many who suffer from it to develop it, in part, due to past trauma and/or issues with mental illness)

As someone who actually is a sex addict let me tell you it's a fucking nightmare, I would get my ass fixed if that would work in a heartbeat.
So thank you for raising a voice for us.

 

[iamanavalanche]

ethically bad. i do not see anything good about creating or viewing pornography. i will not disrespect those who get into sex work (especially if its your only way of survival which is an unfortunate case for many people) but i think it shouldnt exist in the first place

 

[aiyuxhan]

Good for the girls making money. Lol. Supposedly some OF girls have been able to buy houses because of what they earned

 

[CeaseExist]

Ooof, hoody guy got salty pretty fast.

I understand @Phhi49 , not finding any kind of support to your worldview can cause a person to selectively respond only to something they can bash on, instead of addressing the whole discussion :)

Also, are you an incel by any chance? Your arguments seem very close to what they preach (Sex no matter what, Alpha males yada yada) and the whole statement about sex ADDICTION (Definition - People with addiction use substances or engage in behaviors that become compulsive and often continue despite harmful consequences.) is also in line with their beliefs.

Anything that empowers a marginalised group at the expense of those who oppress them is fine imo.
Granted I am biased being in a minority myself.

I'm not really sure if that part is a joke or genuine outlook on life because the only oppression that really happens is billionaire class abusing the fuck out of everyone and sowing discord everywhere - mostly/So basically in this topic, it basically sounds like "Women get more power, at the expense of men WHO OPPRESS THEM" which is another one of those extreme statements with not much substance behind it aside from "because someone said so". We can skip patriarchy talk and all the other obvious things when talking about this, as it is pretty much common knowledge at this point - Do you think that johnny boy, random young adult, thrown into this fucked up world without almost any preparation with how society looks right now, deserves to not find any kind of connection out there and get exploited/broken by greedy platforms? Do you think that random Johnny boy oppresses women?

Again, I'm not really talking about you directly, just voicing some thoughts on the matter, as I don't really think it matters even if you are in the other end of the spectrum of hate lol