Is it too early to take action for the end of society?

[ljyip]

There's no doubt there are many sick, vulnerable people diagnosed with COVID-19. I apologize for bringing this hot topic that 99% of all SS threads are discussing for the past week. Hospitals are overflowing and may not be able to care for waves of new patients. New patients therefore have to suffer without focused medical attention. But can we all agree that such innocent people do not deserve to go through their pain and that a peaceful alternative to the path toward their death? One of the solutions I would like to propose is to ease regulations on assisted-suicide in such emergency situations (This would not even require a physician since they are all too busy and the legal process takes too long).

My point is, is it an appropriate time to promote the legalization of assisted suicide in every country? Since I've had quite pessimistic views for even before the start of the pandemic, I believe that it's important to consider the worst case scenario of the pandemic infecting 100% of humanity without a cure. I do not intend to make the chaos more hysterical and persuade all of you, but rather direct your thoughts towards promoting assisted suicide. If we were all to die, but more probably, if you knew you will die due to COVID-19, how would you want to express your preference of a painless death, despite its prohibition? I want to discuss the possibility of finding a solution to the aforementioned question and introduce it to society with the intent of raising awareness. Should we start a movement to legalize assisted suicide? Or a movement to promote the slight trivialization of death. I may be thinking too over the top or asking for too much unnecessary attention, but I just want to help people get through this pandemic and never suffer through the illnesses of COVID-19, now that the news report that hospitals are overflowing and the chaos within society changes every individual's identity. I am willing to respond to anyone else's thoughts or questions about this post. Thanks for reading.

 

[faust]

There's no doubt there are many sick, vulnerable people diagnosed with COVID-19. I apologize for bringing this hot topic that 99% of all SS threads are discussing for the past week. Hospitals are overflowing and may not be able to care for waves of new patients. New patients therefore have to suffer without focused medical attention. But can we all agree that such innocent people do not deserve to go through their pain and that a peaceful alternative to the path toward their death? One of the solutions I would like to propose is to ease regulations on assisted-suicide in such emergency situations (This would not even require a physician since they are all too busy and the legal process takes too long).

My point is, is it an appropriate time to promote the legalization of assisted suicide in every country? Since I've had quite pessimistic views for even before the start of the pandemic, I believe that it's important to consider the worst case scenario of the pandemic infecting 100% of humanity without a cure. I do not intend to make the chaos more hysterical and persuade all of you, but rather direct your thoughts towards promoting assisted suicide. If we were all to die, but more probably, if you knew you will die due to COVID-19, how would you want to express your preference of a painless death, despite its prohibition? I want to discuss the possibility of finding a solution to the aforementioned question and introduce it to society with the intent of raising awareness. Should we start a movement to legalize assisted suicide? Or a movement to promote the slight trivialization of death. I may be thinking too over the top or asking for too much unnecessary attention, but I just want to help people get through this pandemic and never suffer through the illnesses of COVID-19, now that the news report that hospitals are overflowing and the chaos within society changes every individual's identity. I am willing to respond to anyone else's thoughts or questions about this post. Thanks for reading.

I agree with you. Assisted suicide is definitely a good thing and necessary to be developed.
However, all the applications should be simplified, - it takes now much time before the actual euthanasia.
There is no need in creating a separate movement, because we are not people who will throw petrol bombs in order to get assisted suicide for everybody.
Governments are not concerned about a few percents of people who are mentally ill and who would select a suicide. Suicide means we won't be able to pay for medication anymore, we won't work, we won't pay taxes. They are not interested in that. They want our labor and our time in order to grow the economy or fill their pockets. Honestly, if I had an option now to die in the clinic, I would refrain from such an idea. It takes too long to wait.

 

[autumnal]

Legal assisted suicide is almost always geared towards long-term conditions, multiple procedural safeguards and extensive paperwork and documentation. None of these things are suited to the relatively fast-acting situation of an unfolding disease pandemic.

Probably the closest you're going to get is people having a medical advanced directive that requests against aggressive treatment of life-threatening conditions, under which COVID-19 may fall if they experience it severely enough.

 

[Darkhaven]

Might not be wise to bring the discussion right now, during the pandemic.
To the public opinion's eyes it may seem as if
we are trying to dispose of sick people, and that will only give strength to the pro life movements and might even make some people who would otherwise be favourable to a change in the legislation, turn their noses now, given the circumstances.
I'm really satisfied that my countrie's parliament approved euthanhasia just before all of this covid19 thing (it was already in china though). The law won't be ready for some time now. It was planned ti be finished by the summer, but now with all the political instutions working only to the extent of what's necessary, it will take a long time to have the law and even then it's not sure it will be pass through the President.

 

[ljyip]

Switzerland currently does allow assisted suicide without that much legal documentation for preparation. I think that a video showing the subject's full consent with his/her assisted suicide will suffice for the executioner to be safe. Medical intervention is not necessarily required. Anyways, I originally wanted as many countries as possible to adopt Switzerland's legalization of assisted suicide in my post, not a bureaucratic process. Maybe the Switzerland way could be more feasible for everyone?

 

[TAW122]

I think the posters here are correct that timing is of upmost importance because if we push forth our movement and advocacy too soon or at the worst times, it could backfire and be seen as something that is horrible (even if it's not). We certainly don't want to lose our current base and the people who are at least more level-headed and open to the idea of assisted suicide for the terminally ill. It is likely that we would have to start from there before anything could expand and/or gain traction for other criterion such as euthanasia for people who are chronically in pain, who are suffering chronic mental illness with no relief, etc.

Any legislation or advocacy would likely have to wait until this pandemic is over or at least much more contained than it is currently now.