Selfishness and suicide is often seen from different sides. Sometimes the person who commits suicide is called selfish. Because he leaves his family, friends, animals (?) and in general loved ones behind. Often a train suicide is called selfish because it can be traumatizing for the train driver.
I have read in this forum that they feel that their parents are selfish when we openly talk about suicide. They absolutely don't want that their children die before them. I think this is only a natural impulse.
This leads to another question. Is true love selfish? Can't we let someone go even if we know it is better for them. I think in fact there is often a discrepancy about this evaluation. Many people don't talk openly about their suicidality with parents/loved ones due to several reasons. Almost no parent will make a compromise concerning this topic. For example my dad told me if I try to apply for assisted suicide he will stop giving me money. I am very sure I could never persuade him. In this case I see it as selfish. Due to the fact that he would never make a compromise. There are situations when a suicide can be a rational decision.
Another reason why people don't open up about suicidality is the stigma or the fear of being locked up in the psych ward. I read it very often on here. I think it is not always necessary at least this is my experience. But I respect that there are also other stories which I read.
Many people on this forum have committed suicide lately. Am I allowed to have this thought I would have preferred you would have stayed here? On the other side who am I? I barely know another person on here. I avoid deep friendships. But if I had one it would be a huge struggle for me. Suicide can be so horrible. For the person who commits suicide and the loved ones. I try to speak openly with friends and family about my wish. I try to prepare them. Though my parents seem to be treatment resistant (ironically like my suicidality). My friends are also scared to be traumatized about my suicide even despite the fact I have warned them. One of my friends suffers depression from himself and cannot cope when I openly talk about my suicide. I avoid it since he told me that.
I think it always depends to the ethics of an individual person to make this judgement. Many people who commit suicide feel guilty to leave loved ones behind. This is a consideration everyone has to do for him or herself. I try a lot to avoid committing suicide. But personally I think my freedom to end my pain is a higher good than eventually traumatize someone. This can be seen as selfish. I even met a dude in clinic who was a complete wreck because his gf committed suicide 20 years ago. This dude was really mentally fucked. However there might have been other reasons which I don't know.
I really hate it when people tried to guilt-trip me for wanting to commit suicide. These people are often really ignorant. Moreover these people would probably don't give a fuck when I killed myself.
What are your thoughts on it?
I have read in this forum that they feel that their parents are selfish when we openly talk about suicide. They absolutely don't want that their children die before them. I think this is only a natural impulse.
This leads to another question. Is true love selfish? Can't we let someone go even if we know it is better for them. I think in fact there is often a discrepancy about this evaluation. Many people don't talk openly about their suicidality with parents/loved ones due to several reasons. Almost no parent will make a compromise concerning this topic. For example my dad told me if I try to apply for assisted suicide he will stop giving me money. I am very sure I could never persuade him. In this case I see it as selfish. Due to the fact that he would never make a compromise. There are situations when a suicide can be a rational decision.
Another reason why people don't open up about suicidality is the stigma or the fear of being locked up in the psych ward. I read it very often on here. I think it is not always necessary at least this is my experience. But I respect that there are also other stories which I read.
Many people on this forum have committed suicide lately. Am I allowed to have this thought I would have preferred you would have stayed here? On the other side who am I? I barely know another person on here. I avoid deep friendships. But if I had one it would be a huge struggle for me. Suicide can be so horrible. For the person who commits suicide and the loved ones. I try to speak openly with friends and family about my wish. I try to prepare them. Though my parents seem to be treatment resistant (ironically like my suicidality). My friends are also scared to be traumatized about my suicide even despite the fact I have warned them. One of my friends suffers depression from himself and cannot cope when I openly talk about my suicide. I avoid it since he told me that.
I think it always depends to the ethics of an individual person to make this judgement. Many people who commit suicide feel guilty to leave loved ones behind. This is a consideration everyone has to do for him or herself. I try a lot to avoid committing suicide. But personally I think my freedom to end my pain is a higher good than eventually traumatize someone. This can be seen as selfish. I even met a dude in clinic who was a complete wreck because his gf committed suicide 20 years ago. This dude was really mentally fucked. However there might have been other reasons which I don't know.
I really hate it when people tried to guilt-trip me for wanting to commit suicide. These people are often really ignorant. Moreover these people would probably don't give a fuck when I killed myself.
What are your thoughts on it?
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