socrates

socrates

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I go back and fourth a on weather or not I want to CTB a lot. And I recently had the thought of what would happen if I regretted my decision right after drinking the SN. Thankfully I don't think I would have much time to worry, but it is a thought I have been pondering.
Have you ever felt this way before?
 
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MissNietzsche

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Yes, part of the reason I haven't ctb'ed yet is because I'm worried I will freak out right after I've ingested it and dial 911. Or tell my family to dial 911..

I'm trying to wait so that I can get my hands on nitrogen..because at least with nitrogen, I won't run that risk.
 
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NeCkDeEp

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I don't think that you will be awake for long after SN as it seems like that you get really quick sleepy, probably not much time to worry about things.
The only thing I'm terrified of is that I will start thinking that it will take way too long for someone to find my pets despite the plan of leaving lots of food and water for them in the meantime
 
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I don't think that you will be awake for long after SN as it seems like that you get really quick sleepy, probably not much time to worry about things.
The only thing I'm terrified of is that I will start thinking that it will take way too long for someone to find my pets despite the plan of leaving lots of food and water for them in the meantime
Maybe you could give them away to those shelters, who take care of dogs while their owners are on vacation? Or maybe you could send a letter or package shortly before taking SN to family members or else, the package would arrive 3 days after your death.
 
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jgm63

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I guess this may be of (very) limited help, but.....

My opinion would be :

> don't drink it until you're sure you've made up your mind !
> wait for as long as you need to ensure that is the case
> once you've drunk it, don't allow your mind the luxury of thinking about whether you've done the right thing
> you can't trust your mind, so you should be its master, not its slave


( I suppose if you drank it and regretted it then you could call emergency services, and tell them what you consumed, but there might still be a risk of not being saved.... So better to follow the points above..... )

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I don't think that you will be awake for long after SN as it seems like that you get really quick sleepy, probably not much time to worry about things.
The only thing I'm terrified of is that I will start thinking that it will take way too long for someone to find my pets despite the plan of leaving lots of food and water for them in the meantime
Regarding your pets, can you used delayed emails to various people, to ensure they are taken care of ?
Who do you think would look after them ?
 
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Dubs

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I'll be disconnecting and disabling the phones/computers in my proximity to prevent that from happening.
 
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p.s. good thing about the emails is you can cancel them if you decide not to go through with it
 
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Meretlein

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I don't think I will feel regret after drinking my N but I know I will feel a deep sadness that my life has come to this.

I worry more about chickening out after opening the bottle. Liquid N doesn't last long.
 
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MeltingHeart

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I go back and fourth a on weather or not I want to CTB a lot. And I recently had the thought of what would happen if I regretted my decision right after drinking the SN. Thankfully I don't think I would have much time to worry, but it is a thought I have been pondering.
Have you ever felt this way before?
If you are already contemplating the idea of regret (plus still going back & forth on the idea generally)...I would say you need a little more time to reflect and consider this-once only, no turning back action, perhaps you have some reasons in your life (your heart?) or your mind to think that you would regret it- some element of hope perhaps, even if it is just an iota, a mere glimmer of possibilities other than this? Perhaps you can take some small comfort and reassurance (as I have noticed other members seen to dol) that you do have access to a method, a 'fall-back' plan that you can always have for the future, just because you have it-dont feel that you need to fast-track any decision making, it will be there...for now you have time and you have life...you can just take each moment as it comes.
 
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LegaliseIt!

LegaliseIt!

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Note : As always, please note that I strongly encourage you to seek help with whatever is troubling you. Things may seem hard, but with the right help they can improve. There are many sources of help if you look and reach out. Please seek assistance in any and every way possible. You alone must decide upon your actions and take full responsibility for them, and you should always favour seeking help and keeping out of harm's way.
End Quote.
Other Things :
View the Recovery thread.
Recovery Help is available on the Resources Thread.
Make a written Safety Plan.
 
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Fragile

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this is why i'll make sure that when i take the cocktail, SN, amitriptyline or N, i will be absolutely ready and already made peace with my decision, taking them impulsively is basically asking your survival instinct to kick in and that will make you regret it instantly.

also if i go with SN i'll take a shit ton of benzos before in order to pass out and be calm when i finally take it, some of the NS symptoms like tachycardia, headaches and blue fingers are something that i fear will make my survival instinct go nuts so i don't want to be awake to feel any of that.
 
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Jean4

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I don't think I will feel regret after drinking my N but I know I will feel a deep sadness that my life has come to this.
Thank you for that. It hits home and I'm glad I'm not the only one.
 
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NeCkDeEp

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Maybe you could give them away to those shelters, who take care of dogs while their owners are on vacation? Or maybe you could send a letter or package shortly before taking SN to family members or else, the package would arrive 3 days after your death.
I have thought about that but my cat does absolutely not like strangers and I think that it will hold me back because of guilt if I'd bring her to a cattery and give a phone number of someone I trust.
My family lives in my home country, I live alone and abroad so it's really messed up to think about a solution, nobody in my life has a key of my apartment either.
Regarding your pets, can you used delayed emails to various people, to ensure they are taken care of ?
Who do you think would look after them ?
A good friend of me has promised me if I'd ctb is willing to see or she can take any of my pets in and if not then she will make sure that they all go to a lovely home.
However she lives in my home country and she can't be here 1 2 3 as well..

Also you both made me start thinking: if the police has an email address then I will send a delayed email to the police because they're allowed to break in to my apartment, I will leave for them a letter with contact details of my friend to let them know that they can contact her regarding my pets.
And as temporary solution as long as my pets will be here in the country I live with them right now, then I think that it's the best for them to go to temporary foster homes unless my friend would know that they're all loved in their new homes which is the most important thing.

Thank you so much both for making me start thinking about looking up or there's any possibility to send a delayed email to the police
 
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socrates

socrates

I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance.
Dec 3, 2019
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I don't think that you will be awake for long after SN as it seems like that you get really quick sleepy, probably not much time to worry about things.
The only thing I'm terrified of is that I will start thinking that it will take way too long for someone to find my pets despite the plan of leaving lots of food and water for them in the meantime
Yeah, there are a lot of things to worry about after you have ctb'ed. The best remedy I could think to fix that would be sending a delayed email or text to someone, but that has it's own problems like who would you choose to discover your body?
 
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I have thought about that but my cat does absolutely not like strangers and I think that it will hold me back because of guilt if I'd bring her to a cattery and give a phone number of someone I trust.
My family lives in my home country, I live alone and abroad so it's really messed up to think about a solution, nobody in my life has a key of my apartment either.

A good friend of me has promised me if I'd ctb is willing to see or she can take any of my pets in and if not then she will make sure that they all go to a lovely home.
However she lives in my home country and she can't be here 1 2 3 as well..

Also you both made me start thinking: if the police has an email address then I will send a delayed email to the police because they're allowed to break in to my apartment, I will leave for them a letter with contact details of my friend to let them know that they can contact her regarding my pets.
And as temporary solution as long as my pets will be here in the country I live with them right now, then I think that it's the best for them to go to temporary foster homes unless my friend would know that they're all loved in their new homes which is the most important thing.

Thank you so much both for making me start thinking about looking up or there's any possibility to send a delayed email to the police
Could you get some keys cut, and post them to your friend ? (for security, obviously don't write your address anywhere on that letter / parcel)
And then you can have a delayed email to that friend ?
 
MeltingHeart

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I don't think I will feel regret after drinking my N but I know I will feel a deep sadness that my life has come to this.

I worry more about chickening out after opening the bottle. Liquid N doesn't last long.
Same sentiment! (minus the fact I dont have N)
 
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NeCkDeEp

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Yeah, there are a lot of things to worry about after you have ctb'ed. The best remedy I could think to fix that would be sending a delayed email or text to someone, but that has it's own problems like who would you choose to discover your body?
I'd prefer to have the police to discover my body besides they probably know the best way of how to ring my parents (they live in my home country) to tell them about this. Anyway thank you!!
Could you get some keys cut, and post them to your friend ? (for security, obviously don't write your address anywhere on that letter / parcel)
And then you can have a delayed email to that friend ?
I haven't seen my friend for 3 years so in all honesty I don't know her address anymore hahaha and asking for her address might be a bit suspicious.

I'll find a solution, I can't do anything until my SN has arrived so enough time to think about this. Thank you so much!
 
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Some more ideas :

You could open a po box where you get your own private locker, and put a spare set of keys in there.

If your friend was willing, they could be the "co-ordinator".
They could explain to the police where the spare keys are, so the police don't have to use a forced entry.

But you should also be able to send a delayed email to the police, where you explain the same thing, plus give the contact details of your friend who will be helping to re-home your pets

Ideally you would do 2 delayed emails, with everything explained, and send to police and your friend.

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Note : As always, please note that I strongly encourage you to seek help with whatever is troubling you. Things may seem hard, but with the right help they can improve. There are many sources of help if you look and reach out. Please seek assistance in any and every way possible. You alone must decide upon your actions and take full responsibility for them, and you should always favour seeking help and keeping out of harm's way.
 
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ninthhokage

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Honestly, I can see myself freaking out a bit after I've consumed it. I just fear the unknown. My plan is to put on a cute animated movie and distract myself until I fall asleep.
 
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TrailerTrash

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I think about this ...... that' why I'm waiting a couple of months before starting the regimen ... I have all prescription drugs and SN so it's ready when I am. I'm going to clear and run my cell phone battery down to zero and with no house phone can't call for help.
 
NeCkDeEp

NeCkDeEp

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Some more ideas :

You could open a po box where you get your own private locker, and put a spare set of keys in there.

If your friend was willing, they could be the "co-ordinator".
They could explain to the police where the spare keys are, so the police don't have to use a forced entry.

But you should also be able to send a delayed email to the police, where you explain the same thing, plus give the contact details of your friend who will be helping to re-home your pets

Ideally you would do 2 delayed emails, with everything explained, and send to police and your friend.

:heart:

Note : As always, please note that I strongly encourage you to seek help with whatever is troubling you. Things may seem hard, but with the right help they can improve. There are many sources of help if you look and reach out. Please seek assistance in any and every way possible. You alone must decide upon your actions and take full responsibility for them, and you should always favour seeking help and keeping out of harm's way.
I do really appreciate your help but that's unfortunately not possible because you are already in my apartment if you'd open the frontdoor, I can leave the door unlocked however there are homeless people here and sometimes drunk people who fight in front of my apartment so if any of them gets in.. I'd be more scared that someone would harm my pets then, you know?

Also can I just say I've seen the note on a few posts and I really appreciate the note, thank you!
 
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I am saying you could rent a po-box at some company that provides po-box services, and place a spare set of keys in that po-box locker.
So those keys are stored somewhere away from your home.
But you could inform your friend and the police where that place is, and the police could get the keys from there, to avoid having to force an entry.....
 
NeCkDeEp

NeCkDeEp

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I am saying you could rent a po-box at some company that provides po-box services, and place a spare set of keys in that po-box locker.
So those keys are stored somewhere away from your home.
But you could inform your friend and the police where that place is, and the police could get the keys from there, to avoid having to force an entry.....
Oh sorry I've never heard about that before! That's a good solution, thank you
 
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jgm63

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Oh sorry I've never heard about that before! That's a good solution, thank you
In the emails, tell your friend and the police where that po box place is.
If the police don't get your email for any reason, then your friend can contact the police, and pass all the information on....

As an additional backup, could another email go to your landlord/landlady ? Don't know if that applies to your case ?
All the emails should contain all the details, plus contact details of the other people who are also receiving emails, etc...
 
APharmaDestroyedLife

APharmaDestroyedLife

Your RX drugs are likely your real problem
Nov 4, 2019
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I go back and fourth a on weather or not I want to CTB a lot. And I recently had the thought of what would happen if I regretted my decision right after drinking the SN. Thankfully I don't think I would have much time to worry, but it is a thought I have been pondering.
Have you ever felt this way before?
I bet every single person that ends their own life feels this for a certain amount of time. It's survival Instinct but past that there is fear.. I've said before I'm not afraid of death I'm afraid of dying...
 
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BPD Barbie

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The first time I tried I was 14 and almost instantly regretted it. It made me realise that at that moment, I wanted to live more than anything and I wanted to try and fix my problems. But the second time, that feeling wasn't really there anymore and I doubt it will be present again as I'm in a far worse mental state than I ever have been.
Some regret or fear is natural, humans are genetically predispositioned to fear the unknown and death, it's why we have survival instinct. But from my experience you quickly know if it's the right choice or not and in that moment everything becomes very clear. It's not all over, depending on how you do it I suppose. There will still be time to get help and reverse things in a lot of cases.
 
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mathieu

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I am worried I will freak out and try to save myself. I'm thinking of putting my mobile phone and router somewhere far from the house so I cant call an ambulance. It would be horrible dying as I've changed my mind.
 
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MeltingHeart

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I don't get it, if people are already thinking that they might change there minds, then surely they are not "ready" or fully decided or have many doubts...maybe some hope left even...or whatever u wanna call it...or what am I missing? Not being rude I just don't understand it...
 
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APharmaDestroyedLife

APharmaDestroyedLife

Your RX drugs are likely your real problem
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I don't get it, if people are already thinking that they might change there minds, then surely they are not "ready" or fully decided or have many doubts...maybe some hope left even...or whatever u wanna call it...or what am I missing? Not being rude I just don't understand it...
I think no matter how ready a person is, some have extremely strong survival instincts that may kick in regardless.
 
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MeltingHeart

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I think no matter how ready a person is, some have extremely strong survival instincts that may kick in regardless.
Is SI the same as regret thou? I guess they have similar tendencies & there is some cross over. From a personal perspective I feel like I will have very strong nerves (si) & fear it won't work (si) & of course fear of pain/ discomfort (si) but yet I can't think that I will feel regret. Aside from the sense of regret that I wish my life had not come to this...but not regret that I have taken it...(when the time comes)...if that makes any sense at all...
 
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