Quarky00

Quarky00

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what you do, leave another cocktail ready and drink again
Yes. I would force down another SN cocktail. Notice though that you can choose otherwise - recovery.

strength to drink another dose, if you're almost fainting
Fainting ~ 14m ... Probably vomit before faint

If I faint while vomiting mildly, I would be fine (fatal). If I vomit a lot and within 5 minutes then (a) I won't be incapacitated, (b) I'll have another go. No exact science here. Will monitor myself closely. Fast benzos could impair as well. I may sound confident but fear the same (have GI tract issues).

* SN takes few minutes. Vomiting induced by stomach & brain. Absorption done in intestines. metHb spread takes further time.
 
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Even with antiemetics and all the preparation, I'm afraid of the risk of throw up, what you do, leave another cocktail ready and drink again and if you don't have the strength to drink another dose, if you're almost fainting, but now you won't have a relatively peaceful death, because you don't have the amount needed SN on your system, you can have a horrible and slow death now.
I would like others to share their views on this, if you think than the chance of vomiting is high or low.
I think this is the biggest problem with the SN method.
I believe some people have vomited but still managed to CTB (although I don't know the specific cases for reference).
People have also taken SN without antiemetic, and CTB without vomiting.
 
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Looks like SN (x2) does the job , with no extreme side effect . Survivors were mostly rescued .

Mild fasting should make it faster, AE/Antacid may make it a bit smoother (for few the opposite), while benzo/beta/NSAID a bit more nice and calm - but it still works without.

Anyone know how much salt water (table salt NaCl) should one use for simulation? 5-10g w/50ml sounds right? Vomiting/diareah presumed and ok
 
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Looks like SN (x2) does the job , with no extreme side effect . Survivors were mostly rescued .

Mild fasting should make it faster, AE/Antacid may make it a bit smoother (for few the opposite), while benzo/beta/NSAID a bit more nice and calm - but it still works without.

Anyone know how much salt water (table salt NaCl) should one use for simulation? 5-10g w/50ml sounds right? Vomiting/diareah presumed and ok
What do you mean with " SN (x2)"?

Which is NSAID?

I don't know how to help you with your simulation, but I would like to follow this, would you mind doing a thread? But you think this simulation is really necessary?
 
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Just remember: Throwing up doesn't mean failure. 5g are enough to kill yoy just you're making yourself sure with a higher dose.
 
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I doubt it's the taste of SN that makes people vomit. The nausea and vomiting are the body's natural response to a foreign/toxic substance. The only way to "bypass" that response is by using anti-emetics that work on those specific receptors in the brain. A funnel isn't going to help.

What do you all think of using Dramamine AND Tagamet together as Anti-Emetics??

(i cannot get prescrip meto and too paranoid to do anything illegal or use darknet) so i'm stuck with over the counter anti-emetics with SN...
 
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What do you all think of using Dramamine AND Tagamet together as Anti-Emetics??

(i cannot get prescrip meto and too paranoid to do anything illegal or use darknet) so i'm stuck with over the counter anti-emetics with SN...
Tagamet is an acid reducer. It is not an anti emetic.
 
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SN (x2) = The practice of having a second SN cocktail, if one vomits the first. (should be added to Stan's Guide)

people have reported being sick and still passed on. I aim to make a few glasses and continue to intake SN if any comes uo.

NSAID = "drug class that reduces pain"
would you mind doing a thread? But you think this simulation is really necessary?
Will open thread soon. Salt water or simulation absolutely not necessary! I'm just pedantic :) Some here tried salt water but cannot find the posts.
 
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SN (x2) = The practice of having a second SN cocktail, if one vomits the first. (should be added to Stan's Guide)



NSAID = "drug class that reduces pain"

Will open thread soon. Salt water or simulation absolutely not necessary! I'm just pedantic :) Some here tried salt water but cannot find the posts.
The only thing I have doubt. If I puke and drink the second glass and puke more. I am afraid of that. I wont call ambulance anyway
 
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I feel like I can't get a really good read on expectations of vomiting. I do not have access to a doctor for meto or anything, so besides an antacid and maybe ibuprofen I would just do the sn. I think upon consideration the solution should be very minimal and I have to believe I could keep it down, but some people speak with much more conviction whereas the pph seems to be more casual on the topic. I keep returning to this because I think sn would be my preference, so I would have to just find trust in the moment.
 
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Im taking it with no antiemetic soon. I'll just take more if puking
 
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If I puke and drink the second glass and puke more

Read guide -
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/

"People make 3 glasses of the SN solution to drink some more if they feel they have brought too much up. People have achieved cbt after vomiting so it is not an automatic failure."
 
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I suppose my concern is more for the process. I think sn is most appealing because the idea of laying down in my own bed and just falling asleep is fairly compelling. Puking in my last moments, possible anxieties and anticipations, might be unpleasant. I will undoubtedly be wearing a diaper, anyways, so things will be far from perfect I guess :ahhha:

Extra glass or two ready no question
 
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Read guide -
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/

"People make 3 glasses of the SN solution to drink some more if they feel they have brought too much up. People have achieved cbt after vomiting so it is not an automatic failure."
Thanks. But what I dnd't urdenstand is if I puke I should drink all the entire 2nd class or just an approximate amount I puked.
I suppose my concern is more for the process. I think sn is most appealing because the idea of laying down in my own bed and just falling asleep is fairly compelling. Puking in my last moments, possible anxieties and anticipations, might be unpleasant. I will undoubtedly be wearing a diaper, anyways, so things will be far from perfect I guess :ahhha:

Extra glass or two ready no question
I wouldn't lay down on bed because of vomitreflux. I will sit on the recliner
 
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Thanks. But what I dnd't urdenstand is if I puke I should drink all the entire 2nd class or just an approximate amount I puked.

I wouldn't lay down on bed because of vomitreflux. I will sit on the recliner

I have the same question about drink all the entire 2nd cocktail or just the approximate amount puked.
I have the same question about drink all the entire 2nd cocktail or just the approximate amount puked.
But I think the solution is to drink the maximum possible of the second cocktail.
 
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I can search through the countless threads again, but I believe the idea is with at least two drinks if you puke up half each time you might get your originally intended dose maybe not though with gastric juice changes

But no matter, if you anticipate having the extra glass might as well have a full one so as to minimize unnecessary puttering about to calculate and mix up some unnecessarily approximate dose and risk something happening. My sense at least on that last bit.
 
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It's 50ml, you won't know how much puked, how much of it is SN. --> Each glass drink as much as possible..

* Not that critical ... say first try 5g in intestine (15g puked), second drank only half, 5g passed (5g puked).. = 10g SN in intestine = fatal.

(imagineit wrote at the same time:)
 
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People who are serious about ctb mix 3 glasses of SN , your body reacts to the poison and tries to empty the stomach by vomiting. People who are serious about ctb drink a second glass to keep the SN levels high as the stomach absorbs it .
Even if you vomit some of the first glass , there is enough in your body to ctb provided you are not found . Read the resource guide .....Stan's guide to SN !!!
 
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Thanks I feel like I have been through so many sn threads the last couple weeks it's crazy
 
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It should be funny if you start throwing up over and over and need a third cocktail, I would probably start laughing. It's not as badass as seppuku, but it's still very tense. :pfff:

The last answers clarified well, I feel more confident now.
 
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It should be funny if you start throwing up over and over and need a third cocktail, I would probably start laughing. It's not as badass as seppuku, but it's still very tense. :pfff:
In between dry heaves, realizing you could have just hanged yourself
 
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Anyone knows of someone here who ctbed and had to drink a 2nd glass?? I think 2nd glass would be difficult to drink because of SI and you already know how it tastes. But I'll do it if I'm determined to ctb. It came to mind the harry potter scene when he makes dumbledore drink some liquid and he says no no
 
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When I tried last time, there was still enough in my system after vomiting a bit that I still fainted after, and was becoming blue when found. When I do it again I'll have an extra glass ready just incase. The taste wasn't nice, but bearable. Like seawater.
 
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When I tried last time, there was still enough in my system after vomiting a bit that I still fainted after, and was becoming blue when found. When I do it again I'll have an extra glass ready just incase. The taste wasn't nice, but bearable. Like seawater.
not to be found is a crucial point too
When I tried last time, there was still enough in my system after vomiting a bit that I still fainted after, and was becoming blue when found. When I do it again I'll have an extra glass ready just incase. The taste wasn't nice, but bearable. Like seawater.
Did you feel pain?
 
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this stuff is supposed to make you really weak because of the lack of oxygen
are you sure you're going to be able to go to the bathroom, puke there, come back and drink more of the stuff?
 
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this stuff is supposed to make you really weak because of the lack of oxygen
are you sure you're going to be able to go to the bathroom, puke there, come back and drink more of the stuff?
You're not going anywhere...you drink ...then you lay down with the the other glasses of SN next to you , puke where you are and drink the second quickly because the poison is already acting on your body , you are going to faint very quickly and then become unconscious .
 
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You're not going anywhere...you drink ...then you lay down with the the other glasses of SN next to you , puke where you are and drink the second quickly because the poison is already acting on your body , you are going to faint very quickly and then become unconscious .
that sounds very unpleasant. i hope i dont feel nauseous
 
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this stuff is supposed to make you really weak because of the lack of oxygen
are you sure you're going to be able to go to the bathroom, puke there, come back and drink more of the stuff?

Answered few posts before:

Fainting ~ 14m ... Probably vomit before faint
If I faint while vomiting mildly, I would be fine (fatal). If I vomit a lot and within 5 minutes then (a) I won't be incapacitated, (b) I'll have another go.
 
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There's been people that have used mouthwash before and after taking SN. You can also have a piece of mint or a very small amount of chocolate to get rid of the taste on your mouth. I intend on going for the mint to see if that helps, if I have to.
 
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