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SaberIsACute

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Jun 30, 2023
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I've recently realized that life never had to make sense to any of us. It's safe to assume that we all actually exist and possibly always will. The scientific explanation behind existence is that we are just matter that evolved to become sentient. And this might be a pattern that keeps going for all time. We can never truly die, because we were never truly living. Or maybe I'm just crazy.
 
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Grimpoteuthis

Grimpoteuthis

Your deep sea friend
Jul 1, 2023
84
Maybe we can't permanently die, but at least we can permanently clear the memory we made and start a new session fresh.
 
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animetal

a confession, a cadaver
May 8, 2023
91
I've recently realized that life never had to make sense to any of us. It's safe to assume that we all actually exist and possibly always will. The scientific explanation behind existence is that we are just matter that evolved to become sentient. And this might be a pattern that keeps going for all time. We can never truly die, because we were never truly living. Or maybe I'm just crazy.
This makes a lot of sense to me . Kinda like energy being eternal.
 
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PrisonBreak

Student
Oct 29, 2021
122
Maybe we can't permanently die, but at least we can permanently clear the memory we made and start a new session fresh.

I wish that were true. I don't want to permanently die. I just want to be released from my damaged body ravaged by multiple illnesses and start afresh. But I fear permanent non existence that most people often emphasize on here.
 
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Huggs

Wish for peace
Jul 6, 2023
209
It's possible.
I think…that's my intellectual quota for the year. Head empty.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
47,258
I very strongly believe that we do, I just think that once we lose consciousness, that is it for us, we are gone, and non-existence is permanent relief from all suffering for all eternity, to me there is nothing more ideal than being unable to experience anything, I see non-existence as being true peace.
 
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Grimpoteuthis

Your deep sea friend
Jul 1, 2023
84
I wish that were true. I don't want to permanently die. I just want to be released from my damaged body ravaged by multiple illnesses and start afresh. But I fear permanent non existence that most people often emphasize on here.
I was reading a book called Consciousness Beyond Life earlier that addresses NDE (Near Death Experience) and discusses possibilities of collective consciousness from a scientific viewpoint, indicating that the death of the body does not lead to the death of the mind. You might find it helpful!
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
14,725
Interesting (horrible- I want this life to be my only one.) So... what would 'truly living' be if it weren't this? Pure consciousness- not tethered to a biological being?

Our matter does get recycled though... dead humans don't directly become live humans- like some zombie apocalypse. Naturally speaking- we rot and feed insects and plants which feed other animals up the food chain- which we later consume.

If you're thinking our conscious energy gets recycled- maybe it's in an indirect way as well. Chances are- you won't remember being you. What do you remember about before your birth? If there really are these never ending cycles going on- I would think experience shows us that whatever process may be involved changes us. For the main (and maybe most important part) it wipes our memory for each lifetime- other than an absolutely tiny fraction of people who claim to remember past lives.
 
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HopefulSleep

Wants to sleep
Apr 24, 2023
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Doesn't mean I will still have my conscious
 
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locked*n*loaded

Archangel
Apr 15, 2022
9,510
I am so glad I don't hold the OPs beliefs.
 
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schrei_nach_liebe

Experienced
Jul 6, 2023
226
Us humans ain't that special we can just put a few words together and build nukes. Other than that we're a bag of flesh and organs and connective tissue waiting to rot.
 
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ihatethisplanet

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Jun 21, 2023
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I have never believed this but it has planted a seed in my head and now I'm afraid it might be true. What if we never escape this place and we just keep getting returned over and over, like old pieces of mail? I just want permanent sleep and to never deal with this planet or its people again.
 
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Lost Magic

Illuminated
May 5, 2020
3,216
No matter what anybody in this post says, nobody really knows what happens after the point of death. Maybe we go back to the elements, maybe we go to some abstract place, maybe we go to different realms, maybe we come back in different forms, maybe there is nothing. Who really knows? One thing is sure, we will all find out. Maybe DMT or some magic mushrooms might give more insight, so maybe I will try them one day. Who knows?
 
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TDF

Meh might as well die
Jun 24, 2023
475
As long as my memories are wiped I'm good and I no longer exist in the same life then I'm good. But hopefully also never again, hope my consciousness isn't recycled

I guess no one can really know, so my opinion doesn't matter. Personally I think we just die and just nothingness
 
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ares0027

Member
Apr 11, 2023
58
I feel and think the opposite. A simple thing happens and you are gone. You wont even know what you are, what you were. There wont be any consciousness or anything. Pure, plain, darkness. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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Arachnid_Antichrist

Probably a Philosophical Eldritch Being
Jul 2, 2023
51
I've recently realized that life never had to make sense to any of us. It's safe to assume that we all actually exist and possibly always will. The scientific explanation behind existence is that we are just matter that evolved to become sentient. And this might be a pattern that keeps going for all time. We can never truly die, because we were never truly living. Or maybe I'm just crazy.
This is similar to my theory about life. The theory goes: our consciousness isn't connected to our bodies and only exists in one by chance. There is so true point of life. When we die, our consciousness transfers from our bodies either to some sort of afterlife or maybe to some other life form capable of possessing a consciousness. We as a consciousness are sentient but humans by design are not sentient however are capable of being sentient beings via senses and other types of evolution (evolution of the consciousness or "soul" not of the human body). This would make sense if our consciousness is some form of dark matter or the old alchemist element, aether. And since matter cannot be created nor destroyed, and in my theory consciousness is made up of some sort of sentient forms of matter, our consciousness lives on after our physical bodies die. It was the human body that was living not the consciousness because consciousness is separate from the human body. (Sorry this explanation is so long. I'm in a talkative mood rn.)
 
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aGoodDayToDie

Arcanist
Jun 30, 2023
459
Some of the atoms in your body will eventually become part of other organisms. But that will be a different consciousness or soul so to speak. We don't get reincarnated in any significant way. Once we're dead, we're dead. Thankfully. Whatever "evidence" people have for reincarnation doesn't stand up to rational interpretation.
 
bedhead_baby

bedhead_baby

stupid selfish baby
Jul 16, 2023
115
I believe it's nothing. I don't really think your consciousness has to go anywhere. Your brain stops firing, so you consciousness is gone. It isn't a physical thing that must degrade. It's like a tv. When you turn it off, it's not like the picture is still hiding in there somewhere, because it wasn't really a physical thing to begin with. The tv was. And now it's off.

All of the energy in your body, your organs, your blood, your brain, will stop. Gasses will build, and that energy will explode out of you (if given the chance), and your flesh with rot until you're only bones. Your energy goes to the bugs that eat you, the soil that soaks you up, and flowers that grow because of you. If we were left to nourish the earth normally, that is. But that's where the energy goes, technically.

But I don't believe in a soul. If you do, then it could certainly end up somewhere else, who knows? But to me, believing humans go to a magical place or get reincarnated as something nice is putting us above every other living thing. How am I better than a pig? Or a bird? Or an ant? It never made sense to me why we're special and no one else is. They live and love and die just the same.

But ultimately, I wouldn't be shocked if I was wrong. There's a lot I don't know about the world. If I wake up after dying to a God staring at me, I'll probably shit my pants lol, but I won't be completely surprised either. What do I know? But I imagine it's the same as before we were born.
 
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Vegan Antinatalist

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Jul 17, 2023
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I've recently realized that life never had to make sense to any of us. It's safe to assume that we all actually exist and possibly always will. The scientific explanation behind existence is that we are just matter that evolved to become sentient. And this might be a pattern that keeps going for all time. We can never truly die, because we were never truly living. Or maybe I'm just crazy.
Im also worried that this is the case because all we scientifically are is matter and we will still be that when we die and we may become part of other living things. As a vegan negative utilitarian i am terrified of remaining trapped in this hellish suffering arena of rape and vore
 
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Shaylla1998

Member
Jul 9, 2023
88
Upon death, our consciousness ceases to exist, and our physical bodies, composed of atoms that originated from the birth of the universe, undergo the process of decay. Over time, these physical remains gradually disperse into the environment, returning their elemental components back to the Earth, atmosphere, and space.

The atoms that make up our bodies are part of a never ending cycle, endlessly recycled throughout all of existence. It is through our consciousness that we experience our identity, thoughts, emotions, memories, etc.

When we die, it is our consciousness that is lost, while our physical remains persist for a time, eventually blending back into the universe and allowing for the formation of stars, planets, solar systems, and potentially, other civilizations.
 
Darkover

Darkover

Archangel
Jul 29, 2021
5,649
death end up in nothing forever thats for certain
assuming there is a start then you have to learn to accept that somehow something came from nothing that some way in this universe it can create something from nothing has radical as that sounds its ture
chances of you existing are very rare assuming the universe can create something from nothing that means it can recreate you at some point in time

The adult human brain weighs about 3 pounds (1,300-1,400 g).
The adult human brain is about 2% of the total body weight.
The average human brain is 140 mm wide. 140,000000
The average human brain is 167 mm long. 167,000000
The average human brain is 140 mm height. 140,000000

3,273,200,000,000,000,000,000,000 nm in the human brain

number of atoms in the human body 7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
there's 8 billion humans on the earth they make up 56,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms
 

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