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DiscussionIf the world was a scale and its good and bad were being weighed...
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growing up I always had and was pushed to belief that the good and bad in the world were equal in amount and would level the scale. currently for me it seems like the bad outweighs the good and not by a small margin but overwhelmingly? what do you think?
I think there is more good than bad in this world. However, I think the "effects of the bad" are much easier to notice than the "effects of the good"
Think about paint. It only takes a small amount of black paint to significantly darken a color, but it takes a very large amount of white paint to significantly lighten a color.
I think the world is the same way.
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I feel like people, taken individually, are mostly good.
It's when we get put together into groups that the "bad" starts to show. And the more of us that get grouped together, the more prominent the "bad" becomes.
With 8,000,000,000 people on the planet, that's a lot of grouping going on, and... things are not ideal...
growing up I always had and was pushed to belief that the good and bad in the world were equal in amount and would level the scale. currently for me it seems like the bad outweighs the good and not by a small margin but overwhelmingly? what do you think?
Definitely the latter. You grew up with lies. Look up David Benatar's assymmetry argument. There is no such thing as chronic pleasure, yet there is such a thing as chronic pain. Suffering is felt more intensely than pleasure. You eat and feel pleasure for like 30 minutes max, then neutral for many hours, then hunger for hours unless you eat again, and potentially starvation for days if you look at much of the human population right now globally. Things also tend toward chaos not order.
I feel like people, taken individually, are mostly good.
It's when we get put together into groups that the "bad" starts to show. And the more of us that get grouped together, the more prominent the "bad" becomes.
With 8,000,000,000 people on the planet, that's a lot of grouping going on, and... things are not ideal...
No. Social identity theory has shown with many experiments that groupings in and of themselves don't cause outgroup derogation. Ingroup preference yes, but not automatic outgroup derogation. It takes things like ressource scarcity (or artificial scarcity) or low self-esteem and more to start seeing group competition and hate.
It's all just suffering to me and that is why I only hope and wish for non-existence, I'd never wish to suffer in this cruel, torturous existence no matter what, I see existence itself as the most horrific and terrible tragedy that just causes endless amounts of harm and torments existing beings until they die anyway. As long as I exist I'll only ever wish to die, it terrifies me how there is no limit as to how much agony one can feel as long as they exist all while they are destined to be tortured by old age, personally I only hope to never exist again but I wish I could just erase my existence like I never suffered at all. I'll always find existing to be so dreadful, I find it such a painful, futile burden to be conscious and aware at all, to me existence just feels like a mistake, the amount of suffering it causes truly is beyond comprehension.
The bad would be so heavy, not only would the scale tip over, but the bad would break through Earth's crust, sink down to the center of the molten core before collapsing into a black hole and eating the planet from the inside out.
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No. Social identity theory has shown with many experiments that groupings in and of themselves don't cause outgroup derogation. Ingroup preference yes, but not automatic outgroup derogation. It takes things like ressource scarcity (or artificial scarcity) or low self-esteem and more to start seeing group competition and hate.
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