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I wanted to go with SN but DMC is having issues (still hoping a new website for them will come up soon) so now I'm considering hanging. If this is your preferred method or one of them, I'd love to know why. Also if youre planning on full or partial. Would really like some opinions
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I think if I ever do actually CTB it will likely be by hanging - but if I had access to other things it definitely wouldn't be and I think the same goes for most people.
Most accessible methods of CTB have low success rates. However, hanging (at least when done right) is very lethal. The most common reasons people fail are poor anchor point, ligature breakage, or SI. Every story I've heard of hanging has to do with inadequate set-up or SI, you never hear of it just not working like how it sometimes does with people taking SN or pills or something. If you can overcome SI (or do full suspension and completely remove this issue) and you ensure that your rope, knot, and anchor are all tested to bear excess of your weight, there's very little that could stop it. Pretty much the only thing is someone finding you. If I hang myself I plan to do it on old hiking trails which have been closed that are gated off from the public and have to be climbed over - won't be home so my family wouldn't see me, and I think being found and saved within time there is very low-chance as to even get in there you have to climb a locked fence and trespass. I plan to do it at 3 AM or something too so visibility would be low and chances are no one would even see me off to the side of the trail hanging from a tree.
If I could, my method of choice would definitely be overdose. I work in healthcare and I can tell you that 90% of people who overdose have no recollection of it following resuscitation. You die without even knowing it. The issue with this though is that street drugs are not predictable in their concentration and dosage. Pharmaceutical drugs are pretty much impossible to get. Otherwise I would consider firearms, but I have a known history of mental illness and suicidality, and in Canada you need references to state that you are not suicidal to be granted a firearms license. A middle ground for me might be injecting myself with medications and then waiting for them to kick in so I drop onto the rope and hang without experiencing the associated pain/discomfort.
I remember a few months ago I saw a post where someone had linked to an erotic video of a woman being hanged and then lifted up - in that instance it didn't seem painful or unpleasant. If you practice hanging it doesn't necessarily have to be painful (or at least so I've been told by some people on this site), but things can always go wrong at the last second. The rope can slip into the wrong position, maybe closing your trachea and suffocating you instead of pushing on your carotid arteries and causing you to black out. As long as suicide is self-administered, there will always be these issues. Performing a "procedure" on yourself which necessitates you to lose consciousness will never be 100% reliable. Even lucid surgeons sometimes mess up during procedures, so people trying to kill themselves will too.
On the Dying With Dignity Canada website, they discuss the medications that are used in MAID (medical assistance in dying) provisions. Midazolam to sedate you and reduce anxiety, Propofol to put you into a comatose state, and then rocuronium to stop you from breathing. Any anxiety you have would be prior to administration of the first medication and would quickly disappear. This would be my preferred method. I think in general if suicide was medically supported and there was less animosity and stigma surrounding it, it would be looked down upon far less. Hopefully one day MAID will be legalized for anyone with any reason for not wanting to live - as long as they can demonstrate maturity and serious intent surrounding the decision. Healthcare workers I know who have been/are involved in this process have told me that a MAID death is the least traumatic type of death. It is controlled and peaceful, people get a chance to say their goodbyes and die (at least relatively) comfortably and not in pain. I think eventually in the future maybe people will realize this and pretty much everyone will die from MAID - apart from accidental deaths (at least assuming the anti-suicide fanaticism doesn't continue past the near future).
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I prefer established execution methods, because they're well tested, very effective and well documented.
Compared to other execution methods, hanging is simple and very accessible.
I'm talking mainly about standard/long drop. Partial and the like is too experimental for me.
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Because I live in this fucked up country with strict customs and no domestic SN sources. And even if I had SN my only way to access antiemetics would be (correct me if I'm wrong) through some shady online pharmacies that don't ask for a prescription. However, the cops would be at my door in the blink of an eye since it's illegal to order any pharmaceuticals from non-EU countries. I'm trapped.
Yesterday I checked a DN forum based in my country, looking for barbiturates. Not a very discussed topic, but someone said they'd seen them on sale in Sweden. Again, customs and my inability to buy Monero pose a problem. If I had the technical knowledge, I would CTB by an inert gas, but it'd be irresponsible given that I live at home. Train decapitation and jumping scare the hell out of me. I've been considering OD'ing on pregabalin and amitriptyline but last time I checked, there was not enough pills to die. What does this leave me with? Hanging. Preferably full suspension.
Sorry, I didn't mean to be this aggressive in my answer. I just wish I lived in America (guns), Poland (SN) or Latin America (N). It's funny how I'm supposed to be happy but I feel literally nothing. Nothing.
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As a couple of people have mentioned so far, it's easily accessible. I live in the UK, so our gun laws are insanely strict (so no chance there) and they're very strict on stuff like SN so that would be a no go too.
I'll likely go with full-suspension hanging since it's the most practical for me, though in the worst case scenario I'd jump Infront of a train or something along those lines (though I probably couldn't bring myself to do it cause I'd feel to guilty about what I'd be doing to the train driver and other people near by).
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I did research on this site and my first choice was inert gas. the whole process was so simple till I realize that pure helium is very hard to get. Next was SN but the same problem, it's hard to get and booking housing rental for 1 day in some war torn country is bound to raise all kinds of alarms. I feel that hanging is the best option.
@SomewhatLoved your post is very useful and I loved it. Can you tell me the full form of SI?
For everyone saying stuff about America and guns, I live in America and getting a rope to hang myself is ten times easier than going and getting a gun. They can make drugs and weapons illegal, but you will always need something to tie to something else, so there will always be rope. It also just requires a sturdy anchor, so it can be done anywhere.
My goal was partial, but I had trouble with SI, so my next time around I might switch to full.
Not my first choice but probably the only method that's verily accessible. Would want cyanide as my first choice as a good dose would kill you in less than a few minutes though i don't have access. SN is my choice atm but if mines gone bad then partial or full would be my only method left. Thinking full since my neck is thick and i have a hard time getting where i should place the rope for partial.
It is a fast, ancient, cheap and easy-to-execute method. All you need is a rope, a sturdy place that can support your full weight, a chair, and a couple of knots. Gravity and time will make the rest. Consciousness is lost within 5 to 20 seconds maximum, in 50 minutes you will be dead (better make sure you have enough time, at least an hour without anyone interfering)
It is always advisable to study the method and its mechanism, and if you are not very sensitive, watching videos to learn how it works.
Evelyn Lane's posts helped me a lot to inform myself and learn about this method.
I think I got a little obsessed.. but this is how I wish to die.
It's the only method outside of a gunshot I have any level of confidence in. I am scared shitless of messing up and being disabled for life which is why I have obsessed over every last detail. I am not confident in SN etc it just doesn't *feel* reliable to me.
The same reasons as mentioned above and the possibility to approach this method step by step. You can hang non letally, get familiar with the feeling and make sure that you pass out within seconds. This mitigates the fear from the unknown and makes it easier to do the final step.
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I did research on this site and my first choice was inert gas. the whole process was so simple till I realize that pure helium is very hard to get. Next was SN but the same problem, it's hard to get and booking housing rental for 1 day in some war torn country is bound to raise all kinds of alarms. I feel that hanging is the best option.
@SomewhatLoved your post is very useful and I loved it. Can you tell me the full form of SI?
"SI" is short for "survival instinct", the idea that some natural reflex will step in and stop you from attempting to kill yourself. For example, in partial suspension hanging your body might panic and force you to stand up on your feet. Or in an OD, after you swallow the pills you might panic and call 9-1-1 out of fear even if you want to die.
My method, at least at this time, is a gunshot to the head. However, it seems to me that it would take a lot more balls to hang oneself. Best wishes to all.
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My method, at least at this time, is a gunshot to the head. However, it seems to me that it would take a lot more balls to hang oneself. Best wishes to all.
I second this. Gunshot by shotgun is my preferred method. Pretty much instantaneous.
I also agree it might be less "difficult" to go through with it. Pulling a trigger feels a lot more passive than stepping off of a chair or jumping or something like that. I've also thought about maybe somehow tying a string to a trigger and just pulling the string to remove myself even further from the act of killing myself.
It's the only method outside of a gunshot I have any level of confidence in. I am scared shitless of messing up and being disabled for life which is why I have obsessed over every last detail. I am not confident in SN etc it just doesn't *feel* reliable to me.
Hanging stats are probably the least accurate because if you fail you aren't necessarily in the hospital. Reporting is bad. Lots of people here have tried and failed many times but it isn't going to show in a study like a failed gunshot
Hanging stats are probably the least accurate because if you fail you aren't necessarily in the hospital. Reporting is bad. Lots of people here have tried and failed many times but it isn't going to show in a study like a failed gunshot
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