It's like restricting abortion. People still need to do it, but now they don't know how to do it properly. That means more suffering…
CatLove56
Specialist
- Jun 30, 2018
- 309
I'm pretty sure I've been here since this site was created and I thought we were allowed?
dustyfurcollector
Specialist
- Dec 17, 2021
- 302
I am one of those many. And I have to say that I'm grateful to have found y'all. I hope this will all pass over us all.
Before this website SS started as a subreddit. Pretty sure that methods talk was forbidden there.
CatLove56
Specialist
- Jun 30, 2018
- 309
Reddit is cucked a lot of stuff not allowed there anymore
little helpers
did I tie the tourniquet on my arm or on my neck?
- Dec 14, 2021
- 518
This! This is why I love this forum. Every single therapist gaslight me with toxic positivity.
"Oh, It gets better. Don't cbt". Well J, I'm glad you can say that to me while making huge bucks off of terminally suicidal people. Go home to your loving wife and 14 or so children. Not to mention that you had it easy, and the worst thing that happened to you was when you felt sad that you 5th grade girlfriend broke up with you. And every time I say something remotely negative, you are always there to call me a pessimist. Oh, but that's just the depression talking, not because of my experiences in life.
It's easy to say it gets better. Sure, but it gets worse for some.
Sorry for the rant. It's just this forum is were I can truly be honest and feel accepted.
When I have to start thinking about which things I'm allowed to say and which things I'm not...that's where all the freedom of speech is gone for me.
As a person who suffers from a severe clinical depression (on and off for the last 10 years), this was the only place where I thought people understood that for some, suicide is an only way to find peace, to get any relief from constant physical or mental pain. For many the recovery is no longer an option. It's more the question of when to ctb not if. SS was the only place I felt truly understood.
To be able to discuss the methods, was also very freeing. I think it helped many to achieve a peaceful death as opposed to dying violently, (e.g jumping under the train and traumatising the driver...)
On the other hand, there's so much stigma in society regarding death and suicide, it still surprises me that the SS wasn't shut down completely. Although, with more and more restrictions on the way, it will probably just become another reddit or worse, another facebook page.
As a person who suffers from a severe clinical depression (on and off for the last 10 years), this was the only place where I thought people understood that for some, suicide is an only way to find peace, to get any relief from constant physical or mental pain. For many the recovery is no longer an option. It's more the question of when to ctb not if. SS was the only place I felt truly understood.
To be able to discuss the methods, was also very freeing. I think it helped many to achieve a peaceful death as opposed to dying violently, (e.g jumping under the train and traumatising the driver...)
On the other hand, there's so much stigma in society regarding death and suicide, it still surprises me that the SS wasn't shut down completely. Although, with more and more restrictions on the way, it will probably just become another reddit or worse, another facebook page.
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little helpers
did I tie the tourniquet on my arm or on my neck?
- Dec 14, 2021
- 518
this is what I feel like SS has already become as of now, sadly. I keep finding myself wanting to explain and to legitimize, to exonerate myself of blame when I try to say it's kinda boring here now. but I don't think I gotta put on a defense to say that. there are many different categories people's suicidality can fall into. and we naturally enjoy connecting with those more like us. I'm not here looking for someone support me *through* my suicidality. I'm looking down on a day when it can finally be over now. it goes without saying that getting each group with themselves makes them feel better supported, *without excluding* the other group from one's conversation. the first group discusses suicidality, second group talks about suicide. there is a *profound* difference between two. like if you go create two subreddits, r/suicidality is going to attract very different people than to r/suicide, though the overlap is still there. that's what sections used to do in the past. and now? barely. content from the second group doesn't pass through. and we all self-censoring ourselves here.
I can go on and on about suicidology. I have theories. but it's important to recognize that both groups need a space, despite the line being blurry.
bold-italics cuz that feels important to me. I apologize if this comes off as too dramatic. and like, there *is* an alternative at the moment. I run into problems with registration so I'm just lurking there now.
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