TAW122

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I may have posted in another thread in regards to the topic of prostitution and sex, however, it was more of a general topic about prostitution in general so I just gave my two cents on it. In this thread, I'm looking for advice on how I'd be able to find an escort or prostitute (legally) and I will give my circumstances here. So I'm an Asian American male, in NC, not really physically attractive, don't have a lot of money (yeah I broke the Asians are rich stereotype) as I'm just barely getting by with a part-time job, have Aspergers as well as social anxiety, and also don't live anywhere near a big city (rather small town), into video games and other nerdy stuff even though I don't even keep up with the current stuff nowadays. Keep in mind that I'm not looking for a date, relationship (casual or serious), romance, nor marriage, so I don't want advice in regards to those or people recommending me to get one; I simply just don't find it to be worthwhile (which is another topic altogether).

It isn't so much the societal label of being a 'virgin' that gets me the most or just obsession with sexual intercourse, but rather the obsession with the lack of knowledge of what sexual intercourse feels like physically speaking. So in a sense, what bothers me the most is never experiencing and knowing what sexual intercourse feels like in my life. I just want to experience in my life just one time just to be able to "know" what it feels like. Unfortunately, the only feasible way and likely the easiest would be to pay for it in places that are legal to do so. Keep in mind that I like to keep things on the 'legal' side as that eliminates additional problems. Life is hard enough with developmental disorders and what not, let alone legal issues.

Anyways, I've considered a few options given that I reside in the US. The only place that is legal is Nevada (not even the whole state, just various counties and a few brothels in each of them). I have considered overseas, such as The Netherlands, in Amsterdam, and also Germany, however, that requires extensive traveling to get there, so I must consider the cost of plane tickets overseas.

Nevada
The problem with Nevada is that it will set me back many hundreds or possible over a grand or more just to experience sexual intercourse ($700-$1500 or so on average -- could be more though). This isn't considering the time to get there (albeit cheaper than flying to Europe it's still pricey, maybe a few hundred).

Europe
In addition to the plane ticket cost ($800-$1000 or so), the downside is the language barrier and generally getting around, but overall I think it is cheaper in Germany due to the legalization of prostitution.

Getting Escorts (in the US)
The downside of this is to be sure that I am getting a legit escort and navigate through the hoops of booking, vetting, and also the steps needed before getting sexual intercourse. I get that escorts exist because it is essentially a loophole around the ban on prostitution, or at least in many places where prostitution is illegal. The other downside is even after shelling out potentially hundreds ($250-$450), it is possible that the escort will walk away with the money and I don't get what I'm after (sexual intercourse), or worse yet, an law enforcement sting, resulting in legal troubles. Coupled with my Aspergers and not best street smarts, this is very risky and dangerous for me to navigate alone.

What are your guys' suggestions on this? Please don't try to talk me down or dissuade me from pursuing this, because this is what I am after and I know what I want. I just need advice on help on the best way, cost effective, least risky, and least bureaucratic (many hoops and red tape to navigate and get around).
 
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Completely outside my range of experience, I'm afraid, despite growing up across the border from NV. I wouldn't even know where to start looking. I've heard they shut down the relevant sections in CraigsList and BackPage. I wish you the best of luck with the endeavor, though.
 
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Can only speak for Germany. Some places are very cheap like 50euro but the service is pretty bad. Guess if you visit germany you go in a bigger city like Berlin, Hamburg, Munich or so. try google and type "bordelle + name of the city" you get a ton of sites, some even with a rating for the brothel. The language isnt the problem, most of the girls can't even speak german cause they a from eastern europe.
But i don't think flying over seas for sex isnt worth it especially when you don't have much money.
Had my first time with a hooker with 18 and the last time with 25, now i'm 33. Never had gf and i never will cause my anxiety and i have no idea how i can bring a woman to like me, well and i have no idea what to talk to them.
 
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Alchemist

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Maybe you can try Mexico. It's way cheaper than the other options and prostitution laws are in a very gray area, so it's safer,
 
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@TiredHorse Thanks for the information and yes, it is unfortunate that those pages are taken down, thus making it even more difficult to pursue this endeavor, but I will look around.

@Bärchen Thanks for the insight for Germany. I don't have any plans to go to Europe anytime soon, but I'll consider that when I do. Sexual intercourse for me is just a one time endeavor for me, mainly to get an understanding and experience of what intercourse feels like physically. That alone bothers me much more than the simple fact of being a 'virgin'.

@Alchemist I'll have to research the laws in Mexico then. Also, another thing I need to consider is also learning some Spanish, which will allow me to get around easier around Mexico. Furthermore, given the political climate and things around there, I believe safety is a big factor to consider too because I don't want to end up being a victim of a cartel, drug war, or get entangled by shady people trying to do harm to me.
 
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sounds a lot like me, only i live in a big city. you live in NC eh? that's a tough one because im going to guess these escorts probably dont see many asian guys in that area, and honestly id be very very nervous. it's just that you will stick out quite a bit, especially if you're a virgin and they will be able to tell.

im in the same boat myself, and the more i think about it the more i realize that escorts are just regular girls and i'd be able to sense what they're thinking about me. if they're laughing at me on the inside, i WILL know. most girls in real life think im creepy and escorts would probably feel the same way too, only they might not say it aloud but i can still sense it. i used to think that escorts will fuck anybody, but i've recently heard that they'll only have sex with the men the feel are somewhat decent looking. you say you're not physically attractive, i worry that you'll receive some bad attitude from these girls.

i don't know how far you live from toronto but there's a lot of asian massage parlors here where the girls are more desperate perhaps and will be less likely to show you any kind of bad attitude which is the last thing you'll need. if i were you i would find an asian massage parlor and have sex with one of those asian girls who speak less english and just wants to make some money and therefore less picky.
 
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There are various backpage type sites out there, e.g. ebackpage.com

I have no idea if listings are legit, but an option. "Alternate" print magazines in cities often have escort listings.
 
Nobodysfault

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There are a few "sugar daddy" websites, a normal girl (not a whore per say) who has sex with you for 50 to 300 bucks and its technically legal cause you dont pay for sex, you "pay to support her"..
Also- Massage places who gives an happy ending.
 
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@snowman626 I live over 750 miles from Toronto so it'll be a long journey to get there. Also, that really sucks when you mentioned that even only escorts will fuck attractive people, which means I may be pursuing a fool's errand and also potentially parting ways with my hard earned money (I heard they are over $200-$250 for starting prices but easily over $350-$400 for the better ones, which is a lot). Again, since I'm not the stereotypical 'rich' Asian male in the west, I don't have much going for me there (adios gold diggers if they ever want to go after me). I suppose I'm just really fucked in a lot of aspects in life, including any dating prospects (despite what people around me think -- which I dismiss them as they ignorant of my situation and ever only see things in rose-tinted lenses in regards to my dating and relationship prospects; aka - false hope. It is also futile to discuss dating and relationships with them because they'll just resort to fucking outliers and deny circumstance, logic, and evidence for political correctness and blind optmistic)

Also, after hearing that, it reminds me of the situation similar to Wilkes McDermid, only that he was more frustrated about the dating and relationship scene for Asian males in the West while I'm mostly just after the sexual experience. It is a shame that even after his research and findings (backed with lots of evidence and adequate sources) people still don't take him seriously, continue to be delusional, denial, and ignorant of the truth and the hardships faced by most Asian men in western society. But I digress...

@Kyrok, I have heard of several alternatives, but I'm not sure if I'd take the risk even if it is cheaper, as cheaper does result in either a trap (LE sting or scam), bad experience/service (even if legit), or just not worthwhile. Also, I will need to take time to look further into these alternative sites.

@Nobodysfault I've heard of the term "sugar daddy" and "sugar baby", and I know it differs from escorts and what not, but isn't the same problems for the sugar baby, such as not guaranteed sexual intercourse, and falls more in line with dating? According to what @snowman626 mentioned earlier about escorts not always wanting to just have sex with anyone that pays, I'm afraid that the sugar baby relationship might result in similar outcomes, with the only difference it being a quasi-date? Correct me if I'm wrong though.
 
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Also, after hearing that, it reminds me of the situation similar to Wilkes McDermid, only that he was more frustrated about the dating and relationship scene for Asian males in the West while I'm mostly just after the sexual experience. It is a shame that even after his research and findings (backed with lots of evidence and adequate sources) people still don't take him seriously, continue to be delusional, denial, and ignorant of the truth and the hardships faced by most Asian men in western society. But I digress...

that was a great read and it's true. i live in a big canadian city and almost every white/asian couple is a WMAF, never did any counts myself but 90-95% bias seems about right. but id imagine that even if you're a 6'3'' multi million asian dating a white girl you're probably still gonna get a lot of heat for it.

i remember several years ago when i sold my car to a young white woman and was walking with her down a busy street, many males who walked past us gave us (or me specifically) a look, clearly they thought we were a couple or something. one guy who walked past us randomly said "hello" to the woman, and it was in a really creepy way, he had this weird smirk on his face and was looking at the woman up and down. it's almost like they're all saying "can't believe you're with that, i can give you better"
 
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that was a great read and it's true. i live in a big canadian city and almost every white/asian couple is a WMAF, never did any counts myself but 90-95% bias seems about right. but id imagine that even if you're a 6'3'' multi million asian dating a white girl you're probably still gonna get a lot of heat for it.

i remember several years ago when i sold my car to a young white woman and was walking with her down a busy street, many males who walked past us gave us (or me specifically) a look, clearly they thought we were a couple or something. one guy who walked past us randomly said "hello" to the woman, and it was in a really creepy way, he had this weird smirk on his face and was looking at the woman up and down. it's almost like they're all saying "can't believe you're with that, i can give you better"
Thus, I pretty much decided that dating is just simply not worth it, especially for the average/below average Asian male in the west. I don't meet any of the criteria listed by McDermid, and it would be a waste of time and energy, along with disappointment and regrets if I decide to pursue dating. Therefore, I just want to get the shortcut to get what I'm looking for (sexual intercourse), and then move on with life.
 
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Thus, I pretty much decided that dating is just simply not worth it, especially for the average/below average Asian male in the west. I don't meet any of the criteria listed by McDermid, and it would be a waste of time and energy, along with disappointment and regrets if I decide to pursue dating. Therefore, I just want to get the shortcut to get what I'm looking for (sexual intercourse), and then move on with life.
SS is anonymous forum right, then maybe we have prostitutes/scorts or even celebrities among us, like Michael Jackson daughter looking how Ctb.
 
TheGoodGuy

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If you want to try one in Europe I recommend going to Amsterdam´s Red Light District, I was there on a class trip in 10th grade and half the guys had sex with the prostitutes and they look AMAZING! They look like straight up 10/10 pornstars and only charge 50 Euros I didn´t have sex with any of them for reasons I don´t want to say public but I´d say if you want a real good looking prostitute go to Amsterdam.
 
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It's not exactly illegal, you get in a bigger trouble by littering, and that only happens if you pick one on the streets. If you can pay for a ps4 you can get some time with one of the expensives ones, which tend to be the safests and most of that class tend to be bilingual and cater to businessmen. The trick is looking for one who has certified photos, gives prices, and if possible, has social media presence. And regarding the country's insecurity, it's true it's a shithole, but if you stay on the tourist areas, you'll be safe.
 
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SS is anonymous forum right, then maybe we have prostitutes/scorts or even celebrities among us, like Michael Jackson daughter looking how Ctb.
It is indeed possible... however, I'm not sure who is or isn't and it's the nature of anonymity I suppose.

If you want to try one in Europe I recommend going to Amsterdam´s Red Light District, I was there on a class trip in 10th grade and half the guys had sex with the prostitutes and they look AMAZING! They look like straight up 10/10 pornstars and only charge 50 Euros I didn´t have sex with any of them for reasons I don´t want to say public but I´d say if you want a real good looking prostitute go to Amsterdam.
I'll take this into consideration, the only thing then to consider is how I'm going to afford to go to Amsterdam and also how to navigate the area.

It's not exactly illegal, you get in a bigger trouble by littering, and that only happens if you pick one on the streets. If you can pay for a ps4 you can get some time with one of the expensives ones, which tend to be the safests and most of that class tend to be bilingual and cater to businessmen. The trick is looking for one who has certified photos, gives prices, and if possible, has social media presence. And regarding the country's insecurity, it's true it's a shithole, but if you stay on the tourist areas, you'll be safe.
Ah I see. I'll have to do extensive research on this then, including the touristy areas to stay safe.
 
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I'll take this into consideration, the only thing then to consider is how I'm going to afford to go to Amsterdam and also how to navigate the area.
Yeah it´s very expensive to go from the US to Europe I want to visit the US but the plane tickets are so insanely expensive!
anyways best of luck.
 
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What stops you from going on escort sites? If you're considering your options, I would recommend looking up the phone number they provide and seeing reviews. There are a dozen review sites. USG, AL, PD, HWM, to just name a few. If the escort has a social media site or has been reviewed before by other people, you'll likely be fine. If s/he is willing to do a background check on you, the more legitimate that she is. It helps rule out any PD.

Escorts aren't a grey area (but you should look up county and state laws). You're paying someone to go out on a date with you. You're not paying for sex. There isn't really a point in having to fly out a dozen miles to go to a brothel. Brothels are going to be significantly more expensive. Quite honestly, I'd argue that losing your virginity from a brothel (and you'll be spending quite a bit) isn't worth the venture. Hire one locally. If you communicate to her that you're not experienced she'll probably take the lead. It's a job. She wants you to feel good and make sure you come back to her.
 
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I've never done it, but since you mention it, Amsterdam seems like reasonably decent place to try. The language barrier will be minimal, as almost everyone speaks English, and it's a fairly safe place to be. It's also just a nice place place to visit, with something for most everyone and an open minded population. I would think you'd have a good chance of experiencing a friendly, professional and safe ...errrr, transaction.
Thus, I pretty much decided that dating is just simply not worth it, especially for the average/below average Asian male in the west. I don't meet any of the criteria listed by McDermid, and it would be a waste of time and energy, along with disappointment and regrets if I decide to pursue dating. Therefore, I just want to get the shortcut to get what I'm looking for (sexual intercourse), and then move on with life.
Sure your odds may be lower with finding someone if you aren't typically sexy, confident, or whatever, but it's not as though all women are vacuous cunts just looking for a "hot" guy with a big cock and a mansion, and I'm not sure why anyone would want something so shallow to begin with; it's probably bad for self-confidence, and even the sex might be less fulfilling. But yeah, if you just want to fuck, seeing a professional sounds like a good idea to me.
 
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I feel like it's really not worth it. You have the legal risk (potential sting/arrest) and then a possibly dangerous situation where anything can happen (STD/being robbed etc). The cost is out of proportion for the service. Plus if you decide to stick around then most everyday girls I've spoken to are repulsed by a guy who's been with a prostitute so that might be difficult if you ever decide to open up about it. And I'm not hating, I just want to call it like it is.
 
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What stops you from going on escort sites? If you're considering your options, I would recommend looking up the phone number they provide and seeing reviews. There are a dozen review sites. USG, AL, PD, HWM, to just name a few. If the escort has a social media site or has been reviewed before by other people, you'll likely be fine. If s/he is willing to do a background check on you, the more legitimate that she is. It helps rule out any PD.

Escorts aren't a grey area (but you should look up county and state laws). You're paying someone to go out on a date with you. You're not paying for sex. There isn't really a point in having to fly out a dozen miles to go to a brothel. Brothels are going to be significantly more expensive. Quite honestly, I'd argue that losing your virginity from a brothel (and you'll be spending quite a bit) isn't worth the venture. Hire one locally. If you communicate to her that you're not experienced she'll probably take the lead. It's a job. She wants you to feel good and make sure you come back to her.

True, but one of the things that I am concerned about is getting stiffed or simply just being told no sex, and then that would have been the end of the encounter for me, and hundreds of dollars down the drain. @snowman626 mentioned that even escorts can be picky on who they want, so while I do pay for the time, there is no guarantee for sex, and I would have no recourse since prostitution is illegal in all of the US (except various parts of the state of Nevada).

I've never done it, but since you mention it, Amsterdam seems like reasonably decent place to try. The language barrier will be minimal, as almost everyone speaks English, and it's a fairly safe place to be. It's also just a nice place place to visit, with something for most everyone and an open minded population. I would think you'd have a good chance of experiencing a friendly, professional and safe ...errrr, transaction.

Sure your odds may be lower with finding someone if you aren't typically sexy, confident, or whatever, but it's not as though all women are vacuous cunts just looking for a "hot" guy with a big cock and a mansion, and I'm not sure why anyone would want something so shallow to begin with; it's probably bad for self-confidence, and even the sex might be less fulfilling. But yeah, if you just want to fuck, seeing a professional sounds like a good idea to me.

Yeah I agree, since I just want to 'fuck' and have no interest in pursuing a relationship, date, let alone even marriage, then it's just good to get it over with and fulfill my curiosity and knowledge.

I feel like it's really not worth it. You have the legal risk (potential sting/arrest) and then a possibly dangerous situation where anything can happen (STD/being robbed etc). The cost is out of proportion for the service. Plus if you decide to stick around then most everyday girls I've spoken to are repulsed by a guy who's been with a prostitute so that might be difficult if you ever decide to open up about it. And I'm not hating, I just want to call it like it is.

Thanks for the input. As far as legality, I am aiming for legal options and things like that, hence Nevada brothels and Germany or Netherlands would be a way to avoid the legal issues and dangerous situations. While it is not perfect, it is probably the most direct and straightforward way I can think of to get 'sex' without all the maneuvering and what not. Yes, I still have to do research and brothels will be expensive so I need to find a way to save up and make sure I minimize my costs for what it's worth. Since I don't plan on getting into a relationship anytime soon, I'm not too worried about most everyday women looking down on me. I might just stay single for the rest of my life since I enjoy the solitary lifestyle more than being in a relationship. Also don't worry, you're not hating and I appreciate the heads up and the thorough response.
 
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Traveling abroad for sex is for people who want to do it many times
Where they get the same quality as escort only for a low price
Police is likely to be a problem as much as it is for getting drugs
I.e not very much
It's hard to imagine she will say no what's the point
If she comes to you or a hotel so her intentions are obvious and if she hosts then she will say before you pay what it is you are paying for
 
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Just curious, what would you want to happen in this kind of circumstance so as not to find the experience awkward?
 
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I live in Brazil, many foreigners come here for the sexual trade, particularly in Rio de Janeiro. From what I see and read it´s relative safe, the Pimps pay the police so there´s no risk of being arrested or something, you would have to protect yourself however from STDs and criminals that find these visitors easy prey.

I never had sex also, I DO LIKE WOMEN and thank god for porn, but never had the urge to get a girlfriend or pay to have sex. Just one of my many quirks I suppose.

Funny, I grew up watching american movies and tv series and if you go by them it looks like all you have to do is to drive to a certain place at night and dozens of girls are waiting on the sidewalk for you to choose:ahhha:
 
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Thus, I pretty much decided that dating is just simply not worth it, especially for the average/below average Asian male in the west. I don't meet any of the criteria listed by McDermid, and it would be a waste of time and energy, along with disappointment and regrets if I decide to pursue dating. Therefore, I just want to get the shortcut to get what I'm looking for (sexual intercourse), and then move on with life.

I respect your choice to not consider dating, however I would like to give you the perspective of a socially anxious and kind of nerdy woman. I felt the way you did before I met my hubby and until I was 21, pretty no one wanted to date me. After a makeover and a bit of getting out of my shell, I was able to meet guys who wanted to have sex with me. I personally find Asians to be super hot and know loads of white people who are dating Asians. Would it be worthwhile for you to date women that aren't super attractive physically/more average looking? Then I am sure you would have good chances to find someone. If you are really looking for prostitutes, then why don't you try Thailand? There, I saw loads of absolutely gorgeous girls dating old white ugly men for a summer or so. If an old ugly white man can land himself an 10/10 Asian girl, than I am sure you can do it too.
Another issue is that your first time will almost certainly be super awkward and you will probably come quick, so to really get the feeling of sex it is better to do it a few times until you get the hang of it (it happens to almost every man). So if you judge sex by the first time, you will be disappointed. So maybe it would be worthwhile to consider dating again? Sex is only really fun if you find the person you are with attractive and if you think that person is interested-if it is a prostitute, sex is more like getting rid of animal urges, but there is no real emotional connection there.
another good 'prostitute' country are the Caribbean ones, there are many girls there looking to make a quick buck with sex
 
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Memento Mori

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There are a few "sugar daddy" websites, a normal girl (not a whore per say) who has sex with you for 50 to 300 bucks and its technically legal cause you dont pay for sex, you "pay to support her"..

lol...in my eyes that is totally a whore i'd say. if i rob your shit i'm a robber and you're not my supporter, even if we call it that way at the court. bad example but yeah. if you feel like you didnt fuck a whore because of that youre just lying to yourself because of some complexes.

Can only speak for Germany. Some places are very cheap like 50euro but the service is pretty bad. Guess if you visit germany you go in a bigger city like Berlin, Hamburg, Munich or so. try google and type "bordelle + name of the city" you get a ton of sites, some even with a rating for the brothel. The language isnt the problem, most of the girls can't even speak german cause they a from eastern europe.
But i don't think flying over seas for sex isnt worth it especially when you don't have much money.
Had my first time with a hooker with 18 and the last time with 25, now i'm 33. Never had gf and i never will cause my anxiety and i have no idea how i can bring a woman to like me, well and i have no idea what to talk to them.

there are also many videos around the internet of guys talking about thailand, germany, etc. where to go and what to except. no porn, just information on locations etc. it's not hard to find these. yeah germany seems to be a paradise for prostitution (and other shit like pedophilia :angry:), is legal prostitution that rare in other european countries?




i'd say you might regret that decision someday, or maybe you wont care, idk. i dont need sex so im not gonna go that way but i understand your urges.

i heard they made a lot of progress with sex dolls... (lol jokin)



hope that this can make you laugh :)
 
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lol...in my eyes that is totally a whore i'd say. if i rob your shit i'm a robber and you're not my supporter, even if we call it that way at the court. bad example but yeah. if you feel like you didnt fuck a whore because of that youre just lying to yourself because o
I think so too, but it is technically legal and the girls are usually just "normal" girls who need to pay for their student loans, not the typical narcotic subway whore
 
Memento Mori

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the girls are usually just "normal" girls who need to pay for their student loans, not the typical narcotic subway whore

i would call that: case a) whore and case b) junkie whore

maybe my mindset is from a different era but selling your body makes you a whore no matter how you justify it. thats the meaning of the word. at least in my language... we can also say prostitute, or girl who likes to pay her student loan with a bathroom webcam show where she presents her asshole while hoping that no one records the stream and uploads it so that her son or his school friends some day wank off to her videos. lol

i just dont understand or like that business model, you are doing nothing than giving dumb apes their (never ending) satisfaction for some minutes with showing your body naked or masturbating or putting pickles in your loveholes, whatever. my view of sexuality just doesnt fit with that, and i wont accept such shit as a fucking JOB. this is just messed up, but yeah...like i said i just dont like that business model. everyone can do what he/she wants. but i will continue calling these "women" sluts. at least we can say one good thing: they do some sort of business out of the need of money and/or because they have fun with that job, and then there are these ultimate supercunts screwing with the hearts from people. they should earn our hate. its also hard to make someone guilty if that person acts like that because of past traumata, that theme is more complicated. ive already written enough, i understand your point, but doing it to pay school taxes or buy a car is nothing different to me than doing it for buying drugs. and doing it to feed your children because your state doesnt care, thats another point again, a very sad one...
 
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@Nullm Hmm, that is interesting to consider and think about, I'll keep that in mind (I still feel like there is a good chance that I'd pay hundreds and then the escort decides meh, don't want to for whatever reason -- even if isn't my fault, then I'm out several hundred with no way to get it back and that'll be an even worse feeling, being scammed and still a virgin along with the lack of experience of what 'sex' is.)

@Walilamdzi For me, it would be to experience what most standard sexual intercourse is, which includes:
PIV (penis in vagina), oral sex (blowjob, and doesn't need to be deep-throat), and anal sex (which I know may/not happen depending on the person, which is why it is ranked 3rd on the list). I'm not really interesting in a handjob as that is (physically speaking) the same as self masturbation, minus the interaction with another person. Emotional connection itself isn't as important (it helps, but not absolutely required for me) because it varies for everyone, but the physical aspect is more 'objective' as it isn't limited to just opinion and feelings, but something to observe or measure. When I go down this route, I know that I'm not getting it because she is attracted to me (she sees it as a job), nor am I looking for a girlfriend or wife, but just to satiate my curiosity and some of my primal urges.

@Oppenheimer This sounds like something that is way too risky for me, not just my lack of social and street smarts, but also I can't defend myself against dangers like that and being in a foreign country like that, it's gonna result in a really really bad experience. Thanks for the heads up though.

@hunter_lewis That is an interesting perspective in regards to dating. However, I've pretty much still already made up mind. Furthermore, in addition to the rejections that I face (which will be many more than getting the few, if any 'yeses' from women), there is also the social climate to consider. Nowadays, even for successful dating relationships, there has been a trend of women (not all or most of them, but some of them) who will falsely churn up a rape or sexual assault or w/e accusation if they get mad or if the boyfriend didn't meet their criteria for whatever or just bored (or evil). Again, not all girls nor women do this, but the few that do are more than enough to put me off on the idea of dating, as all it take is one false accusation (even if later cleared and found to be false, not guilty) the damage done would be immense and too late.

@Memento Mori I see your point and I personally believe that I will NOT regret it when I do it as my main motivation is to satisfy my knowledge and curiosity. In fact, the lack of fulfilling that knowledge and curiosity torments me more than the mere label of 'virgin'. (Yes being a virgin sucks, but what hurts most is the lack of experience of sexual intercourse itself, the physical aspect that is.) In regards to sex dolls, I could see it fulfilling a niche, but imho, it still wouldn't be as good as real human (it can imitate and get close but still not exactly 'the same'), plus it will likely be very, very expensive, possible more than a prostitute (until late, late future, which could be a decade or more from now). Finally, yes I got a little laugh from the video you posted.

@Nobodysfault I'd be happy to get that (assuming that I'm getting what I'm expecting, actual sexual intercourse, rather than nothing or a half-assed attempt, like right before the act happens she just says 'no' and then bye bye several hundred of my hard earned cash). Assuming she does agree and actually go through with the deed, then pretty much I have it sorted (unless she decides to make up a bullshit story of false accusation of rape -- which I may be overthinking, due to what has happened to many males even in regular dating relationships).
 
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but i think a prostitue wont give you what youre looking for. if youre fine with satisfying your curiosity first then go for it, and then wait/look out for the one girl. in my case i wouldnt want to bang an escort first, i shared my first time with someone who shared her first time with me and im very happy that i didnt check out a whore or had sex with any other girl, i would regret it. you dont have to share my magic-love-psychosis lol :) wish you the best ♥
 
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but i think a prostitue wont give you what youre looking for. if youre fine with satisfying your curiosity first then go for it, and then wait/look out for the one girl. in my case i wouldnt want to bang an escort first, i shared my first time with someone who shared her first time with me and im very happy that i didnt check out a whore or had sex with any other girl, i would regret it. you dont have to share my magic-love-psychosis lol :) wish you the best ♥

i do like your idea of magic love psychosis, but if people like me wait to share the first time with that "one girl" then i'll be waiting till im 60+
 

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