amnotreal

amnotreal

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Oct 20, 2019
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i am a parent and i never want to harm my kids so i want to choose recovery. i feel so hopeless and in so much pain. physical pain with no real diagnosis and emotional pain from child abuse. i am struggeling so much. i dont let myself have means so i cant act impulsivly. i have had 20 years therapy though and tried so many things to get better and nothing is working, i feel hopeless.
 
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Scotty's brother

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Oct 29, 2019
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I am sorry for all you have endured, it sounds like you were abused badly for a long time, it is sad that after we escape the ones who would have us feel this way we impose punishments upon ourselves at times, reliving , obsessing on things, sometimes I have had to ask God to help me, tell him your burdens are too great, you need his help, you can no longer endure your suffering, give it to God.

I am no go to church on Sunday guy and might be the last you'd imagine thinks this way, but I can tell you it works.

I do not know if it's God or Buddha or Mohammed or Zebulon on planet poopsilon12, but it works.
I try to stay joined up at a gym that has a pool and a jacuzzi, a steam room and a sauna.
Even if you never work out with weights it is like living like a millionaire , it is also good for you for exercise, swimming is fun and great exercise, walking every day, several times a day is good for receiving sunlight, meeting neighbors, new friends,.

Facebook has many groups, some meet up and do fun things like ride bicycles decorated with lights and they ride around having fun, a few I saw had electric bikes so you do not have to be in shape or even able to ride a bike as many 3 wheeler bikes are ridden.

Bowling is fun, church can be fun.
My Grandfather told me if we had a crystal ball a fellow might not want to go on.
I have ridden motorcycles 48 years and lost 7 friends who rode with me, I broke my left femur 5 places 1 was compound, both wrists were broken, Iwas in the trauma center 5 days before they could operate on my fractured femur, that is the most pain I ever felt physically , it hurt for a long time too,
I hada kidney stone a few years ago and the Dr said this was the most pain a man will ever experience comparing it to child birth, it is bad but I said I have had worse, the Dr looked at me strange and when I said my femur was broken 5 places , 1 was compound at my hip he grimaced and said well thats usually the most pain the typical man will ever experience, so I have transcended the pain physically on a level most never know.
I was a 50% beneficiary in a $2.3 million cash trust my Grandfather carefully assembled over his lifetime of disciplined saving and living below his means etc , his legacy was to pass on a legacy to us so we could then do so for future generations.
My Sister got into a fight with my Grandmother at age 19 and didn't invite her to her wedding and never set foot in her home ever again, she lives 500 miles away and was never close to our Grandparents as I was, I ended up being asked to care for her by her to preserve the trust and avoid a care hoe I said yes of course, my Grandmother insisted that the truest remain 50/50 and despite my Sisters abuse she was not cut out at all even though I was
sacrificing my HVAC career at the time I made &0k a year, m share of the trust was enough to insure I avoided impoverishment by being her care giver, everything was fine for 2 years until 2011 Pradaxa was prescribed to her and it killed her but it took 2 years to do so, during that time she require transfusions and was chronically anemic and had strokes requiring ICU status of weeks at a time her care became a 24-7 365 ordeal with someone I never knew who hated me now, I knew it was the strokes but unknown tome she made 7 codicils' during her last years slowly eroding my share leaving me fiscally impoverished secretly to trick me into indentured servitude only letting me know my security was stolen underneath me as if Bernie Madoff stole my retirement account, I was not even eligible to get Social security etc as a result of years of caregiving, I was forced to fight my family who did nothing to help me and sacrificed zero a sI did and I ended up getting most of my money but the lawyer got 1/3 so I lost more than 1/2 what I was to get and need, I discovered I had cancer of my kidney during the probate battle and they fought me for years hoping I died first, I wanted to die the betrayal and lack of respect for a job well done was extremely hurtful,l as if I dropped my wallet and they kept what they could by law

My little brother Scotty killed himself at age 26 a few months after our Stepmother accused him of raping her several years earlier.
This I knew was absurd, she had been inappropriate with me for decades, she would "accidentally" be caught masturbating ,doing it where we could or usually would see her, she would act oblivious but one time leaves on the ground were really
noisy plus I set the alarm n the main house when I left it to go to the guest house where I stayed and that required walking past their bedroom's double wide glass slider doors, if anything she sped up, her hand became a blur so no doubts she was purposely exposing us to this extreme exhibitionisim, she used to say she bets I would be a great lay, things like that, she even told me she would miss her 3 dogs more than him!
To top it off she was a bigwig with the State of California DHSS, she was one of a bunch who got together in Berkeley and designed the programs they then implemented and the remaining 49 states all accepted as the way to run CPS, they then go around the country to nice resort like places where they teach other sates employees how to implement California's CPS system there, if anyone was a conduit to a pervert network I used to think she was one of them.
She admitted to me that Foster kids by age 18 are often in prison or dead by 2 years and many simply vanish with nobod able to locate the kids, in fact when the migrants were separated from the parents recently and then were ordered to return the kids to the parents, I knew beyond a doubt they could not do so even if they tried to and sure enough they were unable to locate all the kids.
My Brother's suicide blindsided me, it completely derailed my life, I started snorting meth, smoking cocaine, weed, LSD, mushrooms, peyote, mescaline, PCP
I even tried heroin a few times accidentally, I became a drug dealer , gun smuggler, misogynistic pimp, started fighting anyone who crossed me and at age 31 became a felon which is not typically the age this happens in life, I took a radical left turn for about 15 years and to this day am still enduring the loss of my little brother in this way, never do this to someone who loves you.
 
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amnotreal

amnotreal

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Oct 20, 2019
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my therapist is helping me get ketamine assisted therapy which is the only thing to ever make the suicidal thoughts go away. i am hoping that helps. i did take a step towards having means to act more impulsivly. i just feel so bad.
 
Sweet emotion

Sweet emotion

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Sep 14, 2019
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I'm so sorry to hear about your situation. I have a severely painful physical condition. I know what it's like to keep going and going and never getting any help or answers. It's an awful way to exist because we aren't living. The only difference is is that you have children and I don't. That must be a huge weight on your shoulders. I can't even pretend to imagine what that feels like. I hope things improve for you, I really do. Your story breaks my heart.
 
Temporarilyabsurd

Temporarilyabsurd

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Apr 27, 2018
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I've been opening myslf up to some Buddhisty stuff.
I don;t buy into it all the way , ( ultimate source of love and goodness is real etc ... meh )
But , I have been listening to Tara Brach audio book , and even though I've primed myself over the years
to be open to it , it does offer some kind of process for addressing inner termoil.

I'm only just orbiting the outer edges of it , but the ideas about trauma , shame , PTSD , seem
to show some model that might help.
I feel like a fraud talking about it , as I'm into the idea more than doing it .

I've suffered spiritual disarray all my life .
No sense of centre ...
People talk about dissociation on here ...and I think I've lived that , with borderline personality disorder ,
People are always at arms length and intimacy is a threat .

This spirituality stuff seems to address the idea of having a relationship with yourself rather than not ( and that rang true for me ... it seems like I didn't really want to be , at all , and followed others whenever possible because of no 'inner cause'.

It's been a revelation to me that I was basically 'not there ' most of my life ... because of the OCD ish crazy talk
in my head ...where a sense of self and an openess to connnection and relation and 'happiness' ( what ? )
could have been .

I'll stop preaching ...
I hope you find some method to help you endure or heal or a bit of both.

Sorry for benig an arse , but it is in 'recovery' , and I think I'm maybe self affirming that I keep this as focus , or at least
'something' .

(The whole neuroscience conversation with Buddhism kind of sold me on this stuff .. I resisted it a lot , having been
shat on at church / cult and someone who used to be very close to me ( my first heart break ) is now
what I would loosely term a fundamentalist buddhist ... which poisoned the 'path' for me for years , not that I'm bitter or anything ,,, :/ )
 
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jgm63

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Oct 28, 2019
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One thing that could be helpful are the teachings of Barry Long (spiritual teacher)
e.g. You could start with this :


I'm not saying that it would solve everything but it could be worth trying.
 
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Bluefish

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Oct 18, 2019
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I'm so sorry you're struggling, I can't even imagine the weight you're carrying. Fighting against depression, pain, suicidal thoughts. You're incredibly brave, even if you might not always see it. I hope all the best for you :heart:
 
woxihuanni

woxihuanni

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Aug 19, 2019
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Wow, if I were lucky and precious and privileged enough to have the luxury of breeding, I wouldn't think of my childhood abuse. My childhood abuse is the least of my problems anyway.
 
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amnotreal

amnotreal

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Oct 20, 2019
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Wow, if I were lucky and precious and privileged enough to have the luxury of breeding, I wouldn't think of my childhood abuse. My childhood abuse is the least of my problems anyway.
if only I had the luxery to be able to not think about child abuse. sadly what often happens is memories start to surface after a survivore of abuse has children of their own. if I had the type of free will you may have (based on how your words sound) I certainly would not have found this forum for I wouldn't be suicidal ever. alas I am human and my neurology is such as I can't turn it on and off like a light bulb switch.

right now the only aspect of my childhood that is bothering me is my family minimized physical health stuff because at this moment it's physical health issues as a child that have left me repeatedly minimize my health issues to the point where I end up in crisis because of phjysical health and it isn't aythingd eadly it is just painful and overwhelming and embarassing .
I had been very suicidal and reading a lot and researching and then i think almost 2 weeks ago but im not sure, I used cannabis and I hadn't for quiet some time and I did it because of how overwhelmed I was getting with physical pain and digestive issues that made it so any painkiller i could take could cause problems to be a lot worse and my doctor is doing tests to try and diagnose this but no one ever comes to any helpful diagnosise for whatever is going on. i start thinking i am imagining the pain. and then i reach a point where i want to die to make it end and then i have flashbacks of pain and it just gets confusing and there are conflicting opinions about body memories and physical pain and childhood trauma and psychology and i discount it. my therapist keeps telling me not to discount this stuff and tell my doctor whats going on and i don't know but i used cannabis and the next day i woke up and didnt feel suicidal. it didn't last but it was nice. i am a much better parent when i dont think about suicide. i think it helped the pain and that calmed me down.
 
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woxihuanni

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if only I had the luxery to be able to not think about child abuse. sadly what often happens is memories start to surface after a survivore of abuse has children of their own. if I had the type of free will you may have (based on how your words sound) I certainly would not have found this forum for I wouldn't be suicidal ever. alas I am human and my neurology is such as I can't turn it on and off like a light bulb switch.

right now the only aspect of my childhood that is bothering me is my family minimized physical health stuff because at this moment it's physical health issues as a child that have left me repeatedly minimize my health issues to the point where I end up in crisis because of phjysical health and it isn't aythingd eadly it is just painful and overwhelming and embarassing .
I had been very suicidal and reading a lot and researching and then i think almost 2 weeks ago but im not sure, I used cannabis and I hadn't for quiet some time and I did it because of how overwhelmed I was getting with physical pain and digestive issues that made it so any painkiller i could take could cause problems to be a lot worse and my doctor is doing tests to try and diagnose this but no one ever comes to any helpful diagnosise for whatever is going on. i start thinking i am imagining the pain. and then i reach a point where i want to die to make it end and then i have flashbacks of pain and it just gets confusing and there are conflicting opinions about body memories and physical pain and childhood trauma and psychology and i discount it. my therapist keeps telling me not to discount this stuff and tell my doctor whats going on and i don't know but i used cannabis and the next day i woke up and didnt feel suicidal. it didn't last but it was nice. i am a much better parent when i dont think about suicide. i think it helped the pain and that calmed me down.
Dont mind what i said, im sorry you are suffering. Im just dead inside because mate, home, child are things my flesh could not deserve. I was murdered more than a year ago, just need to finish the job now.
 
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