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SamTam33

Warlock
Oct 9, 2022
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People with physical conditions are told to get over it ALL the time. We're told there must be some treatment that would help and we just haven't searched hard enough. It's assumed we don't know our own bodies and conditions better than random strangers do.

The image of physical diseases bringing sympathy and comfort is a movie stereotype and the experience of a lucky few. I've seen examples of people with mental illness who were supported, comforted and treated well, but I understand that that's the exception and not the rule.

I just mentioned in my last comment how stereotypes and platitudes are directed towards both groups. It's wrong in both cases, there's literally no reason to compare the two and make implications about physical conditions being preferable.

Imagine if I made a thread titled "I wish I had terrible depression instead of a genetic physical disorder". At least if it was depression I could get treatment… but no amount of talking to a counselor will fix my genetic disorder. And at least there's medication for depression… I can't just pop a pill to heal my genetic disorder.

Sound messed up? Like it's a false representation of the type of depression that tons of people here are suffering with, and based off of stereotypes instead of reality? Yeah.
People can wish for whatever life - or death - they want. I'd welcome a terminal illness because it's terminal.

There are differences in having a physical or mental disorder, and similarities as well. So it's not a reach for people to compare them.

But in both scenarios, you have to exist. So the more preferable one FOR ME is the one most likely to kill me.
The whole point of this forum is to be able to talk about taboo things. I admit the fantasy is bad and unhealthy, but I'm not going to stop talking about anything here.
My thoughts as well. No one gets a say in if I want to die, so they sure as hell don't get a say in how I want to die.
 
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Whale_bones

Whale_bones

Wizard
Feb 11, 2020
606
People can wish for whatever life - or death - they want. I'd welcome a terminal illness because it's terminal.

There are differences in having a physical or mental disorder, and similarities as well. So it's not a reach for people to compare them.

But in both scenarios, you have to exist. So the more preferable one FOR ME is the one most likely to kill me.

People certainly can do many things, and no one's suggesting you can't have thoughts. My point isn't about thoughts, it's about openly talking about a subject you have no experience with in a stereotyped, demeaning way to people who actually live with it in reality.

If you (the colloquial you, not you specifically) were ranting after a bad day to a friend and said something like this thread does, sure, that would make sense. If your friend had a severe physical condition and told you that was pretty messed up to say to them, when they live with the pain of that every day and you have no experience with it, and you responded "well I can wish for whatever I want!" Well, that would just be being an arsehole, don't you think?

This forum has far more than one person who's specifically suicidal because of physical conditions, and people know that when they go on here. Plenty of people have had thoughts that certain mental illnesses seem easier in one way or another. But saying it to an audience of people who are suicidal because of mental illnesses… that would be being a big arsehole. So people choose not to do that.

No one who's opposed to my point has responded to the example I gave with the two subjects switched. Is it still the same thing with the "I wish I had terrible depression instead of a genetic physical disorder" example in my comment? If it's different, why is it different?
 
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Defenestration

Defenestration

I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
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