Discussion I think people really need to start putting a sheet over themselves when cbting

[hurb]

I will actually do it in front of many mirrors so that it traumatizes them even more

 

[Shadows From Hell]

Boy, remind me to not suffer a sudden deadly heart attack around this guy.

"Oh, he died and didn't cover himself up first..."

 

[pumpkinboy]

it sucks and hurts to see dead bodies, of course itll change ur brain and ull likely get PTSD but, some people can have a method where they just CANT cover themselves, not all dead bodies are covered either. remember, some peoples SI kicks in and it can knock it off and they can die with it off.

my first message, i was talking about methods where its harder to just do that. thw methods arent the best but, how can they just "cover" themselves? what about people who just want to gey it over with and not worry about anything else and just push with their plan? what about those whose deaths were from an accident?

only such specific methods can have cover urself easily but, who knows how the body reacts? u must prepare urself for these things, its fine to not handle it and it feels like too much. look ay bodycams and reports, ppl puke, cry, switch places because its hard to handle but, its just smth they can counter with their job, u cant say ull NEVER see a dead body in a position of a firefighter, paramedic, police officer and many other jobs that invovles people.

Look i just think if you can you should

A lot of methods cause respiratory distress. I imagine having a sheet over your head would only intensify that. I'm not sure what methods you are considering where it would be all that easy to cover yourself in a sheet.

I do agree that- where we can- we ought to put up signs to warn people there is a dead body in close proximity. Preferably the method we used, what to expect to see and what safety precausions they need to use to protect themselves.

We can also lay down plastic sheeting to hopefully catch some of the mess. I've bought a slide sheet- with handles on- like they use in hospitals to move people- in the hopes it will make it easier for them.

I'm not too sure whether- even in assisting first responders- you can really avoid possibly coming across dead people though. I imagine it must be awful to experience but, I imagine it goes hand in hand with the job- unfortunately. If it impacts you more than others though- perhaps you could request a supervisor does a sweep of the area before you go in.

I can get over a dead body the problem is it's heartbreaking i know it's apart of the job and i know I'll see fucked shit but you can try

it really sounds like you're not mentally equipped to volunteer in a job like this. if you're cleaning a scene where you know there's most likely to be dead people then you have to make peace with that.

if you're saying "please cover yourself up when dying, it's the nice thing to do, if you can't cover yourself up then either don't die or find a way to do it so you're not exposed" then im sorry to say you absolutely cannot process dead bodies and this is your brain's way of trying to avoid it. which no judgement of course, just... obvious coping mechanism disguised as a strange take. you should examine whether you can take this or not

I can take it, it just sad af

 

[GremlinCan56]

ueah, covering with a sheet. ik both of those methods arent great. just curious on what ud say

Um, they will open the sheet and find your body anyways? also, its their job. Maybe avoid doing ctb in public for obvious reasons, but at some point, someone will come to look at your corpse, no need to bend over backwards and put every hypothetical stranger first.

 

[burninghill]

I read this earlier and resisted replying but it's come up again and I just can't,

I think this take is really silly, I understand what you're saying but though this post seems to be criticising the selfishness of suicidal people for subjecting service workers to cleaning up their corpse (or having to view it), I also think it's pretty selfish to ask for someone in crisis to make their suffering more palettable to you.
I really doubt that there isn't heavy warnings when you sign up for a job like that in regards to the potential of seeing a dead body.
Someone is gonna have to see it regardless. If it's covered, the obstruction will have to be removed so the person can either be confirmed as deceased or resuscitated. You can't just cover up a body so 'they'll know theres a dead body under there', if you can't assess them, how do you know they're dead?

If you don't wanna see a dead body, don't work a job where you have to save people.
You think seeing a body would make you have a 'bad day'? Imagine the day the victim was having.

 

[GremlinCan56]

I read this earlier and resisted replying but it's come up again and I just can't,

I think this take is really silly, I understand what you're saying but though this post seems to be criticising the selfishness of suicidal people for subjecting service workers to cleaning up their corpse (or having to view it), I also think it's pretty selfish to ask for someone in crisis to make their suffering more palettable to you.
I really doubt that there isn't heavy warnings when you sign up for a job like that in regards to the potential of seeing a dead body.
Someone is gonna have to see it regardless. If it's covered, the obstruction will have to be removed so the person can either be confirmed as deceased or resuscitated. You can't just cover up a body so 'they'll know theres a dead body under there', if you can't assess them, how do you know they're dead?

If you don't wanna see a dead body, don't work a job where you have to save people.
You think seeing a body would make you have a 'bad day'? Imagine the day the victim was having.

Really well said.

 

[Jello Biafra]

This is a really strange thread.

Joking to people wrestling with very real problems, like their own existence and how fuckin terrible of a state someone is in to be considering that is weird.

I mean, what are we talking about here? It's "cool to look like a ghost"?

And just how many people here are actually using such gruesome methods that it bothers you this much? Most people here aren't using shotguns or anything. Most are using SN, which isn't "gruesome" at all - at least not comparatively.

I'm not a first responder, never been in the military, or anything like that, and I discovered my wife of 24 years, not a stranger, hanging by an extension cord, hours after she did it. Despite the emotional trauma of seeing my best friend that way, there was nothing unsettling or gruesome about it, at all. She looked like she was just standing there, looking down, but sleeping. And yes, this was full suspension.

Sorry, no offense, but this seems like some weird troll post. I mean, come on, you deal with fire victims, car accidents, and whatnot, but immensely distressed people need to cover themselves with a sheet? As others have said, why even show up if you aren't checking if the victim is alive, and how do you do that when they are covered by a sheet?

This thread makes no fn sense. I'm calling bullshit.

 

[burninghill]

This is a really strange thread.

Joking to people wrestling with very real problems, like their own existence and how fuckin terrible of a state someone is in to be considering that is weird.

I mean, what are we talking about here? It's "cool to look like a ghost"?

And just how many people here are actually using such gruesome methods that it bothers you this much? Most people here aren't using shotguns or anything. Most are using SN, which isn't "gruesome" at all - at least not comparatively.

I'm not a first responder, never been in the military, or anything like that, and I discovered my wife of 24 years, not a stranger, hanging by an extension cord, hours after she did it. Despite the emotional trauma of seeing my best friend that way, there was nothing unsettling or gruesome about it, at all. She looked like she was just standing there, looking down, but sleeping. And yes, this was full suspension.

Sorry, no offense, but this seems like some weird troll post. I mean, come on, you deal with fire victims, car accidents, and whatnot, but immensely distressed people need to cover themselves with a sheet? As others have said, why even show up if you aren't checking if the victim is alive, and how do you do that when they are covered by a sheet?

This thread makes no fn sense. I'm calling bullshit.

I agree that this thread is really insensitive. I also initially thought it to be made by a troll.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I read this earlier and resisted replying but it's come up again and I just can't,

I think this take is really silly, I understand what you're saying but though this post seems to be criticising the selfishness of suicidal people for subjecting service workers to cleaning up their corpse (or having to view it), I also think it's pretty selfish to ask for someone in crisis to make their suffering more palettable to you.
I really doubt that there isn't heavy warnings when you sign up for a job like that in regards to the potential of seeing a dead body.
Someone is gonna have to see it regardless. If it's covered, the obstruction will have to be removed so the person can either be confirmed as deceased or resuscitated. You can't just cover up a body so 'they'll know theres a dead body under there', if you can't assess them, how do you know they're dead?

If you don't wanna see a dead body, don't work a job where you have to save people.
You think seeing a body would make you have a 'bad day'? Imagine the day the victim was having.

This is a troll thread. It makes no sense.

I discovered my own wife hanging and there was nothing "gruesome" about it. You're telling me someone who responds to horrific car wrecks, gang shootings, etc., is disturbed by someone using SN or hanging. GTFOH.

And what is even the point of responding if you can't remove a sheet to see if the person needs medical attention?

Something is way off about all of this. Great post.

 

[pumpkinboy]

I read this earlier and resisted replying but it's come up again and I just can't,

I think this take is really silly, I understand what you're saying but though this post seems to be criticising the selfishness of suicidal people for subjecting service workers to cleaning up their corpse (or having to view it), I also think it's pretty selfish to ask for someone in crisis to make their suffering more palettable to you.
I really doubt that there isn't heavy warnings when you sign up for a job like that in regards to the potential of seeing a dead body.
Someone is gonna have to see it regardless. If it's covered, the obstruction will have to be removed so the person can either be confirmed as deceased or resuscitated. You can't just cover up a body so 'they'll know theres a dead body under there', if you can't assess them, how do you know they're dead?

If you don't wanna see a dead body, don't work a job where you have to save people.
You think seeing a body would make you have a 'bad day'? Imagine the day the victim was having.

The people trained for that Can look at them

 

[GremlinCan56]

This is a troll thread. It makes no sense.

I discovered my own wife hanging and there was nothing "gruesome" about it. You're telling me someone who responds to horrific car wrecks, gang shootings, etc., is disturbed by someone using SN or hanging. GTFOH.

And what is even the point of responding if you can't remove a sheet to see if the person needs medical attention?

Something is way off about all of this. Great post.

Condolences for your wife, I'm sorry to hear about that.

 

[Fadenself00]

The people trained for that Can look at them

so what is the position you volunteer as? Breaking open doors, etc. together with the fire department(?)

 

[pumpkinboy]

This is a troll thread. It makes no sense.

I discovered my own wife hanging and there was nothing "gruesome" about it. You're telling me someone who responds to horrific car wrecks, gang shootings, etc., is disturbed by someone using SN or hanging. GTFOH.

And what is even the point of responding if you can't remove a sheet to see if the person needs medical attention?

Something is way off about all of this. Great post.

I don't think death is gruesome i think it's heartbreaking if you can I'm saying put a sheet over yourself makes cleaning up infinitely easier and like the medical professionals can still remove the sheet and identify the body

so what is the position you volunteer as? Breaking open doors, etc. together with the fire department(?)

I volunteer to clean and help maintain equipment i need atleast two years of employment to actually become a firefighter

 

[Fadenself00]

I don't think death is gruesome i think it's heartbreaking if you can I'm saying put a sheet over yourself makes cleaning up infinitely easier and like the medical professionals can still remove the sheet and identify the body

I'm assuming you're volunteering with the fire department and are quite emotionally impacted by calls where there's a deceased body, I get that. Then please ask a supervisor to have them cover up the body after they're done or something.

Because from what I understand, the cleanup where you are involved in, happens after the paramedics checked the person out.
I think if your community/co-volunteers look out for each other, they should be able to arrange something like that

 

[pumpkinboy]

This is a really strange thread.

Joking to people wrestling with very real problems, like their own existence and how fuckin terrible of a state someone is in to be considering that is weird.

I mean, what are we talking about here? It's "cool to look like a ghost"?

And just how many people here are actually using such gruesome methods that it bothers you this much? Most people here aren't using shotguns or anything. Most are using SN, which isn't "gruesome" at all - at least not comparatively.

I'm not a first responder, never been in the military, or anything like that, and I discovered my wife of 24 years, not a stranger, hanging by an extension cord, hours after she did it. Despite the emotional trauma of seeing my best friend that way, there was nothing unsettling or gruesome about it, at all. She looked like she was just standing there, looking down, but sleeping. And yes, this was full suspension.

Sorry, no offense, but this seems like some weird troll post. I mean, come on, you deal with fire victims, car accidents, and whatnot, but immensely distressed people need to cover themselves with a sheet? As others have said, why even show up if you aren't checking if the victim is alive, and how do you do that when they are covered by a sheet?

This thread makes no fn sense. I'm calling bullshit.

I don't deal with victims that's not my job i just help out whether i can and I'm allowed to you have the ability to control this and it's unfair this isn't just about my feelings i know for a fact it's hurting other first responders just as much as me and this simple thing to do would save people from so much heartbreak

just ask the professionals if they can do it(?) if you're having a difficult time viewing that. If you volunteer and are part of a community that is understanding, how about you talk to your supervisor(?)

Just wear a sheet if you can

 

[aufrechtm7]

I don't deal with victims that's not my job i just help out whether i can and I'm allowed to you have the ability to control this and it's unfair this isn't just about my feelings i know for a fact it's hurting other first responders just as much as me and this simple thing to do would save people from so much heartbreak

The possibility of dealing with the deceased is apart of the job. Sorry, but this is like telling people who get into catastrophic car accidents to pull off the road as to not create traffic.

 

[leloyon]

...meh. Fuck 'em, I won't be alive for that kinda thing to bother me.

Maybe I'm cold, but I can no longer care at this juncture. My life is nothing but suffering and making my suffering end comes first and foremost, I don't have time to care about what it does to others.

 

[pumpkinboy]

The possibility of dealing with the deceased is apart of the job. Sorry, but this is like telling people who get into catastrophic car accidents to pull off the road as to not create traffic.

Yeah i know it's apart of the job but when it can be avoided i wish it was avoided it's not fair and it's not a "well you work on a farm you are going to stand on shit" seeing dead bodies is heartbreaking and the majority of people I've talked to about it agree this is a job that has to be done i understand that deaths apart of the job but i really wish it wasn't and this is the least you can do

 

[Fadenself00]

this is the least you can do

excuse me what

 

[pumpkinboy]

excuse me what

Dude everytime I've gone to a restaurant I've stacked all my plates and cutlery so it'll be easier for whoever cleans them to clean them

 

[sourcherry]

Dude everytime I've gone to a restaurant I've stacked all my plates and cutlery so it'll be easier for whoever cleans them to clean them

yikes bruh

 

[Fadenself00]

This is a troll thread. It makes no sense.

I discovered my own wife hanging and there was nothing "gruesome" about it. You're telling me someone who responds to horrific car wrecks, gang shootings, etc., is disturbed by someone using SN or hanging. GTFOH.

And what is even the point of responding if you can't remove a sheet to see if the person needs medical attention?

Something is way off about all of this. Great post.

search for the persons posts via the search function. for sure seems like troll-territory

 

[pumpkinboy]

yikes bruh

It's about not making the job of who deals with the aftermath harder because this is traumatic