Venting I love ketamine and I hate society

[SuicidalDream]

I got ketamine infusions as a depression treatment for about 5 months. It helped me a lot. I believe my major depression might actually be cured. I still have other mental health issues, but I'm a lot more hopeful about my life than I was before.

I joined this website 2 years ago and my life has been a fucking rollercoaster since then. So much has changed and I was incredibly unstable through most of it. It's really weird and disturbing to think that my family's ability to afford expensive treatments is the reason I was able to start fixing my life and moving on. My family paid for my ketamine treatments out of pocket. They also paid co-pays and whatever on a variety of other things for my other health problems. Doctors ignored my physical health issues for a long time. I wouldn't have even gotten any diagnoses if I hadn't been able to afford appointments with specialists. My depression was cured because my family has money. That's great for me, but what about everyone else? Why can't everyone get access to treatments like this? Insurance doesn't cover ketamine infusions because they're not FDA approved for depression. The FDA approved s-ketamine nasal spray, which I asked a doctor at the clinic about. He said it's much less effective in treating depression.

We need a better system. Not just a better healthcare system, a better economic system. I'm too tired to elaborate on ideas i have about that.

I somehow managed to turn sharing a positive life update into ranting angrily about the fact that most people can't get the same help I got. Is that pessimism or righteous anger?
Should I have posted this in Recovery? I didn't think of that until now.

 

[poisonedminds]

you sound like a sweet soul. It's good to hear you that feel better.

 

[DownfallEnlightened]

how to get?

 

[valentine]

i really want to try ket infusions. can't really afford it right now, maybe some day. i'm glad it worked for you.

 

[Bullit]

Too late for me.

 

[DownfallEnlightened]

i really want to try ket infusions. can't really afford it right now, maybe some day. i'm glad it worked for you.

same. either that or rec use

 

[suicideseeker]

I'm genuinely pleased that you got out of this hole I'm in.

I talked to a local ketamine clinic they quoted me $6k a month for IV ketamine treatment and $20k a month for nasal treatment. They said insurance won't cover it at all unless I get recent doctor's documentation of trying 4/5 SSRI treatments because "the medication is expensive and they don't want to pay for it unless necessary". I used to take SSRIs for years but the documentation isn't recent enough.

It's cheaper for me to buy N and die then it is for me to get treatment that might work.

I reject this society and that's why I want to die. To make a point. That if you say life is worth living and you want to help, you have to provide the best help available and free of charge.

 

[WornOutLife]

Well, I'm glad you're feeling better somehow!

As for society, well, I know some amazing people but overall, humans beings really suck lol.

 

[baxter0]

Sounds like something you could DIY. Those prices are a downright scam

 

[LittleJem]

There are Ketamine treatment dosing protocols on Reddit. 30mg every other day insulfated is a good protocol. There is another protocol which is by weight - so for example I am 60Kg, so I do 60 mg (if I remember rightly). I am doing the 30 mg every other day protocol at the moment.£30 a gram on the street, £10,000 nasal spray which is why the NHS have decided not to offer it. Tragedy it won't be available widely for those in need. Go to the black market I say...

 

[alwaysSuffering]

Did you have any side effects from the infusions? I have been thinking about it for my PTSD. There is a place near me that does it.

 

[SuicidalDream]

Did you have any side effects from the infusions? I have been thinking about it for my PTSD. There is a place near me that does it.

I was tired and somewhat dizzy after the infusions. The first time I made the mistake of saying it was ok to wait until after to get the nausea meds (Zofran) and I vomited. After that I made sure to ask for the Zofran at the beginning and I didn't experience any nausea on it.

It's also important to remember that ketamine will amplify whatever emotions you're experiencing when it hits. Think happy thoughts in the minutes leading up to it. I made sure to do that every time and it was always a pleasant experience. There were definitely people there who had bad trips. Walls were thin enough that I heard screaming and crying sometimes.

 

[Reap94]

Humanity and life in general is a bad joke.

I hate all the songs that preach that you should love your mother.
Fuck mothers and parents in general.

 

[Snake of Eden]

There are Ketamine treatment dosing protocols on Reddit. 30mg every other day insulfated is a good protocol. There is another protocol which is by weight - so for example I am 60Kg, so I do 60 mg (if I remember rightly). I am doing the 30 mg every other day protocol at the moment.£30 a gram on the street, £10,000 nasal spray which is why the NHS have decided not to offer it. Tragedy it won't be available widely for those in need. Go to the black market I say...

i wish there is a guide in the dark web to show buy how to buy ketamine. Are you familiar with specific legit sources. If yes or you can think you can guide me how to look for it in the dark web could you please pm me?

 

[Reap94]

i wish there is a guide in the dark web to show buy how to buy ketamine. Are you familiar with specific legit sources. If yes or you can think you can guide me how to look for it in the dark web could you please pm me?

Do it right and get it prescribed by a doctor at least. I'm NOT for SSRI because they fry your brain but ketamine is just a horse tranq but still, you could get anything on the dw and at the doctor you know what you get.

I'm gonna try keta nasal too b4 i die
BUT ive seen big warning fingers for long use of ketamine. There is some organ in the body that takes the hit more, maybe it was the urine sack or something

 

[BrokenArrow]

i wish there is a guide in the dark web to show buy how to buy ketamine. Are you familiar with specific legit sources. If yes or you can think you can guide me how to look for it in the dark web could you please pm me?

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The 'Bible' will teach you everything you need to know about accessing the markets.

Use Monero, not Bitcoin.

 

[Snake of Eden]

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The 'Bible' will teach you everything you need to know about accessing the markets.

Use Monero, not Bitcoin.

I dont think i have access to monero. Im from saudi arabia. Thanks for sharing

Do it right and get it prescribed by a doctor at least. I'm NOT for SSRI because they fry your brain but ketamine is just a horse tranq but still, you could get anything on the dw and at the doctor you know what you get.

I'm gonna try keta nasal too b4 i die

It is not medically offered yet where I am from

I was tired and somewhat dizzy after the infusions. The first time I made the mistake of saying it was ok to wait until after to get the nausea meds (Zofran) and I vomited. After that I made sure to ask for the Zofran at the beginning and I didn't experience any nausea on it.

It's also important to remember that ketamine will amplify whatever emotions you're experiencing when it hits. Think happy thoughts in the minutes leading up to it. I made sure to do that every time and it was always a pleasant experience. There were definitely people there who had bad trips. Walls were thin enough that I heard screaming and crying sometimes.

Could you speak in detail how it changed your depressive mindset. Also what it feel like when you are receiving infusion and how long does the effects last and if you go back to being depressed in between treatement? For me i find it hard to believe it can truely cure someone from depression as in it would eradicate it from happening again. You are so lucky i am happy for you

 

[LittleJem]

i wish there is a guide in the dark web to show buy how to buy ketamine. Are you familiar with specific legit sources. If yes or you can think you can guide me how to look for it in the dark web could you please pm me?

I'm sorry, I did try but never mastered the dark web. Wish I could help. There are guides on SS to accessing the Dark Web. I found it complicated, but you might have luck.

 

[Reap94]

I was tired and somewhat dizzy after the infusions. The first time I made the mistake of saying it was ok to wait until after to get the nausea meds (Zofran) and I vomited. After that I made sure to ask for the Zofran at the beginning and I didn't experience any nausea on it.

It's also important to remember that ketamine will amplify whatever emotions you're experiencing when it hits. Think happy thoughts in the minutes leading up to it. I made sure to do that every time and it was always a pleasant experience. There were definitely people there who had bad trips. Walls were thin enough that I heard screaming and crying sometimes.

So you're using two methods of intake or what?

Infusion and nasal?

How do you infuse ketamine? You mean needle in veins?

 

[Annabella]

I got ketamine infusions as a depression treatment for about 5 months. It helped me a lot. I believe my major depression might actually be cured. I still have other mental health issues, but I'm a lot more hopeful about my life than I was before.

I joined this website 2 years ago and my life has been a fucking rollercoaster since then. So much has changed and I was incredibly unstable through most of it. It's really weird and disturbing to think that my family's ability to afford expensive treatments is the reason I was able to start fixing my life and moving on. My family paid for my ketamine treatments out of pocket. They also paid co-pays and whatever on a variety of other things for my other health problems. Doctors ignored my physical health issues for a long time. I wouldn't have even gotten any diagnoses if I hadn't been able to afford appointments with specialists. My depression was cured because my family has money. That's great for me, but what about everyone else? Why can't everyone get access to treatments like this? Insurance doesn't cover ketamine infusions because they're not FDA approved for depression. The FDA approved s-ketamine nasal spray, which I asked a doctor at the clinic about. He said it's much less effective in treating depression.

We need a better system. Not just a better healthcare system, a better economic system. I'm too tired to elaborate on ideas i have about that.

I somehow managed to turn sharing a positive life update into ranting angrily about the fact that most people can't get the same help I got. Is that pessimism or righteous anger?
Should I have posted this in Recovery? I didn't think of that until now.

Did you have anhedonia type depression? (no feelings, no ambition)? I have this type of depression + weird as hell Inflammation in the brain. It kinda feels like my head broke... Btw good that you got it treated, I didn't treat mine and it got worse.
Btw you had luck because your family was open minded. Mine is the "keep everything under the rug man" type and I can't fully blame them though.

 

[PursuitofWonder]

I got ketamine infusions as a depression treatment for about 5 months. It helped me a lot. I believe my major depression might actually be cured. I still have other mental health issues, but I'm a lot more hopeful about my life than I was before.

I joined this website 2 years ago and my life has been a fucking rollercoaster since then. So much has changed and I was incredibly unstable through most of it. It's really weird and disturbing to think that my family's ability to afford expensive treatments is the reason I was able to start fixing my life and moving on. My family paid for my ketamine treatments out of pocket. They also paid co-pays and whatever on a variety of other things for my other health problems. Doctors ignored my physical health issues for a long time. I wouldn't have even gotten any diagnoses if I hadn't been able to afford appointments with specialists. My depression was cured because my family has money. That's great for me, but what about everyone else? Why can't everyone get access to treatments like this? Insurance doesn't cover ketamine infusions because they're not FDA approved for depression. The FDA approved s-ketamine nasal spray, which I asked a doctor at the clinic about. He said it's much less effective in treating depression.

We need a better system. Not just a better healthcare system, a better economic system. I'm too tired to elaborate on ideas i have about that.

I somehow managed to turn sharing a positive life update into ranting angrily about the fact that most people can't get the same help I got. Is that pessimism or righteous anger?
Should I have posted this in Recovery? I didn't think of that until now.

I'm considering trying this, how much was it per session? I'm on a waitlist to try the spray kind but it's about 30 days out. I hate the idea of burdening my family even more but damn I feel like I need to do something. Also keep in mind that the people who talk about how ineffective the spray one is are nearly always the ones who already do IV services, and you can probably guess which out of the two has the best profit margins.

 

[tryingtoescape]

The intranasal form of Ketamine: Esketamine is less expensive and usually covered by insurance. It feels like dying, in a good way. My doctor is reducing the frequency of treatment. It feels really amazing but the effects are short term for me for anxiety unfortunately. No more than 2 hours, and then I'm back to feeling terrified as usual.

 

[Deleted member 32964]

These help me when used religiously and taken seriously: kale smoothies and exercise. Lots and lots of ginger and tumeric. Salmon oil (wow, what a difference for mental health - proven to be effective in bipolar types), St. John's Wort, Spirulina (loads of energy) a plant based diet with lots and lots of seeds, nuts and proteins like beans and lentils, passion flower extract for sleep, lemon-balm tea for sleeplessness, ashwaganda for calm / anxiety.

Once I'm off my "meds" and off of the treadmill - I may as well call it quits and become a homeless crackhead. It's that important for me to do naturopath stuff - meds make me PSYCHOTIC. I've come to standing on top of my own dresser covered with splotches of white paint no idea who i am, wandering down the middle of the road. I won't use them. I'm looking for a problem.

I am considering taking myself to a shelter soon if my regular routine doesn't fall into place so that i'm FORCED to do adult healthy things and don't wallow in my own shit all day.

 

[LucieInTheDark]

Capitalism doesn't care about our grievances. Depressed people don't matter, we're the people who fall between the cracks of the system and end up taking our own lives because our brains aren't wired to participate in this society. Unless you get lucky like OP this is pretty much a death sentence

 

[SunnyPotato]

I tried to do a little self administered protocol but I just got blasted for a few days lol

 

[TheEndTimes]

In the before times, I had been getting ketamine from a dealer paying $100 a gram. It was helpful for my depression. My was dealer was also selling meth and went to jail. I tried finding another dealer with no luck, including a terrifying scrape with a really fucked up, twisted fucker.

I discovered on Reddit that compounding pharmacies could distribute it. I told my psychiatrist and she said brightly, "I can do that for you." Now I have a prescription and pay $20/gram for medical grade K, which comes in a powder that I insufflate, and get it from a compounding pharmacy three blocks from place.

 

[beingzettt]

Dude I've been depressed and in physical pain since 4 years, everyone in my family watches me and ignores(which burns my blood, they force me to live with them, fuck my life upside down and dont wanna give treatment plus they took away everything i had to keep myself busy) And when I go out people laught at me. Mental illness is a joke in India