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DiscussionI just need to convince myself I won’t go to hell
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That's it that's all I need. I grew up a moderately religious Muslim and until recently I prayed everyday. But I still believe in a god that could potentially send me to hell for eternity. It's the only thing stopping me
It must be so dreadful having those fears. I'm sorry that you have to deal with this. I don't believe that there is anything after this life personally, I believe death to be true peace where nothing can hurt us. I wish you relief from suffering.
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I don't believe there is a hell, God or not. Rest assured a loving God would never invent a place to inflict eternal suffering on his creations. That's a fear tactic to brainwash people. I don't know much about the Muslim religion, but upon research regarding the concept of hell, it's bullshit fear mongering.
I hope that doesn't come across as arrogant, it's just what I've gathered.
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That's it that's all I need. I grew up a moderately religious Muslim and until recently I prayed everyday. But I still believe in a god that could potentially send me to hell for eternity. It's the only thing stopping
That said, I watched 2005 Constantine last night (for the first time) and the hell expressed in that film is pretty terrifying. Suicide is a one-way trip, no way out, endeavor in that film and it made me stop and think for a minute.
Same thing in "What Dreams May Come" re: suicide.
My point is, it that's your belief, that's got to be seriously frightening.
None of us who don't believe can't say anything that could truly change your mind or be soothing.
For me, I believe in reincarnation and I sometimes wonder if I end my life, will I have failed in a way I have to repeat the same abuse and neglect all over again.
It must be so dreadful having those fears. I'm sorry that you have to deal with this. I don't believe that there is anything after this life personally, I believe death to be true peace where nothing can hurt us. I wish you relief from suffering.
It truly is. It's like i have to wrestle my logic against the "rules" of an invisible God.
Constantly trying to justify myself, hours of taking to God (which is essentially me talking to myself).. it just makes me feel so crazy for believing this. But I will surely die by my own hand. I will not suffer 30-40 more years of being hopeless and lost.
Não sei se te conforta , mas eu me acalmo quando que se existe um Deus Ele conhece o meu coração, sabe das minhas angústias e sofrimento. Assim como sabe o quão pesado está para mim. Isso me ajuda. Só Ele para mim julgar. Deus é amor é misericórdia. Se existe inferno, deve ser aqui.
That's it that's all I need. I grew up a moderately religious Muslim and until recently I prayed everyday. But I still believe in a god that could potentially send me to hell for eternity. It's the only thing stopping me
Hell is for the living. They just wanted to scare their slaves into staying alive. They were quick to promise virgins in heaven if we die for their cause... Damn I wish someone gave me a firework vest. I'd like to say hi to the cops who said that i deserved to be beaten
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That's it that's all I need. I grew up a moderately religious Muslim and until recently I prayed everyday. But I still believe in a god that could potentially send me to hell for eternity. It's the only thing stopping me
I am not a religious person, so take this for what you will.
My understanding of God is that the relationship between you and this being is deeply personal. You, and you alone, know how you talk to God and live a life that mirrors those values. Our current religious structures are designed largely around the human influence of it all. We are centuries removed from the time the events in those books allegedly happened. These are books, written by men, to help us organize our thoughts and ourselves. They're fallible. None of it can be proved. None of the events that set those stores into motion. So it stands that none of those consequences can be proved either.
Only you can decide what God means to you and who that being is. You don't have to participate in the collective acceptance of what the old books say. No one can assure that you're not going to hell, the same as no one can assure you that that place even exists. I don't personally believe it does, but I am sensitive to your struggles here. If you ultimately believe that Hell exists and that's where you'll go, that sounds like a relevant factor to consider when you're deciding how you want your life to play out. These things take some thinking through.
For what it's worth, I hope you are able to resolve this internal struggle within you as soon as you can. You deserve that peace.
I never interpreted God as someone who sends suicidal people to hell. Hell is for legitimately evil people like murderers, sadists, abusers etc. Not for people who felt so much pain that they couldn't take it anymore. If anything you might be sent to purgatory but definitely not hell.
Also suicide only became a sin in the medieval times, from what I remember the Bible doesn't say anything about suicide being a sin.
In some cultures suicide used to be considered as an act of honour, like in ancient Japan.
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I also do have to convince myself that I won't go to hell which is part of why I don't have the guts to kill myself alongside not knowing what will be after I die. I am with you on that one.
That's it that's all I need. I grew up a moderately religious Muslim and until recently I prayed everyday. But I still believe in a god that could potentially send me to hell for eternity. It's the only thing stopping me
I am not Muslim but I believe in one God(Allah) don't forget God is a God of mercy I believe no body go to hell for ctb. There is a great word in prayer in Islam " al Rahman al rahim" it shows the vastness of Allah's mercy to his creatures. You can rely on that for ctb at least.
While personally I don't believe in a God god, I think it's possible that there's a consciousness or whatever. What I think specifically isn't important, but I just wanted to share where I'm coming from. So I don't know if this concept will be as helpful to you or other believers in monotheistic/hell-including religions as it has been to me, but I would encourage you to look up and read about the many many documented near death experiences people have described. There are a small percentage who have experienced distressing NDEs, but even of that small percentage there are very very few who report any idea of "hell". People who attempted suicide and were revived are not at all more likely to report an unpleasant NDE. There's a ton of information out there, too much to summarize for a post, and I think you'd be much more confident doing your own research anyways. I know this doesn't really guarantee anything post-life or post-death, but I've always been reassured by trying to know people's experiences. I can only hope it helps you in some way. Best of luck.
I'm an ex-muslim, i can help you getting rid of any faith that you may have in islam, i know that a lot of people suffer from indoctrination, and i know this experience because i myself didn't suicide earlier due to my faith in islam, don't fear allah, allah is uncable of doing anything, he can't harm you, he can't do anything to you, he's nothing but an illusion that resembles satan, you don't have to fear evil
I never believed in God. If there's god, he's a sadistic being, pure evil.
But even if I'm not religious, sometimes even I have this fear of the unknown. Because no one can tell you for sure what will happen after death. But living is too painful, so I guess I should take that risk.
Most likely though, there is nothing after you die. Just the same as you weren't born yet.
This is a sign. I am a voice from beyond the dimension you currently exist. Listen to my words and take heed! Hell is not reall. Its a scare tactic developed by the catholic church and the 1st council of nicea for obedience and profit. You will not go there.
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