Venting I fucking hate transphobia so much

[coolgal82]

Mkay I don't feel comfortable with the thought of chemically castrating children and don't know why you're so fixated on them getting drugs instead of regular therapy but okay.

Because as a trans person i empathise with them and want their transition to go as well as possible which puberty blockers help with, also idk what you mean "instead of regular therapy" they should probably have that too but that alone wont solve all the issues. Again go read the stuff i linked or fuck off lmao

 

[Dot]

Mkay I don't feel comfortable with the thought of chemically castrating children and don't know why you're so fixated on them getting drugs instead of regular therapy but okay.

"Insted of"

If u thnk tht all gendr dysphria wll jst b fixd wth therpy thn u d/ nt undrstnd gendr dysphria

 

[coolgal82]

"Insted of"

If u thnk tht all gendr dysphria wll jst b fixd wth therpy thn u d/ nt undrstnd gendr dysphria

Exactly lmao if it could be fixed with therapy then i'd be all over that i fucking wish it could be lmao transitioning is annoying and not fun but its better than not doing it still atleast

 

[yowai]

"Insted of"

If u thnk tht all gendr dysphria wll jst b fixd wth therpy thn u d/ nt undrstnd gendr dysphria

I do since I thought I was trans myself and starved to get rid of my boobs. Turns out I was just autistic and it's normal to hate your body during puberty, doesn't mean you have to get on meds that might disturb hormones and get side effects even after changing your mind.

 

[Dot]

I do since I thought I was trans myself and starved to get rid of my boobs. Turns out I was just autistic and it's normal to hate your body during puberty, doesn't mean you have to get on meds that might disturb hormones and get side effects even after changing your mind.

Ok - = gd tht u wre givn propr treatmnt bt nt evry1 wll hve th/ sme undr-lyng causs tht u hd

= gd tht ur undrlyng causs wre identfid b4 reachng medcatn stge bt tht ds nt say tht medcatns wld nt b appropri8 fr othr ppl

 

[coolgal82]

I do since I thought I was trans myself and starved to get rid of my boobs. Turns out I was just autistic and it's normal to hate your body during puberty, doesn't mean you have to get on meds that might disturb hormones and get side effects even after changing your mind.

Hating your body during puberty in is different from being trans lmao and like thats exactly what the point of puberty blockers are, to put a pause on it to determine if its just normal hating or something else, and most of the side effects of it are either from taking them for too long (any bone issues are that) or tolerable (the hot flushes, i was on them for a bit just to like make sure i was trans before taking hormones and the hot flushes were kind of annoying but not that bad, and they stopped once i got on estrogen)

Just because it wasnt that for you doesnt mean its the same for all trans people. Your experience is not universal.

Also consider the side effects of going through irreversible changes through puberty that couldve been prevented and that child having to watch their body change more and more as it feels more and more wrong knowing that it could be stopped but some people with an agenda and no empathy said theyre not allowed to stop it

 

[Dai]

are the "normal people" in the room with us? who are you talking about?

oh I see how this could appear now that I look back. English is my second language but meant "normal people" such like non extremist politically. Far right and far left.

 

[yxmux]

First off , I'm not looking to start a fight, just want to get some understanding from an alternative viewpoint. Please don't pile on me or I'll tell you to fuck off.

What I remembering the 70's, 80's, and 90's was that the "T" stood for "transvestite"- a guy who knew he was a guy but liked dressing up in women's clothing. Fast forward 30 years and T" stands for transgender.

Serious question as I want to understand-if someone has anorexia (sp), we don't encourage them to continue to lose weight because they are fat. We tell them that they have a mental condition and treat it as such.

I truly want to understand- is transgender a mental issue, and should be treated as such?

Cue the wave of hate coming down on me…

I will speak based on what I know about the subject.

There are generally three separate concepts when we refer to "gender": sex, perceived gender, and gender identity. I am not including gender roles. Sex is the biological component. There are two "kinds" of sex: sexual genotype and sexual phenotype. Sexual genotype describes the complete set of genetic material located in the sex chromosomes. This does not merely refer to the shape or karyotype of the chromosomes (e.g., XX, XY, etc.) but also the genes inside them. Sexual phenotype describes observable physiology with respect to sexual genotype, or the set of characteristics that may be naturally caused by a genotype. We may also describe it as a vector of individual characteristics, each one being either "masculine" (more resembling genetic expression in genes in XY than XX) or "feminine" (more resembling genetic expression in genes in XX than XY) in varying scales depending on how strongly the genes or some combinations of genes corresponding to the characteristic are expressed. If we were to add up these values on this vector, the sum will very likely either be significantly leaning masculine or significantly leaning feminine due to most humans having exclusively either XX or XY in their karyotypes with their phenotypes strongly resembling genetic expression in either or. In other words, sex characteristics are generally distributed with two modes which correspond to male and female. Perceived gender is essentially an observer's subconscious evaluation of someone's sex based on what they can see, which includes phenotype as well as any sort of cultural biases. Gender identity is the gender, be it sex or perceived gender, that is concordant with one's ego or self-concept outside any interference from other disorders.

The definiting trait of trans people is that their gender identity is incongruous with their sex and perceived gender. Their gender is discordant with their ego. This itself is not a "disorder" or of causing clinically significant disturbance since this does not define anything intrinsically symptomatic. That is what gender dysphoria is: a persistant state of dysphoria causally attributed to being trans, which, as it is used clinically/diagnostically, is significant. This is not implying that trans people without gender dysphoria should not have access to the same treatment, by the way. That is a different debate. I am only describing its diagnostic usage.

 

[H0110W]

I wonder, why won't you just leave the kids alone.
I also wonder how this topic is related to suicide at all.

Just go back to reddit with this inflammatory political bullshit.

 

[coolgal82]

I wonder, why won't you just leave the kids alone.
I also wonder how this topic is related to suicide at all.

Just go back to reddit with this inflammatory political bullshit.

because i dont want the kids to suffer
also its very related because rising transphobia is a factor in suicide for some people