I drank .6 g of sn

[rabbithole]

And got a headache and nausea. No vomiting. It took hours for any symptoms to show up. It seems if I drank nearly a gram and nothing else happened the sn probably isn't pure. Arghhhh. I wish I had access to LW sn. Idk if anyone has successfully ctb with HM sn.

just venting. I know trying sn is dumb it was an impulsive self harm thing. I'm usually not impulsive at all but as the trauma increases I am wanting to escape more and more.

 

[Kruger]

I thought the recommended dose was 25grams?

 

[Lastsauce]

https://bjgp.org/content/bjgp/40/340/470.full.pdf

This poor nurse died from 1 gram of SN.

 

[mimiopo22]

E ho mal di testa e nausea. Nessun vomito. Ci sono volute ore prima che i sintomi si manifestassero. Sembra che se ho bevuto quasi un grammo e non è successo nient'altro, probabilmente lo sn non è puro. Arghhhh. Vorrei avere accesso a LW sn. Idk se qualcuno ha eseguito con successo ctb con HM sn.

solo sfogo. So che provare sn è stupido, è stata una cosa impulsiva di autolesionismo. Di solito non sono affatto impulsivo, ma con l'aumentare del trauma desidero scappare sempre di più.

what is lw and hm?

 

[Nymph]

What's the purity of your SN?

 

[issyishere]

.6 grams is a very very small amount so i'm not sure exactly what the concern is here.

 

[greyhound]

On an empty stomach?

 

[Meditation guide]

g. I know trying sn is dumb

I don't think it's that dumb tbh. I think you did an important experiment. May I ask what you weigh? Did you notice if your finger tips were blue?

We had a man who weighed over 300 pounds who took 1.5 hours to notice any symptoms on 25 grams of SN. He then had a very peaceful exit.

How each person's body processes SN varies widely.

The dental nurse in that article had only "methaemoglobinaemia was 35%," and some have had much higher levels of methaemoglobinaemia and survived. One man took over 100 grams of SN and survived, with hospital support.
So it's not a good way to tell how potent SN is, by your symptoms.

The fact you did eventually have nausea and a headache shows it's potent.

 

[rabbithole]

.6 grams is a very very small amount so i'm not sure exactly what the concern is here.

People have died from 1 gram so I thought there would be more of a reaction is all.

 

[Sherri]

Don't play with fire I heard people ctb with 2g

 

[rabbithole]

I don't think it's that dumb tbh. I think you did an important experiment. May I ask what you weigh? Did you notice if your finger tips were blue?

We had a man who weighed over 300 pounds who took 1.5 hours to notice any symptoms on 25 grams of SN. He then had a very peaceful exit.

How each person's body processes SN varies widely.

The dental nurse in that article had only "methaemoglobinaemia was 35%," and some have had much higher levels of methaemoglobinaemia and survived. One man took over 100 grams of SN and survived, with hospital support.
So it's not a good way to tell how potent SN is, by your symptoms.

The fact you did eventually have nausea and a headache shows it's potent.

Noo I checked my fingertips no blue tint. I'm 49kgs or 108lbs. I really wish I knew how long it would take and what to expect. It seems to vary so much. I don't think I'll have time alone and will have to risk doing it while my family sleeps I think. My car broke down and that's where I planned to do it.

thanks for the info and for not judging me trying it! I did a blood test also and it did turn brown but I didn't have enough blood to see how dark it was. Going to try again. I just want it to work the way it has for some users here. I'd like to pass in 45 minutes or less.

On an empty stomach?

No, full stomach. I'm just not thinking straight because of the depression and anxiety so I'm making dumb impulsive decisions.

What's the purity of your SN?

Supposedly 98%

I thought the recommended dose was 25grams?

It is, sorry for the confusion. I've heard of people dying from 1 gram so I thought taking half of what's been lethal before would have more of a dramatic reaction I guess.

 

[Meditation guide]

thanks for the info and for not judging me trying it!

No judging here! I can understand it. I have been gathering info for months now on this.
I see that it's usually within half an hour and people lose consciousness within ten minutes generally.

 

[issyishere]

People have died from 1 gram so I thought there would be more of a reaction is all.

From what I've read it seems you did have SN but the purity is not for certain. Headaches are a sign of mild hypoxia which is oxygen deprivation, nausea is consistent with SN. Maybe you were expecting more but I personally would have used that as evidence it is real. Hope this helps

 

[greyhound]

Noo I checked my fingertips no blue tint. I'm 49kgs or 108lbs. I really wish I knew how long it would take and what to expect. It seems to vary so much. I don't think I'll have time alone and will have to risk doing it while my family sleeps I think. My car broke down and that's where I planned to do it.

thanks for the info and for not judging me trying it! I did a blood test also and it did turn brown but I didn't have enough blood to see how dark it was. Going to try again. I just want it to work the way it has for some users here. I'd like to pass in 45 minutes or less.

No, full stomach. I'm just not thinking straight because of the depression and anxiety so I'm making dumb impulsive decisions.

Supposedly 98%

It is, sorry for the confusion. I've heard of people dying from 1 gram so I thought taking half of what's been lethal before would have more of a dramatic reaction I guess.

I would guess the potency is fine but the fact that you took it on a full stomach is the reason the effects were so delayed/mild.

 

[Aap]

Shit, not more of these posts. What was the purpose? The effects of SN are well known and documented. It has provided you with absolutely no new information, as the effects of a small dose on a full stomach aren't necessarily what is to be expected on a higher dose.

Simply because you didn't vomit with this has zero impact on whether you will vomit with a higher dose. There used to be more of posts like this, and it seemed half were either attention seeking or designed to scare people into "SN is the worst pain imaginable."

 

[Nymph]

Shit, not more of these posts. What was the purpose? The effects of SN are well known and documented. It has provided you with absolutely no new information, as the effects of a small dose on a full stomach aren't necessarily what is to be expected on a higher dose.

Simply because you didn't vomit with this has zero impact on whether you will vomit with a higher dose. There used to be more of posts like this, and it seemed half were either attention seeking or designed to scare people into "SN is the worst pain imaginable."

They said it was for selfharm, I don't think they were testing it or something but idk. I know which posts you mean but I don't think this one was like those

 

[TAW122]

Given the variability of SN and how the body processes substances, I'm still opting for the firearm method personally since it is more or less instant (and painless if done correctly with the right caliber). The upside is SN is less messy (excluding the vomiting) than firearms.

 

[Maka hiamoe]

And got a headache and nausea. No vomiting. It took hours for any symptoms to show up. It seems if I drank nearly a gram and nothing else happened the sn probably isn't pure.

I also took exactly the same amount (0.6g) some time ago. For me it also took a while for any symptom to show up (3 hours). Then suddenly I got nauseous and started vomiting 2 minutes later, vomited a second time 45 minutes later, and vomited a third and last time 45 minutes later. Even if you didn't get as sick as I did, it's possible your SN may still be pure as everyone's body reacts differently.

 

[Aap]

Again, this is stupid. It is easy to test SN without taking it. SN has verified, unvarying effects on he body. Zero people on earth are immune to the effects. To suggest there is significant variability in the main effect (inducing methemaglobinemia) would be to suggest some humans have fundamentally different blood, red blood cells, and hemoglobin.

 

[Deleted member 22624]

Shit, not more of these posts. What was the purpose? The effects of SN are well known and documented. It has provided you with absolutely no new information, as the effects of a small dose on a full stomach aren't necessarily what is to be expected on a higher dose.

Simply because you didn't vomit with this has zero impact on whether you will vomit with a higher dose. There used to be more of posts like this, and it seemed half were either attention seeking or designed to scare people into "SN is the worst pain imaginable."

@Meditation guide's enthusiasm for experiments. Your persistent dismissal of pain and suffering caused by this method. What is actually going on here? Wtf?

 

[Aap]

I'm not dismissive in the slightest of pain and suffering. It is absolutely pointless and counterproductive to "test" SN. Period. The symptoms are well known and documented. There is ZERO to be gained from testing. You cannot compare a small dose with one that will rapidly incapacitate.

There is no individual variability in the main effect. Simply because one does or doesn't vomit with a small dose has no bearing on a larger one. This site used to be flooded with attention seeking and scare posts that were obviously bullshit about taking some small amount followed by evasiveness and endless hand wringing.

 

[Meditation guide]

@Meditation guide's enthusiasm for experiments.

Why not cut people some slack? He did it and reported it to us. He didn't have to tell anyone.

 

[Aap]

You seem to forget the influx of posts like this with the occasional cryptic "it was the worst pain imaginable" posts which only serve to garner attention for the OP and fear for everyone else. People are free to test it, as am I to point out the futility and harm "testing" does.

 

[ob600]

@Meditation guide's enthusiasm for experiments. Your persistent dismissal of pain and suffering caused by this method. What is actually going on here? Wtf?

How painful is this method?

 

[rabbithole]

Shit, not more of these posts. What was the purpose? The effects of SN are well known and documented. It has provided you with absolutely no new information, as the effects of a small dose on a full stomach aren't necessarily what is to be expected on a higher dose.

Simply because you didn't vomit with this has zero impact on whether you will vomit with a higher dose. There used to be more of posts like this, and it seemed half were either attention seeking or designed to scare people into "SN is the worst pain imaginable."

Are you a mod? You seem to come to everyone's post with some holier than thou pseudo intellectual attitude. It's gross.

im not attention seeking and the pain wasn't bad at all, just uncomfortable. I did it impulsively and then made a post because I'm lonely af (imagine that, being on a suicide forum) and wanted to vent.

How painful is this method?

I imagine it's not entirely peaceful, even if protocol is followed to the letter, because of the nausea/vomiting and headache. But supposedly you lose consciousness at some point (it seems to vary quite a bit). I imagine it also isn't horrendous pain. This is all speculation based on reading other people's accounts on here though and my own stupid experiment.

You seem to forget the influx of posts like this with the occasional cryptic "it was the worst pain imaginable" posts which only serve to garner attention for the OP and fear for everyone else. People are free to test it, as am I to point out the futility and harm "testing" does.

It wasn't at all futile for me because it was a test of the experience and made me feel way more capable of finally "pulling the trigger" on taking the actual recommended dose.

I think it's the same idea as people trying partial suspension without committing to it fully. It lets you test your SI and get closer to overcoming it.

 

[Meditation guide]

Are you a mod? You seem to come to everyone's post with some holier than thou pseudo intellectual attitude. It's gross.

im not attention seeking and the pain wasn't bad at all, just uncomfortable. I did it impulsively and then made a post because I'm lonely af (imagine that, being on a suicide forum) and wanted to vent.

I imagine it's not entirely peaceful, even if protocol is followed to the letter, because of the nausea/vomiting and headache. But supposedly you lose consciousness at some point (it seems to vary quite a bit). I imagine it also isn't horrendous pain. This is all speculation based on reading other people's accounts on here though and my own stupid experiment.

It wasn't at all futile for me because it was a test of the experience and made me feel way more capable of finally "pulling the trigger" on taking the actual recommended dose.

I think it's the same idea as people trying partial suspension without committing to it fully. It lets you test your SI and get closer to overcoming it.

Thank you for telling us. Any information we can get is welcome.

 

[rabbithole]

Thank you for telling us. Any information we can get is welcome.

No problem. I'm only not committed to the full dose because I fear I will wake my family up with the vomiting. Plus normal SI getting in the way...but it's worn down to next to nothing now.

 

[Meditation guide]

No problem. I'm only not committed to the full dose because I fear I will wake my family up with the vomiting. Plus normal SI getting in the way...but it's worn down to next to nothing now.

Someone posted something recently about trying out small ways of warming up to the final exit method so this makes perfect sense to me.
I remember Letz did it this way. He tried it a few times in small doses first.

 

[rabbithole]

I'm not dismissive in the slightest of pain and suffering. It is absolutely pointless and counterproductive to "test" SN. Period. The symptoms are well known and documented. There is ZERO to be gained from testing. You cannot compare a small dose with one that will rapidly incapacitate.

There is no individual variability in the main effect. Simply because one does or doesn't vomit with a small dose has no bearing on a larger one. This site used to be flooded with attention seeking and scare posts that were obviously bullshit about taking some small amount followed by evasiveness and endless hand wringing.

The variability is in the purity of sn imo. Someone on here said one bottle from the manufacturer I bought from was a dud so this was a way to test it. A dumb way, sure. It was also impulsive and really just self harm. I posted about it because I always look for any new info on sn when I come on here - even if everything I'm going to ever need to know has already been posted - it's just a habit when I'm searching for some comfort that my death won't be terrifying. So I thought other people might be doing the same and want to know.

 

[Aap]

Do you know anything about the purity? Would you have reacted differently if it was only 50% pure? Again, you don't know anything more than you started. Do you even know if you consumed SN or something that caused a headache and nausea?A blood test or aquarium nitrite test would have told you as much or more.

like I said, test away. My issue is not with you specifically. I'll continue to state it is a bad idea, provides no useful data (as the symptoms and effects are well known), can be tested in a qualitative manner without consuming it, and has led to much mischief and concern in prior posting.

I'll point out this obsession with SN testing doesn't carry over to say N or propranolol. Calling me holier than thou is rich, and pseudo intellectual is just as good. If you can't attack facts, by all means attack the messenger.

Personal attacks are frowned upon, and by all means click the report button (not on yourself for personally attacking me) if you feel I've done something wrong.