throwaway123

throwaway123

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Aug 5, 2018
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With all these people. Evil and cruel. Just today I was reminded of what is really going on. I literally couldn't believe my eyes. It was like I was in some kind of movie about a dystopia. I just don't understand how people can be so ignorant and selfish but most important of all EVIL. Pure evil. I can't find the words. I'm still in shock. This world and it's people. I no longer want to part of this "society". Ceasing to exist is a million times better than living this miserable life.
 
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Tiburcio

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They just endure this because shit conforms with shit. And sometimes.
 
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couldntthinkofaname

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Aug 31, 2018
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they have the sufficient brain chemistry for it
 
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GoingSoonish

GoingSoonish

It is what it is
Aug 19, 2018
126
Every single day around 20,000 people starve to death because they have no food. There is enough food in the world to feed everybody. All our gadgets (smartphones, computers etc) were made by people who are living in horrific circumstances. Don't even get me started on all the misery that humans put other animals through.

People seem to be indifferent to suffering. Either not caring about it or just shutting their eyes to it to protect the rosy image of life (an illusion) that they rely on to get through each day of their lives. It's all very depressing and strange.
 
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RoloTomasi

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Jul 21, 2018
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I think some are just dealt better hands. We simply played ours, we are not fully to blame as to why we got to this low point of our lives.
 
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maktubler

maktubler

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May 22, 2018
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What happened today?
 
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RM5998

RM5998

Sack of Meat
Sep 3, 2018
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With all these people. Evil and cruel. Just today I was reminded of what is really going on. I literally couldn't believe my eyes. It was like I was in some kind of movie about a dystopia. I just don't understand how people can be so ignorant and selfish but most important of all EVIL. Pure evil. I can't find the words. I'm still in shock. This world and it's people. I no longer want to part of this "society". Ceasing to exist is a million times better than living this miserable life.

Evil and good are determined by utility. Moral absolutism doesn't exist - values are dependent on the need of the average mass to maintain an unconscious existence driven purely by survival instinct. And sometimes, things that are called evil become good because of utility. The words and ideas there are empty and meaningless. They'll keep floating based on what people need them to be.
 
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throwaway123

throwaway123

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Evil and good are determined by utility. Moral absolutism doesn't exist - values are dependent on the need of the average mass to maintain an unconscious existence driven purely by survival instinct. And sometimes, things that are called evil become good because of utility. The words and ideas there are empty and meaningless. They'll keep floating based on what people need them to be.
So you don't believe in an objective morality?
 
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couldntthinkofaname

couldntthinkofaname

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Aug 31, 2018
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Evil and good are determined by utility. Moral absolutism doesn't exist - values are dependent on the need of the average mass to maintain an unconscious existence driven purely by survival instinct. And sometimes, things that are called evil become good because of utility. The words and ideas there are empty and meaningless. They'll keep floating based on what people need them to be.


ofc moral, good and evil is a human invention to organize society

its not natural, made up by humans

nature dont know good and evil, only survival of the fittest
 
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Sep 5, 2018
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They don't suffer as much
 
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throwaway123

throwaway123

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Aug 5, 2018
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ofc moral, good and evil is a human invention to organize society

its not natural, made up by humans

nature dont know good and evil, only survival of the fittest

Evil and good are determined by utility. Moral absolutism doesn't exist - values are dependent on the need of the average mass to maintain an unconscious existence driven purely by survival instinct. And sometimes, things that are called evil become good because of utility. The words and ideas there are empty and meaningless. They'll keep floating based on what people need them to be.

You're all way into the philosophical stuff. Go outside, see the world with your own eyes. Would you be ok with being tortured every day? How would you feel if I enjoy seeing you suffer? I'm sick of this endless talk. Always the same bullshit. Everyone has to be the special snowflake. Get off your mind trip. You're just another human.
 
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bigj75

bigj75

“From Knowledge springs power."
Sep 1, 2018
2,540
You're all way into the philosophical stuff. Go outside, see the world with your own eyes. Would you be ok with being tortured every day? How would you feel if I enjoy seeing you suffer? I'm sick of this endless talk. Always the same bullshit. Everyone has to be the special snowflake. Get off your mind trip. You're just another human.
the survival of the fittest does matter but you can't go overboard with it. The whole 7 dearly sins thing really would be helpful to the world if people followed it even if God isn't real.
 
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Circles

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Sep 3, 2018
2,297
Every single day around 20,000 people starve to death because they have no food. There is enough food in the world to feed everybody. All our gadgets (smartphones, computers etc) were made by people who are living in horrific circumstances. Don't even get me started on all the misery that humans put other animals through.

People seem to be indifferent to suffering. Either not caring about it or just shutting their eyes to it to protect the rosy image of life (an illusion) that they rely on to get through each day of their lives. It's all very depressing and strange.
And yet how can I especially somebody who doesn't even care for themselves care about the suffering of others? Don't get me wrong I'm am sympathetic for all creatures who will feel pain, suffer, and then die but I have no control over what happens. This world is a meat grinder and Life itself the butcher. It has been playing the same life script bullshit since the beginning relentlessly. "Death created time to grow the things it would kill" -as Rust Cohle puts it. We are all trapped inside layers of prisons: this body, our consciousness, society, death etc. I figured I didn't create this world and the universe doesn't gives two shits about me so why should I give a shit about it? It fucking sucks and I hate sounding pessimistic but what can I do about it? Why do you think some of us are suicidal? Cause it's about the control we never got to have ever in our entire lives. The control to change things to make this world a tiny bit better for a brief moment and yet we can't even get a chance to do that unless you have money or are a people's person, somebody with drive to actually wanting to help people which I rarely find and am guilty of conforming to the establishment that we humans are nothing. And so I feel nothing in return. Apologies for the rambling I just cannot fathom where to even begin to even help myself let alone almost 8 billion people most of whom are assholes and don't care about me or you and the trillions of other organisms who quite honestly wouldn't care less about you and would gladly feed on your rotting corpse without thinking twice about it. If I had the option I would gladly erase all life and blow this planet back to stardust but like always it's literally out of my fuckng control. Now what??
 
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RM5998

RM5998

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Sep 3, 2018
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You're all way into the philosophical stuff. Go outside, see the world with your own eyes. Would you be ok with being tortured every day? How would you feel if I enjoy seeing you suffer? I'm sick of this endless talk. Always the same bullshit. Everyone has to be the special snowflake. Get off your mind trip. You're just another human.

My point is that my feelings on the subject don't matter if I don't have power. If you're in a position to torture me, you can come up with a moral justification for it as well. What I have to think about it doesn't matter if you have control.
 
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J.D.

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Sep 6, 2018
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There's alot of selfish, cunty people in this world who just act and pretend to care.

All they really care about is their own selfish egoic agendas and what they can get and fuck everyone else.
 
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akosineenee

akosineenee

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Aug 22, 2018
224
In the words of my ex-best friend this world deserves a fucking zombie apocalypse; to which I counter most people already are.
 
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MEoDP

MEoDP

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Sep 2, 2018
347
In the words of my ex-best friend this world deserves a fucking zombie apocalypse; to which I counter most people already are.
Would you press the Big Red Button?

(Button that would instantly wipe out all life and end all existence)
 
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Bringmepeace

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Sep 1, 2018
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Would you press the Big Red Button?

(Button that would instantly wipe out all life and end all existence)
I would, without a second hesitation, I've seen the greed, the cruelty and the suffering in this world let alone what humanity is doing to our wildlife while we spread like a plague across the landscape. Think about it, it would stop everyone's suffering
 
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RM5998

RM5998

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Sep 3, 2018
2,202
So you don't believe in an objective morality?

No, I don't. Morality is a handy way of defining the guidelines of the code of conduct of society, and like other societal constructs, is mostly implemented informally. Law is a way of giving security to a society's members in the sense that it allows them to contribute value. It is often implemented via morality since the latter is a palatable thing for most people.
 
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akosineenee

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Aug 22, 2018
224
LOL! Not exactly,its an end-all-existence-with-one-push button,not just for yourself. Unless you meant that response as an outright "YES!"
Yes.
 
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Justanotherconsumer

Justanotherconsumer

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Jul 9, 2018
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You got it everything is just looking out for itself. Do you think charities that claim to help starving children in Africa are in fact doing anything? Most of the time 98 percent of that money is eaten up with "administration costs" the other 2 percent is film and camera crew with a bucket of cream of wheat for commercial purposes. Money isnt worth anything to a govt. Because its just printed paper with a percieved value, it isnt a money problem for starving children ect. When a govt. Says they are going to cut back on some social program because it isnt in the budget they are lying. Taxes are just a way to keep you poor and broke they dont need your money it has no value to the govt. Public corporations are owned by the govt. Paying 25% of your income in taxes means the govt. Pays you 25% less in wages then what they tell you. All real estate and land is owned by the govt. This results in hundreds of trillion every year paid in taxes to the govt. They dont need this paper currency it has no value, the only intent is to keep the average joe broke 99.9 percent. Why? Fear, fear is what controls society, slaves are controlled through fear. Being broke creates fear. You are held prisoner in the country of your birth.
 
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Bringmepeace

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You got it everything is just looking out for itself. Do you think charities that claim to help starving children in Africa are in fact doing anything? Most of the time 98 percent of that money is eaten up with "administration costs" the other 2 percent is film and camera crew with a bucket of cream of wheat for commercial purposes. Money isnt worth anything to a govt. Because its just printed paper with a percieved value, it isnt a money problem for starving children ect. When a govt. Says they are going to cut back on some social program because it isnt in the budget they are lying. Taxes are just a way to keep you poor and broke they dont need your money it has no value to the govt. Public corporations are owned by the govt. Paying 25% of your income in taxes means the govt. Pays you 25% less in wages then what they tell you. All real estate and land is owned by the govt. This results in hundreds of trillion every year paid in taxes to the govt. They dont need this paper currency it has no value, the only intent is to keep the average joe broke 99.9 percent. Why? Fear, fear is what controls society, slaves are controlled through fear. Being broke creates fear. You are held prisoner in the country of your birth.
THIS. This is one of the main reasons I wish to go, I have had enough of struggling for nothing. Have you ever wondered why the powers that be shun Suicide so much? Its because as soon as you do it they can no longer make money of of you and obviously no longer control you because your dead.
 
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Justanotherconsumer

Justanotherconsumer

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Jul 9, 2018
974
THIS. This is one of the main reasons I wish to go, I have had enough of struggling for nothing. Have you ever wondered why the powers that be shun Suicide so much? Its because as soon as you do it they can no longer make money of of you and obviously no longer control you because your dead.

Your labor is worth alot, all you get out of it is room and board.
 
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throwaway123

throwaway123

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Aug 5, 2018
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No, I don't. Morality is a handy way of defining the guidelines of the code of conduct of society, and like other societal constructs, is mostly implemented informally. Law is a way of giving security to a society's members in the sense that it allows them to contribute value. It is often implemented via morality since the latter is a palatable thing for most people.

That's a fucking decleration of psychopathy to me.
 
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joydivision

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Aug 26, 2018
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"In a world where 1% own 40% of the planet's wealth, in a world where 34,000 children die every single day from poverty and preventable disease, and where 50% of the world lives on less than $2 a day, one thing is clear: something is very wrong"

 
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bigj75

bigj75

“From Knowledge springs power."
Sep 1, 2018
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How would you define what's objectively moral? What standards are there to use?
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