I am scared to hang myself seeing rescent events in the news

[FireFox]

In the news in America a 12 year old girl called Kelaia Turner was being severely builled at school and ended up trying to kill herself by hanging. She was clinically dead for 8 minutes and then she was resaucatied back to life. She now has permanent brain damage and requires 24/7 care from her family. She is trapped in that vegetative state forever.

The family are suing the school because they knew she was being builled and did nothing to prevent it. The girl regularly told her parents she was being builled and the mum did everything through ALL the proper channels to get help to stop the bullying but the school authorities didn't care.

Her teachers even joined in with the builles. One teacher even allowed the bullies to play out loud a racist song on YouTube to torment her in class. Her bullies snuck into ICU, took pictures of her in her coma and uploaded on social media laughing at her. Pure evil these kids need to be jail and the teachers should never be allowed to teach again.

Vile bullies sneak into ICU to humiliate girl who hung herself

Kelaia Turner was allegedly physically and verbally assaulted by peers who branded her 'roach' and 'moustache face' at the Dr. Phinnize J Fisher Middle School in South Carolina.

www.dailymail.co.uk

These cases make me scared to hang myself because it's not the first time someone ended up brain damaged after being found trying to hang themselves.

 

[AwakeTooLong]

Awful what happened to the girl, usually bullies are raised by bullies, their parents are truly the ones responsible for their kids turning out the way they did and ruining another kid's life. Not even gonna talk about the pathetic excuse of a teacher who was supposed to put a stop to the bullying as soon as they were made aware of it.

Thing is, brain damage is practically a risk with most methods if you get revived but not quick enough. If you are going to hang yourself then you're also going to have make sure that the chances of anyone intruding are negligible.

 

[maniac116]

That's a terrible story & should be heeded by all.
Its just not worth the risk of using certain methods of ctb.

 

[helloandbye1]

I've seen this story. It's awful. I was bullied too, in school, not to this extent, so I can only imagine how terrible it must have felt for her.

But isn't the main thing here that she was found too soon? if you live by yourself or have many hours where you can be by yourself, shouldn't you be able to ctb by full hanging.

 

[Dusk till dawn]

As a survivor of a hanging attempt, it's never worth it, once you're there and you're about to choke you will become a rat enslaved to your survivial instincts, nobody will come to help you and you're all alone, personally i realised i'd rather die a excruciating and slow death than die by hanging, when i was there i was just a rat enslaved to SI screaming for help, its not just about the fear of surviving, during a hanging attempt you are literally a trapped rat being tormented, you regret thinking about hanging and wish you were just in the comfort of your bed instead of being in that place, it's not worth it, the psychological torment of SI in these moments is worse than being burned or crucified to death and its even worse when you scream for help and realise you're all alone and nobody is going to save you, trust me, the psychological torment of SI in your final minutes is more intense and extreme than the cruelest medieval torture methods you can think of, I wouldn't recommend trying hanging, at least with other methods you won't die like a trapped rat being tormented till the end

 

[lilah]

they should release the poor soul

 

[sevennn]

As a survivor of a hanging attempt, it's never worth it, once you're there and you're about to choke you will become a rat enslaved to your survivial instincts, nobody will come to help you and you're all alone, personally i realised i'd rather die a excruciating and slow death than die by hanging, when i was there i was just a rat enslaved to SI screaming for help, its not just about the fear of surviving, during a hanging attempt you are literally a trapped rat being tormented, you regret thinking about hanging and wish you were just in the comfort of your bed instead of being in that place, it's not worth it, the psychological torment of SI in these moments is worse than being burned or crucified to death and its even worse when you scream for help and realise you're all alone and nobody is going to save you, trust me, the psychological torment of SI in your final minutes is more intense and extreme than the cruelest medieval torture methods you can think of, I wouldn't recommend trying hanging, at least with other methods you won't die like a trapped rat being tormented till the end

maybe. but it isnt like people have many methods available

 

[FieldsofLavender]

this is one of the scariest things to me, one of the things that always gets me panicking... I don't know if I'd call it SI, its more just like... Some methods are a gamble, a horrific gamble...
It makes me think of Pascal's Wager... To me, the ceasing of existence is a good. The continuing of existence is torturous, but finitely so. Some methods are a roll of the dice, a chance at 'heaven', ctb, and a chance at 'hell', a further crippled and torturous existence that will be infinitely worse than it already is. If I don't attempt, my pain is finite, even if great. I can attempt to ctb, and could possibly end up free, but there is always the chance of infinite loss... Of course, with SI and my situation, the most likely outcome is nothing or a finite loss, but still... It's terrifying...

 

[Noob]

As a survivor of a hanging attempt, it's never worth it, once you're there and you're about to choke you will become a rat enslaved to your survivial instincts, nobody will come to help you and you're all alone, personally i realised i'd rather die a excruciating and slow death than die by hanging, when i was there i was just a rat enslaved to SI screaming for help, its not just about the fear of surviving, during a hanging attempt you are literally a trapped rat being tormented, you regret thinking about hanging and wish you were just in the comfort of your bed instead of being in that place, it's not worth it, the psychological torment of SI in these moments is worse than being burned or crucified to death and its even worse when you scream for help and realise you're all alone and nobody is going to save you, trust me, the psychological torment of SI in your final minutes is more intense and extreme than the cruelest medieval torture methods you can think of, I wouldn't recommend trying hanging, at least with other methods you won't die like a trapped rat being tormented till the end

For your description, hanging is also a excruciating and slow death? There's always risks in any methods that's why many of us don't even have the courage to make the attempt... Surviving and being in even an worse state.

 

[badomen]

This kind of scenario is so avoidable it's not even worth discussing lol. Just follow the discussion in the hanging megathread(s) and you will see where this kid went wrong with the method.

 

[Asleepatlast]

Just proves healthcare system isn't about healthcare. Why would you bring someone back to be in that state? Just to further the abuse and bullying. Poor child. This world is full of demons.

 

[Dusk till dawn]

For your description, hanging is also a excruciating and slow death? There's always risks in any methods that's why many of us don't even have the courage to make the attempt... Surviving and being in even an worse state.

Yes, however with different methods you won't be like a rat being tormented, i'm not against suicide or anything like this, i just don't recommend using hanging or drowning as a suicide method because i consider it one of the most horrible suicide methods possible in terms of comfort and a peaceful exit, at least from my experience

 

[Worndown]

All methods require some planning.
You need to make sure you are alone for at least 30 minutes. Damage starts at 5 to 6 minutes. You are gone at 10. You need 30 minutes to guarantee nobody can get you started again.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

As a survivor of a hanging attempt, it's never worth it, once you're there and you're about to choke you will become a rat enslaved to your survivial instincts, nobody will come to help you and you're all alone, personally i realised i'd rather die a excruciating and slow death than die by hanging, when i was there i was just a rat enslaved to SI screaming for help, its not just about the fear of surviving, during a hanging attempt you are literally a trapped rat being tormented, you regret thinking about hanging and wish you were just in the comfort of your bed instead of being in that place, it's not worth it, the psychological torment of SI in these moments is worse than being burned or crucified to death and its even worse when you scream for help and realise you're all alone and nobody is going to save you, trust me, the psychological torment of SI in your final minutes is more intense and extreme than the cruelest medieval torture methods you can think of, I wouldn't recommend trying hanging, at least with other methods you won't die like a trapped rat being tormented till the end

What are you talking about? You will pass out within 5 t0 15 seconds and will never be tormented for minutes!

 

[sevennn]

What are you talking about? You will pass out within 5 t0 15 seconds and will never be tormented for minutes!

unfortunately, think it is possible to stay conscious for a lot longer than that.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

unfortunately, think it is possible to stay conscious for a lot longer than that.

This would conflict with all known medical findings. You will pass out within seconds when the bloodflow through the brain is stopped, no matter whether blocked carodids or cardiac arrest is the cause.

 

[sevennn]

This would conflict with all known medical findings. You will pass out within seconds when the bloodflow through the brain is stopped, no matter whether blocked carodids or cardiac arrest is the cause.

you are free to look it up, ive seen videos of people clearly being conscious a lot longer than that. it is what it is, it happens (as you said. "when the blood flow is stopped" people dont always manage to achieve that quickly)

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

you are free to look it up, ive seen videos of people clearly being conscious a lot longer than that. it is what it is, it happens (as you said. "when the blood flow is stopped" people dont always manage to achieve that quickly)

I know those videos, they only seem to be conscious, the typical unconscious movements, convulsions, decerebrate and decordicate rigidity, rhythmic abdominal respiratory look indeed like consciuos movements, but they aren´t.

 

[anagram]

What are you talking about? You will pass out within 5 t0 15 seconds and will never be tormented for minutes!

this. If someone doesn't do the method properly it's not the method's fault it's the person's lack of ability. They shouldn't steer others away from the method and spread misinformation just because it didn't work out for themselves. If one researches, plans and experiments properly, the attempt will be successful.
Hanging and its variations are the most used method across the world and it works
If SI is a problem, certain drugs can alleviate it.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Yes, however with different methods you won't be like a rat being tormented, i'm not against suicide or anything like this, i just don't recommend using hanging or drowning as a suicide method because i consider it one of the most horrible suicide methods possible in terms of comfort and a peaceful exit, at least from my experience

These suicide methods definitely aren't ideal but unfortunately it's the only suicide methods that some people can access. It would be nice if euthanasia was legalised for us so that we don't have to resort to painful methods like this but unfortunately most people would rather have us suffer for eternity. Not everybody can access a better suicide method sadly. It's why I would drown myself if I knew that doing so would 100% kill me and that I wouldn't get resuscitated. For me, I'm not even scared of the pain caused by the methods anymore; I'm solely scared about getting resuscitated and being a permanent prisoner to my parents

 

[Apathy79]

Excuse my ignorance on the subject as I haven't attempted this personally, but isn't hanging the 2nd most common suicide method in the world? Don't thousands of people succeed with it every day? And isn't the experience of the carotid arteries being shut off the same mechanism as being choked out? My experience of that in a grappling context was reasonably quick and not traumatic. And watching hanging videos in the past I got the same sense. It seems to me it has a high success rate done right.

The outcome here is terrible. But my hunch is if we saw it in real time, we'd spot the error pretty quickly. She's 12 and likely had no idea what she was doing. I mean no method is infallible, but this one is pretty good all things considered with some basic research.

 

[Worndown]

This is about the brain damage that occurs during death.
You should pass out quickly. You are now done but not dead.
You are anbe to be revived with minimal damage within 5 minutes. 6 minutes has more damage.
10 minutes gets you laying in a bed forever. You will have enough damage that "you" no longer exist. Only a shell that looks like you.
All methods face this basic timeframe. When oxygen stops being delivered to the brain, the timer starts.

 

[sevennn]

I know those videos, they only seem to be conscious, the typical unconscious movements, convulsions, decerebrate and decordicate rigidity, rhythmic abdominal respiratory look indeed like consciuos movements, but they aren´t.

christ. ok. i literally saw a woman holding the rope above her head multiple times. trying to take the pressure off her neck, how is that not being conscious. idk. she obviously was. i'm dropping this. (plus we literally have a person sharing their awful experience right in the thread. it happens, i'm sorry to tell you, not everyone loses consciousness so quick. yes it can be awful. it's hanging…)

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Excuse my ignorance on the subject as I haven't attempted this personally, but isn't hanging the 2nd most common suicide method in the world? Don't thousands of people succeed with it every day? And isn't the experience of the carotid arteries being shut off the same mechanism as being choked out?

Most people who attempt suicide fail. It being the second most commonly used method doesn't negate this fact.

It has been reported that 10% of suicide attempts would be fatal within a period of 10 years of the first attempt and 19% to 24% of deaths caused by suicide occur in patients that had a history of suicide attempts [14]. Among individuals who have attempted suicide, 4.5% resulted in death within a month, with 9% to 37% attempting suicide again within 6 months [15]

In this study, they also found that out of the 4.2% (130 people in total) people who attempted via hanging, 56.9% of people survived and 43.1% of people died. In total, the study found that 90.1% of patients survived their suicide attempts while only 9.9% succeeded.

How successful a method is for you comes down to a variety of factors, the biggest of which is execution. Even with the information on this site, executing many of these methods can be difficult for some in practice. To add insult to injury, you have to execute these methods correctly or else you risk potentially dying a horrible and slow death, or worse, sustaining permanent damage to parts of the body. Most people who try to commit suicide have to attempt it multiple times before succeeding.

 

[cait_sith]

As a survivor of a hanging attempt, it's never worth it, once you're there and you're about to choke you will become a rat enslaved to your survivial instincts, nobody will come to help you and you're all alone, personally i realised i'd rather die a excruciating and slow death than die by hanging, when i was there i was just a rat enslaved to SI screaming for help, its not just about the fear of surviving, during a hanging attempt you are literally a trapped rat being tormented, you regret thinking about hanging and wish you were just in the comfort of your bed instead of being in that place, it's not worth it, the psychological torment of SI in these moments is worse than being burned or crucified to death and its even worse when you scream for help and realise you're all alone and nobody is going to save you, trust me, the psychological torment of SI in your final minutes is more intense and extreme than the cruelest medieval torture methods you can think of, I wouldn't recommend trying hanging, at least with other methods you won't die like a trapped rat being tormented till the end

I'm very interested in your hanging attempt, how you managed to fail and how you were able to stay conscious for minutes, because it contradicts my research that say you usually will be unconscious at around 20 seconds.

 

[Worndown]

If you do not have a good ligature that tightens properly, you may not pass out quickly. Placement is also important.

The woman mentioned did not plan well. She is why everyone really needs to research their method and understand how it works, how much time is needed and how to do it correctly.
This is for all methods. Please review the threads. They contain a wealth of information.

 

[Dusk till dawn]

I'm very interested in your hanging attempt, how you managed to fail and how you were able to stay conscious for minutes, because it contradicts my research that say you usually will be unconscious at around 20 seconds.

I technically wasn't choking, when i was going down with a nose in my head a spiral knot formed on my left hand, as a result my left hand took all the damage (nothing permanent)

This is pretty much the only reason i'm still alive

This left me suspended in the air for some time not only dealing with my left hand being crushed but also dealing with extreme SI while trying to push myself in the air, i believe this is the worst that could happen during a full suspension attempt since you become a trapped rat being tormented until all strength leaves your body and you can't physically push yourself or try to do anything, in my case it would have taken at least 1 hour until my left hand was completely crushed or the spiral knot got untied

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

I technically wasn't choking, when i was going down a spiral knot formed on my left hand, as a result my left hand took all the damage (nothing permanent)

This left me suspended in the air for some time not only dealing with my left hand being crushed but also dealing with extreme SI while trying to push myself in the air, i believe this is the worst that could happen during a full suspension attempt since you become a trapped rat being tormented till all strength leaves your body

The pressure on your neck is inversely proportional to the diameter of your neck. Therefore the pressure on your wrist is much higher than on your neck.

 

[sevennn]

I technically wasn't choking, when i was going down with a nose in my head a spiral knot formed on my left hand, as a result my left hand took all the damage (nothing permanent)

This is pretty much the only reason i'm still alive

This left me suspended in the air for some time not only dealing with my left hand being crushed but also dealing with extreme SI while trying to push myself in the air, i believe this is the worst that could happen during a full suspension attempt since you become a trapped rat being tormented until all strength leaves your body and you can't physically push yourself or try to do anything, in my case it would have taken at least 1 hour until my left hand was completely crushed or the spiral knot got untied

i'm so sorry you went through that

 

[FireFox]

Awful what happened to the girl, usually bullies are raised by bullies, their parents are truly the ones responsible for their kids turning out the way they did and ruining another kid's life. Not even gonna talk about the pathetic excuse of a teacher who was supposed to put a stop to the bullying as soon as they were made aware of it.

Thing is, brain damage is practically a risk with most methods if you get revived but not quick enough. If you are going to hang yourself then you're also going to have make sure that the chances of anyone intruding are negligible.

@AwakeTooLong The fact the teachers joined the bullying just confirmed what i always believed which was some teachers go into teaching to relieve their high school experience and teenage years.

When I was in secondary school we had a teacher in her 20s and she behaved like those bullying mean popular teenage girls in secondary school. She humiliated the girl pupils constantly while the boys at school who inappropriately flirted with her she never punished or told off for flirting with her.

This teacher was distrubing in how she humiliated the girls at school and enjoyed it while the boys faced no punishment even though they did even far worse.

1) Some of the girls in school didn't want to pick sociology because she was the only teacher teaching it. This teacher made a girl pupil cry the poor girl was crying her eyes out all break because of the teachers behaviour in class. I had heard other girls complain about her and her behaviour.

2) One Time in class my bag was messy full of papers from all my subjects and the teacher saw . She forced me to go see the head of year and show her my bag. She said she will ring to see if I went there.

She threw me out of the class and made a massive drama out of it everyone was staring. The teacher later phones my mum to complain about my bag having too many papers and sheets not being organised

It was so humiliating because this was something she could have spoken to me privately about after class but humiliated me to the entire class.