Method Hypernatermia (Method/Resource)

[lovelove416]

I made a post about this already but I've done my research and am making this as a separate thread to document my findings.

Definition:
Hypernatermia is a medical condition characterized by an extremely high concentration of sodium in blood. It can be a result of extreme dehydration or in this CTB method from excessive sodium (salt intake).

Cause:
As I stated a high consumption of table salt can cause this. Risk factors also include gastroenteritis, vomiting, sweating/fever/heat, existing kidney problems, and hyperglycemia. Diabetes can worsen this as well. Hypernatermia most commonly occurs among the elderly and infantile.

Symptoms:
Most commonly experienced is dehydration. As it worsens you might start to become confused and have muscle twitches and seizures. As well as coma and death. Death can occur from the rupture of blood vessels in your brain.

For information on Brain Hemorrhage (Blood Vessel Rupture)

Brain Hemorrhage

A brain hemorrhage is a type of stroke. It’s caused by an artery in the brain bursting and causing localized bleeding in the surrounding tissues. This bleeding kills brain cells When blood from trauma irritates brain tissues, it causes swelling. This is known

virclinic.com

Primary Source(s):

Hypernatremia (high blood sodium level)

Hypernatremia is a medical condition characterized by an abnormally high concentration of sodium in the blood, which can result from dehydration, excessive sodium intake, or an underlying medical condition. It can lead to various symptoms and complications if not properly managed.

www.yalemedicine.org

What Is Hypernatremia?

Learn what hypernatremia is and how to prevent too much sodium in your blood.

www.webmd.com

 

[monetpompo]

As I stated a high consumption of table salt can cause this.

is there a way to test this? people have tried to drink table salt before but they usually just throw up. but i know that there's been reports of people dying because they drank soy sauce.

 

[lovelove416]

is there a way to test this? people have tried to drink table salt before but they usually just throw up. but i know that there's been reports of people dying because they drank soy sauce.

Soy sauce is very rare but the cause of CTB there is also hypernatermia. However the salt concentration is lower and you'd likely vomit that up as well. Vomiting in this scenario also won't likely prevent CTB or cure hypernatermia. Instead it worsens hypernatermia by worsening dehydration.

 

[Dejected 55]

When I was considering this earlier last year... I was considering it because table salt is super cheap... In my early theoretical plan I was thinking it would be good to eat salty foods for a day or so in advance and then also have a day or two of no water intake to help increase the salt content and decrease the water content in my body as much as possible. This would have had the double effect of raising my salt AND lowering my water... so that I would be able to drink some water without screwing up the process while I was downing the salt.

I also was considering adding sugar to the salt water when I drank... to ease the taste... and I don't think that would have inhibited the desired effect of overloading my body with salt.

I don't have a stable stomach, though... so this and SN and other similar methods make me nervous because it doesn't take much to give me nausea or make me vomit... so I'm not sure I can make it through the process.

 

[bpdbun]

What would be the actual suicidal plan though? How would you consume it, how much, etc

 

[monetpompo]

What would be the actual suicidal plan though? How would you consume it, how much, etc

what i'm thinking of. i feel like fasting + water fasting and then trying to attempt would be the protocol, but idk how to measure how much salt someone would need to put into their water

 

[Dejected 55]

What would be the actual suicidal plan though? How would you consume it, how much, etc

I forget, but I was able to look up when I was researching approximations on how much table salt for your body weight to consume.

 

[Baisley]

Soy sauce is very rare but the cause of CTB there is also hypernatermia. However the salt concentration is lower and you'd likely vomit that up as well. Vomiting in this scenario also won't likely prevent CTB or cure hypernatermia. Instead it worsens hypernatermia by worsening dehydration.

What's the method you plan on using to cause the hypernatermia?

 

[lovelove416]

What would be the actual suicidal plan though? How would you consume it, how much, etc

10oz is enough to CTB. As long as you digest the salt the method of getting it down the throat is up to the individual and can vary. 10oz salt consumption added with other means of dehydration such as inducing sweat from intense exercise, fasting, or heat can increase likelihood of CTB.

 

[weeping<3willow]

i feel like this would be EXTREMELY painful, like, i literally can't think of a worse way to CTB than this off the top of my head

can't lie tho i thought of this method as well

 

[lovelove416]

i feel like this would be EXTREMELY painful, like, i literally can't think of a worse way to CTB than this off the top of my head

can't lie tho i thought of this method as well

Can you explain why this would be painful and the worst way to CTB?

 

[weeping<3willow]

Can you explain why this would be painful and the worst way to CTB?

We report a case of fatal salt poisoning in a 55-year-old woman who suffered from depression and drank
a large quantity of shoyu (Japanese soy sauce). She presented with the highest ever documented serum
sodium level of 187 mmol/L. This was associated with symptoms of cerebral damage which developed
within hours after drinking the soy sauce. She died as a result of massive pulmonary edema, despite
intensive medical treatment. Viewing the results of clinical and postmortem investigations together, her
death could clearly be attributed to drinking a large quantity of soy sauce.

The estimated Glasgow coma scale score was 6
from google: In the Glasgow Coma Scale (GCS), a score of 6 on the motor response indicates the patient obeys commands, meaning they can perform requested actions like sticking out their tongue or moving a limb

Over the following hours, she suffered seizures and became more and more sleepy. She was intubated and admitted to the intensive care unit (ICU). Despite full intensive treatment and aggressive isotonic sodium chloride fluid resuscitation, the patient rapidly deteriorated and died 12 h after arrival.

source: https://bookcafe.yuntsg.com/ueditor/jsp/upload/file/20230205/1675562753382005354.pdf

 

[lovelove416]

We report a case of fatal salt poisoning in a 55-year-old woman who suffered from depression and drank
a large quantity of shoyu (Japanese soy sauce). She presented with the highest ever documented serum
sodium level of 187 mmol/L. This was associated with symptoms of cerebral damage which developed
within hours after drinking the soy sauce. She died as a result of massive pulmonary edema, despite
intensive medical treatment. Viewing the results of clinical and postmortem investigations together, her
death could clearly be attributed to drinking a large quantity of soy sauce.

The estimated Glasgow coma scale score was 6
from google: In the Glasgow Coma Scale (GCS), a score of 6 on the motor response indicates the patient obeys commands, meaning they can perform requested actions like sticking out their tongue or moving a limb

Over the following hours, she suffered seizures and became more and more sleepy. She was intubated and admitted to the intensive care unit (ICU). Despite full intensive treatment and aggressive isotonic sodium chloride fluid resuscitation, the patient rapidly deteriorated and died 12 h after arrival.

source: https://bookcafe.yuntsg.com/ueditor/jsp/upload/file/20230205/1675562753382005354.pdf

I'm not sure if the medical information implies physical pain that you'll feel in your consciousness during the attempt, but more so the internal effects. It is very horrific on an autopsy standpoint, but the victim is dead in the aftermath and free of that. This does validate the lethality of the method. I'm of course not certain myself of what the conscious experience of this method would be. I do know the symptoms but they seem relatively bearable.

 

[TimingOut]

Salt water has been used as a home remedy to induce vomiting (https://health.osu.edu/health/general-health/answering-common-questions-about-vomit), as James Bond did in the movie (, @1'52"). The first question is whether OTC antiemetics are strong enough to counter the effect of vomiting.

Then comes the question of peacefulness: what are the chances and intensity of stomach ache (very quickly experienced a burning sensation in throat and stomach, which was then followed by headache, dizziness, and nausea: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11626917/; and even worse, oesophageal perforation: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2004.01411.x
) or headache (as a result of cerebral edema: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1344622304000306)? And what about muscle spasm which is one of the common symptoms of electrolytes imbalances (https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/24019-electrolyte-imbalance)? Would SI cause the method impracticable?

How's this "psychogenic salt intake" (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2004.01411.x) compared with water intoxication (hyponatremia, https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1770067/)?

 

[monetpompo]

Then comes the question of peacefulness: what are the chances and intensity of stomach ache (very quickly experienced a burning sensation in throat and stomach, which was then followed by headache, dizziness, and nausea: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11626917/; and even worse, oesophageal perforation: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2004.01411.x
) or headache (as a result of cerebral edema: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1344622304000306)? And what about muscle spasm which is one of the common symptoms of electrolytes imbalances (https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/24019-electrolyte-imbalance)? Would SI cause the method impracticable?

How's this "psychogenic salt intake" (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2004.01411.x) compared with water intoxication (hyponatremia, https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1770067/)?

ay caramba. also based for linking a james bond movie because you figured it applied here. movie trivia is fun on sasu