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Just for the record. How is it to actually have to drink 200ml of N.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-survive-a-Nembutal-overdose

from a post of the member NisMyHope:

can you describe the taste?

"English is my second language so I cant explain it exactly. But the smell is something like face cleanser when you try to smell from the bottle (not pleasant like cosmetic though) but when you drink it, the smells is really bad with very strong bitter but worst. Lidocaine sprey does help me but not so much. I will use it for sure. I think if you are an alcohol user. You will do better than me. I don't drink, I hate the taste of alcohol. It taste similar but with worse smell. Anyway, after I drink it and eat my chocolate and some water(not recommend, I drink because it just a trial), the bad taste is gone fast."

How "easy" is it to get down these 200ml. What to practise? Should someone order 1 extra bottle, if he vomited out and so on

Appreciate Your thoughts.
 
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ugh.. this is my nightmare... miraculously i get my hands on 2 bottles of N. but the taste/smell is so awful that I'm unable drink 2 bottles. I'm pretty good at taking shots of alcohol so I think I can do 2 bottles, with 4 large gulps....but who knows with the survival instincts kicking in...
 
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I ve found out, there is already a thread:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/a-worrying-comment-on-nembutal-taste.703/

+interesting someone drank it with orange / apple juice:

Case 1 A 57-year-old male with a past medical history of depression traveled to San Diego and checked into a hotel. After a missed golf tee time and multiple unanswered telephone calls the following day, hotel management entered the room and found the victim deceased on the bed. Around him was a suicide note, a drinking glass with a viscous orange liquid in it, a partly filled bottle of orange juice, and two empty 50 mL bottles of veterinary pentobarbital sodium.

Case 2 A 57-year-old Australian male checked into a San Diego time-share facility the same day of his arrival into the United States. Multiple attempts by facility personnel to contact the victim went unanswered over the following 7 days and despite a "Do Not Disturb" sign, authorities entered the unit and found the victim deceased. Next to him was an empty drinking glass with a straw, a partly filled bottle of apple juice, an empty 100 mL bottle of pentobarbital sodium, and a business card for a veterinary pharmacy in Tijuana, Mexico.


also interesting (how could she survive - maybe 100ml is not enough):

Case 3 A 20-year-old pregnant female with a history of depression and borderline personality disorder was found comatose in
her apartment by paramedics. Two empty bottles of veterinary pentobarbital sodium (Sedalphorte®, Salud y Bienestar, México D.F., México. 63 mg/ml in 100 ml vials) and one of metoclopramide were found in her apartment. She was intubated in the emergency department and was treated supportively. Serial blood pentobarbital concentrations measured by GC–MS were 24.4 mg/L (Day 1), 25.8 mg/L (Day 2), and 7.1 mg/dL (Day 3). The presence of acetaminophen, ethanol, salicylates, and drugs of abuse in her system was excluded. She was treated for aspiration pneumonia, was subsequently extubated after 3 days, and made a complete recovery. She revealed that she had used the book The Peaceful Pill Handbook3 to guide her acquisition and use of the pentobarbital and metoclopramide, which she obtained on a visit to Mexico.
 
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what do you mean with "chaser" - cannot translate the word
Drinking Maple Syrup directly after you drink N. so that the taste of N. is not in your mouth.

Like drinking a coke or beer after a shot of whiskey
 
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Ah thanks. But that would not help with the problem that N tastes cruel itself and you have to get down 200ml.
I´ve read somewhere in this Forum the following:

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I have 150 ml without any mix in 1 glass
100 ml mixed with 50 ml maple syrup
2 glass of whiskey
1 dark chocolate bar"

The question is - is it intelligent to mix it? Or does mixing it take away its effectifeness?
 
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Ah thanks. But that would not help with the problem that N tastes cruel itself and you have to get down 200ml.
I´ve read somewhere in this Forum the following:

"
I have 150 ml without any mix in 1 glass
100 ml mixed with 50 ml maple syrup
2 glass of whiskey
1 dark chocolate bar"

The question is - is it intelligent to mix it? Or does mixing it take away its effectifeness?
i think this list came from LoveMyKids who turned out to be a fraud.... so i wouldn't follow this.
 
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i think this list came from LoveMyKids who turned out to be a fraud.... so i wouldn't follow this.
can you explain why it turned out a fraud?? I thought, that he peacefully died? Appreciate a PM or reply. Thanks in advance
 
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can you explain why it turned out a fraud?? I thought, that he peacefully died? Appreciate a PM or reply. Thanks in advance
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...urns-out-to-be-a-scam.7242/page-2#post-127347
 
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https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...urns-out-to-be-a-scam.7242/page-2#post-127347
Thanks - read the whole story...internet forums are really a dark place, you have to watch out

Now I would not mix it with sirup - what would you recommend - just getting the 200ml down even if they smell and taste like something we never have experienced so badly?
 
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All the literature suggests there is nothing that can adequately mask the taste and it's more effective if drunk neat. I know the taste can be off-putting but l don't think there's any room for negotiation with it; Dignitas don't mix it, probably for a good reason.
 
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All the literature suggests there is nothing that can adequately mask the taste and it's more effective if drunk neat. I know the taste can be off-putting but l don't think there's any room for negotiation with it; Dignitas don't mix it, probably for a good reason.
Dignitas has not a veterinarian medicine, normally used for anmials.
They use a concentrate in 50ml of water - so only 1/4 of the amount, we have to get down.
Ours should smell and taste much much much more cruel. So mixing it with something like orange juice
"Around him was a suicide note, a drinking glass with a viscous orange liquid in it, a partly filled bottle of orange juice, and two empty 50 mL bottles of veterinary pentobarbital sodium."
may definitely help.
 
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Thanks - read the whole story...internet forums are really a dark place, you have to watch out

Now I would not mix it with sirup - what would you recommend - just getting the 200ml down even if they smell and taste like something we never have experienced so badly?
i wish i knew... actually i wish i had N. on hand and had this problem. If I could get my hands on N. and decided to CTB, i would force my self to drink it... probably in 4 large gulps after taking the anti vomiting medication
 
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Ah thanks. But that would not help with the problem that N tastes cruel itself and you have to get down 200ml.
I´ve read somewhere in this Forum the following:

"
I have 150 ml without any mix in 1 glass
100 ml mixed with 50 ml maple syrup
2 glass of whiskey
1 dark chocolate bar"

The question is - is it intelligent to mix it? Or does mixing it take away its effectifeness?
According to several reports, you won't be able to supress the taste effectively so the only thing you're doing is increasing the amount of fluid you have to drink. So it's probably best to "just drink it" and chase it down with some chocolate.
 
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Dignitas is 15g concentrated; it tastes worse, not better, than veterinary N.

All methods have their positives and negatives. With N, you have what is the most peaceful method of passing, endorsed by those who practice humane euthanasia, and the only negative is a foul taste. This is far less off-putting than the potential negative outcome of, say, going under a train.

Like all methods, N doesn't meet you half way. If you can't follow the simple regimen outlined by those who practice euthanasia then perhaps you're not ready. After all, it's only a taste.
 
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There is also N. by enema method as an option....(something which I'm not going to do)
 
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Dignitas is 15g concentrated; it tastes worse, not better, than veterinary N.

All methods have their positives and negatives. With N, you have what is the most peaceful method of passing, endorsed by those who practice humane euthanasia, and the only negative is a foul taste. This is far less off-putting than the potential negative outcome of, say, going under a train.

Like all methods, N doesn't meet you half way. If you can't follow the simple regimen outlined by those who practice euthanasia then perhaps you're not ready. After all, it's only a taste.
Yes You are right with this - thanks for that.
Will just get it down - and then some choclate and whiskey afterwards. Will be fine.
 
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Yes You are right with this - thanks for that.
Will just get it down - and then some choclate and whiskey afterwards. Will be fine.
Do you have your hands on N. at the moment? I think you were traveling to South America?
 
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So the difference in what they use at assisted suicide clinics and the veterinary pento form is just a matter of strength? Where did you get that the latter should smell and taste much much much more cruel Tidus?

I wondered about it cause I read some words from a mexican vet on 8ch which seemed to suggest that it's something really different (she was in shock about using their pento to step out as well so not sure about what she was referring to as she talked about euthanasia instead of assisted suicide).
 
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So the difference in what they use at assisted suicide clinics and the veterinary pento form is just a matter of strength? Where did you get that the latter should smell and taste much much much more cruel Tidus?

I wondered about it cause I read some words from a mexican vet on 8ch which seemed to suggest that it's something really different (she was in shock about using their pento to step out as well so not sure about what she was referring to as she talked about euthanasia instead of assisted suicide).

I´ve got it from a doctor
"N is very bitter with metallic taste and u need 200ml"
as well as read many many articles about the euthanasia here in the forum and in other ressources.
 
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I´ve got it from a doctor
"N is very bitter with metallic taste and u need 200ml"
as well as read many many articles about the euthanasia here in the forum and in other ressources.
It's not so much the potential bad taste that i worry about... it's drinking two bottles of 100 ml each of bad tasting liquid that I really worry about. I can definitely down 1 bottle no matter what the taste but two bottles? I don't know... this is what worries me especially when your survival instincts kick in....
 
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Ok^. I just send this question to my End-Of-Life counselor about whether it's just a matter of strenght difference (yes we have those counselors in my country and because of him I got the address of A back in december), so let's see what he comes up with...
 
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Yes You are right with this - thanks for that.
Will just get it down - and then some choclate and whiskey afterwards. Will be fine.
I think I'm going to go with this method.

Thank you guys,This thread is quite informative,exactly what I'm looking for.
 
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Ok^. I just send this question to my End-Of-Life counselor about whether it's just a matter of strenght difference (yes we have those counselors in my country and because of him I got the address of A back in december), so let's see what he comes up with...
Yes please reply!
 
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If I was lucky enough to have N, I would just drink it, bottoms up. At that point, I wouldn't care about the taste. Besides, you can always have something sweet afterwards, like chocolate or whatever. I wish I could make up my mind about ordering it or not. Such an ordeal with giving that much money to wait and maybe never get it.
 
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https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-survive-a-Nembutal-overdose

"Oh, and the stuff is extremely bitter. During the test run I sort of gagged a little, it had such a vile acrid taste, really foul tasting. But if you've taken creatine dissolved in water - as many ex-powerlifters would tell you - you would get an idea of what it tastes like - the Nembutal is a bit like that, a really putrid taste but of course the Nembutal is far worse"
 
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If I was lucky enough to have N, I would just drink it, bottoms up. At that point, I wouldn't care about the taste. Besides, you can always have something sweet afterwards, like chocolate or whatever. I wish I could make up my mind about ordering it or not. Such an ordeal with giving that much money to wait and maybe never get it.
same boat... ordering it sort of means that it really is going to happen... plus the wait for order is going to be torture. Will it be stuck in customs? and delivery takes weeks...
 
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https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-survive-a-Nembutal-overdose

"Oh, and the stuff is extremely bitter. During the test run I sort of gagged a little, it had such a vile acrid taste, really foul tasting. But if you've taken creatine dissolved in water - as many ex-powerlifters would tell you - you would get an idea of what it tastes like - the Nembutal is a bit like that, a really putrid taste but of course the Nembutal is far worse"

Not sure the creatine thing is remotely accurate tbh.

Yes, N is rumoured to taste foul, but to look at it as "the worst thing I'll ever taste" is to pay attention to the wrong detail imo; "is it worth tolerating this fleetingly awful taste in order to guarantee the most peaceful means of ctb" is probably a sounder mindset.
 
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