How much benzos to use with phenobarbital?

[Bluesummers]

If I'm not going to obtain some N, I think I'm going to use phenobarbital. The fact is that pheno, especially a big dose, may effectively kill you but it will take a lot of time (they say even 24-36 hours). So, does anyone know what could be a correct amount of benzos in order to fall asleep until the pheno starts to work? For example, how many grams of alprazolam or something like that

 

[enjolras]

Read both the Guide to a self-chosen humane death (benzo & barb chapters) and the PPH. They contain noteworthy precisions and suggestions of several molecules+doses to choose from to accompany Pheno. Xanax (short to intermediate acting) is not one of them

 

[Bluesummers]

So a long-acting benzo could be the right choice?

 

[Letmego. Please]

Also do a search of posts with Pheno in the title, there have been quite a few, and will provide useful information.

If you read all that has been suggested to you, you will not need to come straight back to ask another question you could have found the answer to yourself if only you tried. It's your death, read the guides.

 

[enjolras]

Not only! There are several ways you should improve it. Phenobarbital is very special, to not take lightly
Please read it all, it's no time wasted. There's no quick way to pass all the info for you to take a decision (your own)

PS : it could take longer than you think, up to 72h, during which no life saving treatment is permitted

 

[Bluesummers]

Of course I read the PPH. I have no idea on how getting morphine sulphate. And I read from different sources that if one want to use only pheno, is recommended to add some benzodiazepines, but I didn't find the quantity. So, that's why I was asking

 

[calendulo]

You must be a smart guy, so far you are the only one that did that good question.
The final exit recommends midazolam as somniferous.
You have a safe recipe in there. You may to change the benzo.

 

[enjolras]

3rd read ? lol

 

[enjolras]

Ok great, haven't read Final Exit yet, but here are 3 different takes in full details. Can't get more sweaty :
* Oregon : 20g + 20g Chloral hydrate + 3(-6g) Morphine Sulfate + 30ml Ethanol / 3ml water + 4-6h fast + stat 20mg Meto + 8mg Zofran + 30-60ml alcohol/non-acidic
* Guide : 10g + 300mg Diazepam/Flurazepam (long) (+150mg Midazolam (very short)) + 36h AE
* PPH : 10g + Sodium carbonate + 1g Dilantin + ? Oxazepam/Nitrazepam (intermediate) + alcohol + stat/regimen AE

Oregon remarks theirs can burn, not only bitter

Definitely less straight-forward than N, plus possible to get confused if tempted about arrangements not understanding which component does what

https://www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/PROVIDERPARTNERRESOURCES/EVALUATIONRESEARCH/DEATHWITHDIGNITYACT/Documents/year22.pdf

Speaking of Oregon, regarding the duration, the official data (2001-2019, I've verified that the max extreme happened after 2008, so no overlap) backs the Guide (2006), stating it can take max 3 days, more pessimistic than the 24-36 hours OP presented, in worst case scenarios

 

[Letmego. Please]

If the Op did a search they will find I followed the guide (the older basic one with all that's needed) over 10yrs ago & I'm still here. Like I said, search & read, any idiot can answer your question & if you haven't read up on it how will you know they are being honest or even know what they are talking about.

Edited to make sure @enjolras doesn't think I'm calling them an idiot, deffo not the case.

 

[Aap]

Benzos and barbs are synergistic. One keeps the gaba mediated chloride channel open more frequently and one keeps it open longer. Long acting benzos are better in the sense that this Potentiation lasts longer , but there is no wrong here. Short acting benzos do not harm anything and could still hasten the end. Likewise, alcohol is synergistic with both.