Help How many still have their N?

[Johnnythefox]

Yes. I could trade some used Primperan from Domingo. Deal?

I'll have to set up my bitcoin account right away, this seems to good to be true.

 

[Johnnythefox]

Whatever @Johnnythefox is charging for empty glass bottles, I'll undercut. I've got fucking loads of them here, all available for no more than 500USD each.

I'll buy them all!

 

[Chinaski]

If you KNOW that it's something most people think until they really have to face it then educate them don't berate them. You said on another post yesterday after you ranted at someone and they were cowed by it "I didn't mean to be abrasive BUT....". I think you do mean to be abrasive.You have a lot of wisdom but taking your shit out on others is not a good thing and I am seeing it a lot. The "grumpy old man" thing is cute for a minute, and I empathize...but then it gets tiring and I have seen more than one person feel shouted down by your tone. If you care as much as you claim maybe dial it back? If you have to keep justifying or apologizing then you are doing something wrong and it seems a pattern of "be an asshole"...explain or say 'well maybe I was too harsh'. Just skip the first part and give us the good stuff.

I do not keep "justifying or apologising", you've seen one incident wherein l took a particular tone for a very legitimate reason before assuring the individual concerned that this was not necessarily due to him alone; you appear to have taken that single interaction and decided that "apologising" for my own content is something l do regularly. I do not, and am not going to do it here either.

If you like the content but not the posting style, l can't help you with that. Take or leave it, frankly. As for taking "my shit out on others", how about this: the suggestion that those who haven't yet drank their N are in some way weak is actually a shitty one. It's not my responsibility to "educate" other users who ask questions of no real benefit such as that one. A silly question was directly asked and l replied in kind.

I honestly don't seek your professed "empathy" here, which you express insincerely as a device, you can keep that shit.

 

[Zzzzz]

I would argue against this. I think people can be more or less reconciled with death and that for different individuals it can require more or less courage. The state of mind with which we approach taking our own lives can differ. For example, I think that for someone who has been brought up in an extremely religious environment and believes that committing suicide will bring him eternal damnation the act requires more courage than for someone who believes it will be just like eternal sleep. Of course, both require a lot of courage but I am against putting everyone in the same pot and saying courage is courage, it is always the same.

Furthermore, committing suicide requires these two types of courage - one associated with the method itself, and one associated with, like you said, bringing about one's own ceasing to exist. So the courage would be x + y, a synthesis of these two, not just y (which, like I said, I think can also differ between individuals).

I agree with what I think is your main point though - that it requires more courage than we imagine even going through with a peaceful method like N. Peaceful does not equal easy.

I agree. This seems reasonable. It's not just the fear of death people have to deal with. There is fear of the method. fear of failure. fear of pain. And each person has varying degrees of fear for these factors. Someone who is terrified of heights is probably going to have a harder time jumping than someone who is completely comfortable in the air. The fear of death is common but mostly irrational, unless you believe in an afterlife where suffering continues.

 

[Chinaski]

I was right the first time...you are just a dick. Being a dick who is smart about some stuff and has some clever things to say is still a dick and it hurts people. Adios. Back on the ignore list...I'm sure it will break your heart too.

I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE IGNORE LIST he bleats, as if literally anybody gives a fuck.

 

[iHeartRockArt]

Things are getting disrespectful in this thread and it's going to be shut down for further commentary if it is not cleaned up quickly.

If you do NOT agree with someone, discussion is fine, but this disrespect needs to stop. Name calling and bullying is against the rules.

 

[meowcat]

Absolutely dead at this.

Thanks brother.You may be a asshole but so am i.I'ts all good.

 

[creationisdeath]

I agree. This seems reasonable. It's not just the fear of death people have to death with. There is fear of the method. fear of failure. fear of pain. And each person has varying degrees of fear for these factors. Someone who is terrified of heights is probably going to have a harder time jumping than someone who is completely comfortable in the air. The fear of death is common but mostly irrational, unless you believe in an afterlife where suffering continues.

What calms me down when I think about this is the fact that everyone will die. (Unless some billionaire assholes already have access to immortality, but I think that's still too soon)

If everyone dies the question of: "Will the other side be bad/punishment/etc?" makes no sense since you would only get maybe 80 years of delay before the eternity. And a benevolent God would have never put you into this position.

What makes it harder for me personally is how everyone keeps up their act. I feel like my sense of reality has been "cleaned" by the constant thought of suicide. If you strip away the masks then everyone is really just drowning themselves in distractions. But they're very good at it.

"one more product/experience"

Sometimes I'm full on 100% nihilistic. There really is no reason for humanity to exist at all.

 

[creationisdeath]

Perhaps many just think ahead and acquire the means for the future.
It's wise to be prepared as life changes.

Unfortunately it doesn't last very long. At least the official story is 2 years only if kept in the fridge. That's why I didn't buy N years ago when it was easier and a lot cheaper to do so.

 

[J.E. Morrow]

Unfortunately it doesn't last very long. At least the official story is 2 years only if kept in the fridge. That's why I didn't buy N years ago when it was easier and a lot cheaper to do so.

Does N have to be kept in the fridge? Even if its still sealed?

 

[Deleted member 4993]

The liquid will keep for many years if stored correctly much more than 2 years.
I have the powder which also lasts many years.

 

[RainAndSadness]

I still have my N and I would never give it away. It's currently packed in gift wrap. I did that a while ago, it's supposed to be a present to myself. I'm glad I have the option to leave peacefully once I'm ready to do it.

 

[meowcat]

Ignorance isn't a crime nor a defect. It's just not knowing something yet. If you KNOW that it's something most people think until they really have to face it then educate them don't berate them. You said on another post yesterday after you ranted at someone and they were cowed by it "I didn't mean to be abrasive BUT....". I think you do mean to be abrasive.You have a lot of wisdom but taking your shit out on others is not a good thing and I am seeing it a lot. The "grumpy old man" thing is cute for a minute, and I empathize...but then it gets tiring and I have seen more than one person feel shouted down by your tone. If you care as much as you claim maybe dial it back? If you have to keep justifying or apologizing then you are doing something wrong and it seems a pattern of "be an asshole"...explain or say 'well maybe I was too harsh'. Just skip the first part and give us the good stuff.

What calms me down when I think about this is the fact that everyone will die. (Unless some billionaire assholes already have access to immortality, but I think that's still too soon)

If everyone dies the question of: "Will the other side be bad/punishment/etc?" makes no sense since you would only get maybe 80 years of delay before the eternity. And a benevolent God would have never put you into this position.

What makes it harder for me personally is how everyone keeps up their act. I feel like my sense of reality has been "cleaned" by the constant thought of suicide. If you strip away the masks then everyone is really just drowning themselves in distractions. But they're very good at it.

"one more product/experience"

Sometimes I'm full on 100% nihilistic. There really is no reason for humanity to exist at all.

I feel that nihilism is right.What reason is there for us to be born and die?.Billions of humans and animals and all kinds of creatures have lived and died.What makes us think that we're something special..?Just a kind of a more developed brain and ego?

 

[Jupiter]

The liquid will keep for many years if stored correctly much more than 2 years.
I have the powder which also lasts many years.

Yes. I think someone posted the part of the PPH lately that states that barbiturates are a long lasting substance.

 

[meowcat]

Are you in a country A doesn't send to?

Customs are extremely tight due to terrorist threats here.I've tried other chemicals in the past and they were intercepted by customs.

 

[creationisdeath]

Does N have to be kept in the fridge? Even if its still sealed?

According to A himself 2 years in a fridge.

It can be "good" for longer, but nobody is willing to definitively state more than 2 years.

 

[meowcat]

Are you in a country A doesn't send to?

It would be futile to try to order from A and have it sent to the country I live in.

 

[meowcat]

Are you in a country A doesn't send to?

Ideally if A sent n into Mexico itself,it would work but he does not do that.

 

[DyingToCTB]

The OP is suggesting he'd ctb right now if only he had N. I'd counter that by saying if the need to ctb was so urgent and unrelenting, he'd manage just fine without it.

I think the reason I found out about this site and N is because I need to CTB in a painless method. Owning N seems like the holy grail. We will hopefully get to test this theory.

 

[Deleted member 4993]

Ideally if A sent n into Mexico itself,it would work but he does not do that.

So how would you receive it from anyone else. If you want your details secret pm.

 

[bigj75]

How do i get in contact with A?

 

[WayOut]

Unfortunately it doesn't last very long. At least the official story is 2 years only if kept in the fridge. That's why I didn't buy N years ago when it was easier and a lot cheaper to do so.

Hang on. What "official story"?

... It can be "good" for longer, but nobody is willing to definitively state more than 2 years.

A gives the shelf life, as per him being a vet, basically. And as far as "nobody" being willing to definitively state etc etc, dude, go ask a junior chemistry student about stable compounds. You're fear mongering here. Like the nonsense about A being a known scammer and liar in other threads. Why are you doing this?

 

[Chinaski]

It's never "good" to be one, and certainly not ALL THE TIME. It's spreading your garbage onto others and it's a choice. It seems calling that out is against the rules here, but behaving that way over and over and over is acceptable. Bit ironic.

"You know the worst thing about this website which attracts numerous scammers, tedious sock-puppeting alts, genuinely malicious trolls, right-wing conspiracists, the odd sexual predator, outright liars and emotionally manipulative deceivers? It's that Chinaski guy who sees right through my phoney crap and as a result doesn't say the trite bullshit l expect."

 

[mattwitt]

I was reading the N megathread and was surprised to see so many people still had their N. If I order it and it comes, I would be drinking it the very first day.

For some people it's all about having a quick, reliable, peaceful way to end their life if and when they ever want to. It actually relieves a lot of pain people suffer from just knowing this. It's kind of like having a real shitty, stressful job and then one day you get a million dollars in your bank account. It's like would that job really be stressful anymore knowing you could quit at any time with no worries ?

 

[WayOut]

@oneofthesedays Dude, loving your contributions to this thread. No no, seriously, you're insightful, helpful, completely on topic, and on top of this, you're hilarious. Fuck Chinaski and JohnnyTheFox, boring shits both of them, never anything interesting or amusing to say. You're the dude who lights up the forum with your wit and charm. You're a legend. Please, post more.

 

[Johnnythefox]

For some people it's all about having a quick, reliable, peaceful way to end their life if and when they ever want to. It actually relieves a lot of pain people suffer from just knowing this. It's kind of like having a real shitty, stressful job and then one day you get a million dollars in your bank account. It's like would that job really be stressful anymore knowing you could quit at any time with no worries ?

I wouldn't have a job with a million in the bank!

 

[Johnnythefox]

I'm keeping out of this one.

 

[WayOut]

You are either Chinaski (98% chance) or another troll but nobody can lump @JohnnyThe Fox in with that lot. He is what you guys try and pretend to be...clever. Kind soul to boot...that's the real prize in a human being.

Thanks! I keep forgetting that.

 

[mattwitt]

 

[Johnnythefox]