How many people here are trolling or pretending they want to die for attention?

[amy joyce]

This occurred to me because I know there are quite a few people who attempt suicide that don't really want to die. They are screaming for help and because they're hurting make a half ass attempt.

I also wonder what the actual death rate is of people who post here about wanting to die. Is there a buddy recommendation or rule that if you decide to finalize your decision you let them know so some kind of tracking can be made? I think that would be a good idea. This is a particular dark subject and suggestion but I'm curious how many people really don't want to die but post about it for whatever reason between a person laugh to believing they do only to realize it was a lackadaisical thought they became obsessed about.

 

[wine is fine but]

it seems there are many members who have died, and some who have been saved, which considering the method many of those used, is a very risky way to get attention. one method is pretty much guaranteed, and if not found within around 40 minutes, there is no hope of being saved

i certainly hope at least one of them was a cop, a troll or just anything else, but sadly we will never know with most of them

 

[houseofleaves]

How many people here are trolling or pretending they want to die for attention? This occurred to me because I know there are quite a few people who attempt suicide that don't really want to die. They are screaming for help and because they're hurting make a half ass attempt.

Imho, not much. Making a half-assed attempt does not require researching a forum dedicated to quite the opposite: not making a half-assed attempt.

I also wonder what the actual death rate is of people who post here about wanting to die.

It does not matter. Some people come here in their worst moments, when they absolutely want to die, really do. But talking to others who understand them or just posting about their feelings without the all-prevaling censorship of traditional social media helps them feel a bit better and continue living. It does not mean their feelings are fake.

Is there a buddy recommendation or rule that if you decide to finalize your decision you let them know so some kind of tracking can be made? I think that would be a good idea.

No, and enforcing this rule would be impossible and weird.

 

[bl33ding_heart]

I genuinely wonder this too. I do believe majority of the people here are genuinely suffering. But at least a few are just edgelords. This may sound weird but I sent a friend of mine one of my posts on here a while back and he made an account on here just to stalk me. This dude is known for being an internet troll, and I noticed beyond stalking me he was also interacting with other people here. I don't know what exactly his intentions are with other people. I seriously regret ever introducing him to this site, and I didn't think sending him one of my posts here would warrantee something like this.

 

[SASU-KE]

Situations vary. There are people who want to commit but have a very high SI. They simply can't overcome it.

There are some who are extremely suicidal at one point and then change their minds because circumstances get better. Most on this particular site are definitely depressed or suicidal, but some also want to recover.

But yes, there are bad actors as well of course. But they are the minority.

 

[wine is fine but]

I genuinely wonder this too. I do believe majority of the people here are genuinely suffering

i wish everyone was faking it - it is sad enough reading some of the stories, but when someone you have had contact with leaves, it is devastating

I seriously regret ever introducing him to this site, and I didn't think sending him one of my posts here would warrantee something like this.

nothing warrants that kind of abysmal behaviour. everyone needs to be very, very careful who we let in on our suicidal thoughts. for the most part, no good can ever come from letting anyone know just how we feel

sadly, if we do learn at all, we tend to only learn from our own mistakes. the best way to learn is from other people's mistakes and use their experience, but we as humans do not tend to do that. even those who "know" better still fall into the same trap time and time again. perhaps it is because life loves a tragedy, or maybe we just get so consumed in what is happening, that we miss the obvious signs. it is always so much easier looking from the point of view of a detached person

 

[hurts2b]

Not totally sure what you mean. Just because not everyone who has suicidal thoughts goes through with it, that doesn't mean they're secretly disingenuous or unserious. It's not an easy decision (and a lot of us are stuck going back and forth about it).
Failed/half ass attempts can be cries for help, but they can also be "practice" for real attempts and an effort to overcome survival instinct. Finally, someone changing their mind later doesn't retroactively cancel out their suicidal thoughts, feelings and instincts. Regardless of what happens in the end, it's best to believe people when they say that they want to die.

A buddy/tracking system would likely open this place up to all kinds of legal trouble.

To your point though I've definitely had a troll under one of my posts and have seen this person under other people's posts too. Calling people losers retarded and the like.
I'm not too bothered though. I think this person must've been pretty young.
Regardless. If we're all losers, then it follows the trolls are losers too.

 

[pax420]

I'm not judging anybody on here. We are all here for one reason or another and deserve the respect as everybody else. Actually I wish nobody hated their life enough to end it but here we are. As far as a buddy tracking system?!?! Wtf! I guess next you'll want us to live stream the ctb for proof.

 

[wine is fine but]

As far as a buddy tracking system?!?! Wtf! I guess next you'll want us to live stream the ctb for proof.

she is very new here, but tragically lost a child to suicide recently, hence she is now looking to it for herself. she is also wondering if her son had an account here. most probably that has led to a suggestion that many here find to be un-necessary

we all have thoughts that seem weird to others, but at present, she is in the unenviable situation of being on both sides of the suicide fence. she has had a devasting loss, and also considering it for herself which will mean sometimes her posts seem to be pro (her) suicide, and others pro life. lastly, just like with any parent who has suffered such a tragedy, she seems to be feeling that her son didn't really want to die, but maybe did it because he backed himself into a corner and no one stopped him. this example might be totally wrong, but it is just a extension of the fact, she seems to believe her son did not want to die, and also seems to be the reason for this thread about whether or not people here really do wish to die or not. her life has been turned upside down and will never be the same or upright again, and she is trying to make some sense, where sadly, no sense can probably ever be made

 

[SASU-KE]

also wonder what the actual death rate is of people who post here about wanting to die

It's actually pretty high. I know a lot of people here who have passed away. Some of them were close friends of mine as well. It's one of the reasons I'm reluctant to make more friends here. The loss takes a huge toll.

But nothing really compares to your loss. You must be suffering immensely right now. I'm so sorry. I hope you can heal. Grieve your son, but slowly heal and get better.

When my mother died a little while ago, my first instinct was to catch the bus, but then I thought that if I passed away, who would grieve her? The dead deserve someone to grieve and mourn them.I hope things slowly get better for you, because the burden you're bearing cannot be held for too long either.

 

[wine is fine but]

It's actually pretty high. I know a lot of people here who have passed away. Some of them were close friends of mine as well. It's one of the reasons I'm reluctant to make more friends here. The loss takes a huge toll.

it can be and is immeasurable
i am embarrassed to admit this to even myself, because it feels so wrong, but losing someone here who i had never met, was never going to meet, and had limited contact with has hurt so much more than actually losing a friend just before the member here went
maybe that kind of devastation is good, because at present, i have no doubts at all, that if did die by my own hand soon, the place where i work would almost certainly send for a welfare check, if not on the first day i didn't show up but definitely on the second, so at least my loved ones would not have to find me. sadly, polishing the dull side is one of my strengths

 

[LilGhost]

This occurred to me because I know there are quite a few people who attempt suicide that don't really want to die. They are screaming for help and because they're hurting make a half ass attempt.

I also wonder what the actual death rate is of people who post here about wanting to die. Is there a buddy recommendation or rule that if you decide to finalize your decision you let them know so some kind of tracking can be made? I think that would be a good idea. This is a particular dark subject and suggestion but I'm curious how many people really don't want to die but post about it for whatever reason between a person laugh to believing they do only to realize it was a lackadaisical thought they became obsessed about.

Well... I assume since you are new here, you misinterpreted this website goal. It is not pro ctb website, it is pro-choice. This website accepts the decision you are about to make and provides you resources for both ctb and recovery. Some people here only for the resources on how to end things, some are looking for the community that accepts and understands, some want to get better. Wanting to die is not in particular standard for a human being. Like, people want to be saved and thats okay. I dont know, your message sounded very weird and condescending like "pretending they want to die for attention". Maybe its just me projecting and seeing an elephant in an empty room, it just sounded for me like a) not believing a person who wants to ctb and being like "if you want to do so, why are you still here", b) being passive aggressive towards such people. Like "people sh for attention" mindset.
As for tracking, its violation of privacy. I am planning to leave a small note right before my ctb, but it doesnt mean that people should feel forced to do so.
P.S. small suggestion is to check under what forum you post. Like this one would rather belong in ctb discussion or offtopic, but 100% not in recovery. Recovery is for people who wishes to get better, I dunno, again maybe its just because of the

Spoiler: personal reasons

Example. Before my last attempt, my psychologist said "well you dont look like you will ctb very soon", so I had to prove them wrong ^^. Or my sister not taking my cries for help seriously, cause I never told her about my previous ctb attempts

, I found the message you sent very uncomfortable, so I would assume it could accidentally trigger someone who is here to feel better, so it is better to check where do you post to avoiid it (imho).
Anyway. I hope you will figure your stuff out!