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What is FUD?At this point you're spreading FUD, stop it. The PPeH is there and is reliable, your accounts or noted accounts are not. Your only intention is to spread fear on this method and PPeH in general, which is FUD.
Also vomiting won't occur if you take a high dose meto (60mg) 30mins before. So those people you're basing your data of off were not following the best way to do this.
Thank you CrushedHopesFear, uncertainty and doubt. AKA fear mongering.
True. These were accidental poisonings and they also didn't follow the protocol. Looks like they gave the cat a super high dose since it passed away in 15 minutes.Most of these cases were less than 5g. Heck, there is only one case where the person ingested more than 1g.
Why the continued fear mongering? We out here tryna get out in peace
You're an idot try to scare people!True. These were accidental poisonings and they also didn't follow the protocol. Looks like they gave the cat a super high dose since it passed away in 15 minutes.
Stan what do think of all these scary reports!!!???What's SN?
How is cat supposed to follow protocol???True. These were accidental poisonings and they also didn't follow the protocol. Looks like they gave the cat a super high dose since it passed away in 15 minutes.
You're an idot try to scare people!
Stan what do think of all these scary reports!!!???
How is cat supposed to follow protocol???
How could you treat an animal like that way!? Stupid report!
Oh please! Paleness!!!! Cyanosis is my response. If someone is going to scaremonger at least get the facts right!
- Symptoms in child: crying, falling to ground, vomiting, paleness, weakness, limp limbs
- Outcomes:
- One person (child) died
- Ran almost 300 feet after eating sodium nitrite
- Died before physician arrived, not more than 15 minutes after mother found him
If I had a cat that could scream, I would make a youtube channel with it, not kill it.Cat fed sodium nitrite and died
- To verify our opinion that sodium nitrite is a violent poison, and was the cause of this child's death, we administered 65 milligrams (1 grain) in a capsule to a cat weighing 2.6 pounds. In five minutes, the cat sprawled on the floor and began screaming. The screaming slowly died down and violent vomiting began. Four minutes later it lost control of its muscles, and in six minutes more, 15 minutes after the dose was given, the cat was dead."
Child running and cat screaming... nice for a good laugh...looks like that story is made up. You can't trust anything you read on the internet...lol.The wiki has been hacked folks so don't even go there. Anyone at all can edit it.
Oh please! Paleness!!!! Cyanosis is my response. If someone is going to scaremonger at least get the facts right!
If I had a cat that could scream, I would make a youtube channel with it, not kill it.
Thank goodness it's not real! Crazy stuff.Child running and cat screaming... nice for a good laugh...looks like that story is made up. You can't trust anything you read on the internet...lol.
The wiki has been hacked folks so don't even go there. Anyone at all can edit it.
Oh please! Paleness!!!! Cyanosis is my response. If someone is going to scaremonger at least get the facts right!
If I had a cat that could scream, I would make a youtube channel with it, not kill it.
Love you Stan.So here is the problem. We have negative aspects about SN being this or that (all things negative)without much counterbalance. Here are my thoughts. Pro-lifers will infiltrate the forum from time to time and give horror stories to try and put you off. You also have survivor stories. Now some of these may be real members, and some pro-lifers. If a real member has gone through an attempt and are posting within hours or a day or two, it is likely that they are not in a good place. They maybe in hospital or some type of facility and are feeling terrible. They might be displacing the sense of failure on 'it was the SN, not me'. When you really read their story most of the time they were found, called an ambulance themselves or did not go through the whole process only drinking a small bit. These people need our sympathy not our interrogation. And to be honest, I read those stories with a slightly angled head because of the reason I mentioned above. There are enough medical reports and news articles that people pass on a regular basis through SN.
One user who I regularly mention is @Funkygibbon. He used SN at least twice to cbt. He was a frank and honest user. Admitted the first time he did something stupid which was to go into his front garden to have his last smoke and ended up collapsing outside and being saved by his neighbour. He did not find the effects bad and proceeded to do it again with success. He did not dress up the story, admitted his failure was doing something stupid and I admired greatly his honesty. If it was that bad as people are mentioning above I don't think he would have done it twice.
We really have to think about rehashing negative stories because at least one person will believe them and put them off potentially from an affordable and humane way to cbt. So I must admit I am annoyed that those stories were put here. And to be honest it is not the first time @Rdc has been called out for doing something like this.
Peacefulness for amitriptyline was 8/10 I think, and if I wait a few months I can get the 10 grams, and I already have the meto, benzos, opiates - seems better than SN from the numbers7/10 peaceful, not painful. So it's 3/10 painful... unless you're telling me N is the most painful way at 10/10
Check screenshots, read to PPeH
This is why I don't listen to a lot of negative things about sn. From what I read it's a great method and works. I'll have some discomfort because I didn't have all of the meds but nothing worse than I've already felt.So here is the problem. We have negative aspects about SN being this or that (all things negative)without much counterbalance. Here are my thoughts. Pro-lifers will infiltrate the forum from time to time and give horror stories to try and put you off. You also have survivor stories. Now some of these may be real members, and some pro-lifers. If a real member has gone through an attempt and are posting within hours or a day or two, it is likely that they are not in a good place. They maybe in hospital or some type of facility and are feeling terrible. They might be displacing the sense of failure on 'it was the SN, not me'. When you really read their story most of the time they were found, called an ambulance themselves or did not go through the whole process only drinking a small bit. These people need our sympathy not our interrogation. And to be honest, I read those stories with a slightly angled head because of the reason I mentioned above. There are enough medical reports and news articles that people pass on a regular basis through SN.
One user who I regularly mention is @Funkygibbon. He used SN at least twice to cbt. He was a frank and honest user. Admitted the first time he did something stupid which was to go into his front garden to have his last smoke and ended up collapsing outside and being saved by his neighbour. He did not find the effects bad and proceeded to do it again with success. He did not dress up the story, admitted his failure was doing something stupid and I admired greatly his honesty. If it was that bad as people are mentioning above I don't think he would have done it twice.
We really have to think about rehashing negative stories because at least one person will believe them and put them off potentially from an affordable and humane way to cbt. So I must admit I am annoyed that those stories were put here. And to be honest it is not the first time @Rdc has been called out for doing something like this.
The more you read the PPH the more you notice the mistakes. I would go with more than 20g of SN just to be sure.
I am not an expert, but I've done many research, from carbon monoxide to hanging, using N and finally SN. Any CTB method can be painful, even N.don't believe the PPH