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JustLosingMyself

Mage
Sep 4, 2018
544
I go to therapy and psychiatrist because I feel forced to by my employer and my wife.
Every time I was honest and forthcoming with mental health professionals I bitterly regret.
I go. I answer whatever question with very vague noncommittal responses.
I leave with a prescription for meds I will not take.
If truly the outcome of these interventions depends on the quality of the 'therapeutic alliance' I wonder why bother.
 
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TotallyIsolated

Mage
Nov 25, 2019
590
I go to therapy and psychiatrist because I feel forced to by my employer and my wife.
Every time I was honest and forthcoming with mental health professionals I bitterly regret.
I go. I answer whatever question with very vague noncommittal responses.
I leave with a prescription for meds I will not take.
If truly the outcome of these interventions depends on the quality of the 'therapeutic alliance' I wonder why bother.
If you don't put anything into therapy then of course it isn't going to work.

Why go if you don't want to?
 
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Astronomer

Astronomer

GIF Geek
Oct 6, 2020
149
I was too honest and got sectioned.

Never again.

However that is just my situation.
 
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TotallyIsolated

Mage
Nov 25, 2019
590
It keeps some people off my back
I'm sorry I was a bit harsh, and that you had bad experiences with therapy.

The pressure to "be better" is really unhelpful. I'm sure it would be a different experience if it was your choice to go to therapy.
 
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Niftypoint124

Student
Nov 7, 2020
117
A good rule of thumb is to make sure someone is a trustworthy professional that's working for your benefit over all else. It sucks, but you kind of hanve to shop for therapists like a good pair of work shoes. You're not picking them out for how they look, or their logo, or a slick website, but for how they'll be able to support you in the day-to-day. It takes time to find a good therapist, though most (at least in the US) ask for an initial appointment before taking you on as a patient. Think of this first appointment like a job interview FOR YOUR THERAPIST. Ask them questions about situations, mental health things -- try to trip them up a bit, when possible. You need to know who you're working with, and that first appointment is the opportunity to do so.
 
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Gnip

Bill the Cat
Oct 10, 2020
621
If you don't put anything into therapy then of course it isn't going to work.

With a competent therapist, the more resistant the client, the more effective the treatment. Unfortunately, 9999.999% of all therapists are completely incompetent.

One of the rare exceptions was Milton H. Erickson, late in his life. For one demonstration, he brought a powerful young antiauthority dude up to the stage before students at the auditorium where he was giving his presentation. This big strong man really had a chip on his shoulder and figured he'd put the legendary psychiatrist in his place. As they shook hands, he tried to crush Erickson's hand into dust. MS merely asked him, "Would you be willing not to see your left foot?" To the thug's astonishment, his foot was instantly invisible to him! (As a seven year old boy on his family's farm, young Erickson watched silently as a bunch of big strong farmhands tried in vain to drag a resistant large animal into a barn before rains came. The more they yanked, pulled and tugged, the more the animal pulled back in resistance. Then, without saying a word, young Erickson walked up behind the animal, took hold of the tail, gave it a sharp yank, and the beast bolted forward into the barn.)

Milton Erickson died 40 years ago, yet therapy is not 40 years better than when he passed away, but 400 years WORSE!

If I tell you (and this is the classic example in covert suggestion), "Don't think of elephants!," just how much effort do you have to put into thinking of elephants.

Every single therapist who needs a client or patient to put anything into treatment is a COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT THERAPIST!!! NO EXCEPTIONS!

For temporarily relieving my Major Depressive Disorder for several months in 1996 and 1997, all the effort I needed to put into it was the effort of swallowing the Prozac I was prescribed. If a therapist requires more from any client or patient to be effective, then that so called therapist should go into a completely different line of work, like bussing restaurant tables or collecting garbage.


The most effective therapists not only do not require you to put anything into therapy, but the more you resist, the more effective they are.

Actually, the truly great ones aside from Milton Erickson, like Dave Elman, Kreskin and Tony Robbins (who regardless was not able to help me), never even attended college, and that is not a coincidence.

Richard Bandler, the co creator of Neuro Linguistic Programming and developer of Design Human Engineering flunked psychology in college and described NLP as his revenge.

One exception aside from Bandler and Erickson with an advanced college degree is Steven Heller. With his PhD, he is fond of saying that PhD is an abbreviation which stands for Piled Higher and Deeper. (I've read "Monsters and Magical Sticks: There's No Such Thing As HYPNOSIS?" and Heller's a pretty cool guy.)

Everybody I've ever met with a degree in mental health is a completely incompetent therapist, and that includes EVERYBODY I met in the mental health unit of the hospital where I worked for eight years out of high school. Combined with my experiences getting infected with iatrogenic depression from fuckhead school psychologist, I have since strictly confined myself to the services of psychiatric prescribers who hate therapy as much as I do and confine themselves strictly to the medicine of mental disturbances.
 
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Marauder

why keep existing when you´re no living?
Sep 9, 2020
97
I would say 95%.
I didnt tell him I have a gun licence bacause I dont want to lose it.
 
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Gnip

Bill the Cat
Oct 10, 2020
621
I would say 95%.
I didn't tell him I have a gun licence because I don't want to lose it.

While I actually had my psychiatrist, a military veteran like his father before him, actually examine my father's 1951 6.35 Beretta Brevet Gardone V.T. he got in Italy in exchange for a pack of Lucky Strike cigarettes while in the USMC (Smallest gun Beretta ever made. Not especially valuable, but I've shot it, and it would definitely do the job. Not a method anybody familiar with Final Exit or the PPH would ever likely employ however. Of course in the United States, one hardly needs a gun license to own one or have one custom made.)
 
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HelloHell

HelloHell

Arcanist
Dec 26, 2019
443
I told my counselor about my chronic suicidality and he thanked me for being honest
I didn't mention that I spent most of my days on a suicide forum discussing suicide and researching methods tho
 
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Allan that was

Member
Feb 20, 2020
18
Guys this thread is dead! Stop responding to it! I've decided that I'm not gonna seek out professional support, since its usueless. I'm just going to try and improve my life until my deadline. If i haven't fixed my life at that point I'm going to kill myself as simple as that. I like that people have responded don't get me wrong. But when you are as worthless as I an, fixing life to not bother other people is as good as it gets
 

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