Discussion How have your discussions about suicide gone in real life with other people?

[TAW122]

I have skirted on the topic of euthanasia and it generally seems like the people I spoke with are very much against it. They recognize and acknowledge how bad life is for the severely disabled and possibly terminally ill, yet for some irrational and emotional (as well as selfish) reason(s), they still decide that it is 'bad' according to their standards (and society's).

I'm a bit astonished to how people can knowingly comprehend that quality of life sucks for people in such dire predicaments yet do the mental gymnastics to refuse to think rationally and accept (not agree) that some people just simply don't find life to be worth living if their quality of life is horrible. It certainly doesn't help that many people who have serious disabling conditions and lead a low quality of life (objectively speaking - like needing to have assistance with everyday things, basic needs, loss of hobbies and/or compromised hobbies) still view life worth living. That's great for them and I applaud those people for it, but since the majority of people in those predicaments are pro-life (terminally ill people, those with serious medical conditions - both mental and physical), it only ever makes it harder for the people who wish to die rationally and are wanting to make that choice for themselves.

 

[UninformedLover]

I rarely talk about these kinds of things with people to spare myself from their ignorance but from the few conversations I had with my mother it's clear she doesn't take suicide or mental health seriously. At all.

 

[hatelife]

one of the doctors just told me at the recent ect treatment that sucicide is not an option, when I was saying that im going to kill myself if this last thing ect dont work, they dont get it, I also told my mom about it, she understands better, but still feel sad, I think she gets it, in how much hell and pain im in, everyone that has empathy would get it, its not easy u try and live with intrusive thoughts and ocd, u know its ruined my life also my hairloss, do u know what life is like for me? hellhole, worst part about it I feel God hates me, I pray for him to make my life better, make me mentally healthy like before and have my hair back to normal, I try everything, nothing works, Im sick of trying and trying, and ect made my ocd worse now, it had cleared up but now its worse, Im all alone, dont have anybody, I have nobody to talk to, only my parents, the holidays makes me feel even lonlier, I see how alone I am, ppl are mean and shallow, fuck everybody truly from the bottom of my heart, (not you guys).

 

[Secrets1]

one of the doctors just told me at the recent ect treatment that sucicide is not an option, when I was saying that im going to kill myself if this last thing ect dont work, they dont get it, I also told my mom about it, she understands better, but still feel sad, I think she gets it, in how much hell and pain im in, everyone that has empathy would get it, its not easy u try and live with intrusive thoughts and ocd, u know its ruined my life also my hairloss, do u know what life is like for me? hellhole, worst part about it I feel God hates me, I pray for him to make my life better, make me mentally healthy like before and have my hair back to normal, I try everything, nothing works, Im sick of trying and trying, and ect made my ocd worse now, it had cleared up but now its worse, Im all alone, dont have anybody, I have nobody to talk to, only my parents, the holidays makes me feel even lonlier, I see how alone I am, ppl are mean and shallow, fuck everybody truly from the bottom of my heart, (not you guys).

I think the whole "suicide is not an option" is a trained practitioners response. Said repeatedly and genuinely, with a little bit of power behind it. I've heard that too. Would be interested to learn what belief system or theory it came from.

 

[BorderingDeath]

I think this song sums it all up for a lot of people.

 

[hatelife]

I think the whole "suicide is not an option" is a trained practitioners response. Said repeatedly and genuinely, with a little bit of power behind it. I've heard that too. Would be interested to learn what belief system or theory it came from.

yeah this particular one is one that seems to want to make me feel better, I think he notice my hairloss so the little I have left he said like I have a nice hairline when putting on me electrodes and thats why he pretends he cares, but truly he doesnt, ppl only care for themselves, I know I do..

 

[TAW122]

@Secrets1 Yeah I think that mental health professionals and anyone in the medical or professional field is programmed (trained) to say certain things and believe certain things. It's sorta like the sales person who is selling a product (despite the product being subpar or crap), the person selling it is ignoring the negatives and emphasizing the positives (in order to make a sale).

I think he notice my hairloss so the little I have left he said like I have a nice hairline when putting on me electrodes and thats why he pretends he cares, but truly he doesnt, ppl only care for themselves, I know I do..

The last part of your sentence makes sense. In the real world and reality, most people are caring for their survival in a collective environment, in this case, society. Thus, they are first and foremost, going to cover their asses (CYA in this case) to avoid losing their livelihood (job, career, income, etc.), then personal beliefs second (if it ever came to it).

 

[BorderingDeath]

I rarely talk about these kinds of things with people to spare myself from their ignorance but from the few conversations I had with my mother it's clear she doesn't take suicide or mental health seriously. At all.

Yeah, until it actually happens. Then they all cry and wonder why.

 

[UninformedLover]

Yeah, until it actually happens. Then they all cry and wonder why.

Yup! Wondering "Oh where did I go wrong???" Even though all the signs were there. Smh.

 

[lostangel]

It was not about my suicide but instead about a suicide in my sisters class in college. The guy died in a car crash. I'm pretty sure. I didn't bring it up my sister did. As the conversation continued my mother who was also there said ''people who do that are very disturbed''. I didn't say or contribute anything into that conversation. I remained silent and thought to myself ''wow I didn't think other people saw people like me like that''. This was well over a year ago.

 

[ARW3N]

I don't talk much to other people about my suicidal thoughts because it's basically the "Don't do it!" or "You'll go to hell!" rote responses.

 

[134340]

Most often I get something about how much it will hurt my family. Like I don't worry about that enough already. I understand though, it's scary for someone who isn't in my position, who doesn't know the extent of what goes on in my head to grasp the concept of truly wanting to end it.

 

[jrums]

My mother cried when I told her that I will commit suicide. She even said she is going to do it herself if I do it. She loves me too much unfortunately but I can't live like this forever.

Same here. My mother is such a sweet women but the neurological damage I have is too much. I try to ease her into the idea but it doesn't work. My dad is more rational. Either way it has to go how it has to go.

 

[enjoy]

my best friend is very worried, my dad said "boo-hoo". ex used freak out every time i attempted. i think part of why she left is that she didn't want to deal with it anymore. now, she doesn't give a single shit.

 

[Tapuh]

My girl said that i was only saying it for attention and didnt react much. Feels like no one cares, until you actually do it and then they all cry and wish they could help. Havent really talked about it since.