Help How does Nembutal feel?

[true-ending]

I'm not planning to CTB with it. I'm fully aware it's almost impossible to get now. But I'd like to know how it feels to die using. Are there any particular sources I could be pointed toward? Aside from the basic "It'll kill you!" information, it's hard to find a description of how those who die using it respond- I'm fully willing to talk hypotheticals here, too, since it's hard to get reports from the deceased themselves.

 

[KIRBYGHOST]

Sleepy eepy and then boom ur dead

U jus peacefully fall asleep in literal seconds and within 5-10 minutes ur dead yea i would definitely understand how one simply cant report back when they drop the dose

 

[grimthor44]

Man what I would give to have enough to CTB with

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

To me 12.6 grams Nembutal would the best medecine for me , cures all my ails, and all my problems at once

you just fall asleep and then to non-existence forever

 

[ididnotconsent]

Sleepy eepy and then boom ur dead

U jus peacefully fall asleep in literal seconds and within 5-10 minutes ur dead yea i would definitely understand how one simply cant report back when they drop the dose

If you take it orally, it takes a few minutes to fall asleep. IV it takes like 30 seconds to a min.

Death after oral ingestion occurs in 20-30 minutes for the vast majority of people. IV takes just a few minutes.

 

[J&L383]

Sleepy eepy and then boom ur dead

U jus peacefully fall asleep in literal seconds and within 5-10 minutes ur dead yea i would definitely understand how one simply cant report back when they drop the dose

More like 5 to 10 minutes until you're asleep if taken orally. Somewhat quicker rectally. Seconds if intravenously. And yes, nobody's been able to report back about exactly what happens after the sleeping starts, but death occurs within 20 minutes to maybe an hour.

 

[ididnotconsent]

More like 5 to 10 minutes until you're asleep if taken orally. Somewhat quicker rectally. Seconds if intravenously. And yes, nobody's been able to report back about exactly what happens after the sleeping starts, but death occurs within 20 minutes to maybe an hour.

There are people who have survived Nembutal ingestion due to panic and notifying their loved ones, and later being revived at a hospital. I assume they felt nothing while asleep.

 

[Michelstaedter]

Sometimes I get scared, imagining I'll fall asleep and never wake up, but deep down I wish it were that way. It doesn't matter anyway, I just want to vanish from this fucking world.

The positive thing is that when I get really sleepy, I just let myself go. I'm not scared anymore, I don't care about anything. I imagine it must be something like that.

 

[bankai]

10 grams is the recommended amount for successful CTB, according to the handbook. It's supposed to be a really good way to go.

 

[intr0verse]

I don't understand the reason why Philip Nitschke got to 10 grams from the 6 he seemed perfectly fine with for several years; did people woke up after consuming just one bottle, without medical intervention? IMO the new recommendation has to do more with the time-to-death than the lethality itself.

 

[qwert3948]

Sleepy eepy and then boom ur dead

U jus peacefully fall asleep in literal seconds and within 5-10 minutes ur dead yea i would definitely understand how one simply cant report back when they drop the dose

sounds like a dream. is it actually that hard to get ur hands on it?

 

[ididnotconsent]

It probably takes much longer if you only take 6 and is not as reliable. I'm sure the Swiss assisted death clinics use 15G for a reason.

 

[intr0verse]

It probably takes much longer if you only take 6 and is not as reliable. I'm sure the Swiss assisted death clinics use 15G for a reason.

Sure, their reason is to do it quickly so that any family/friends witnessing the process won't have to wait 2 hours.

 

[SomewhatLoved]

If IV: probably like when you're being put under surgery and they make you count back from 10 and you just pass out. It would be fast. As some other commentors have said, no more than 30-60 seconds,

If oral/rectal: I would imagine it's just like you start to feel very sleepy and then just lose consciousness.

Barbiturates can also cause euphoria, so there might be some pleasant/blissful feelings.

 

[Talvikki]

I don't understand the reason why Philip Nitschke got to 10 grams from the 6 he seemed perfectly fine with for several years; did people woke up after consuming just one bottle, without medical intervention? IMO the new recommendation has to do more with the time-to-death than the lethality itself.

You're right, this is what Philip Nitschke said not too long ago (2024) about the 6-gram and 10-gram doses of Nembutal.

Text book lethal dose of pentobarbital sodium is 10gm. but this is an inexact figure.. veterinary anaesthetic Nembutal has a concentration of 65mg/ml so 100ml has 6.5gm..to satisfy 'textbook' lethal requirements ~130ml would be needed for 10gm...as the product comes sealed in 100ml bottles, so most purchase and take x2 bottles ie 200ml or 13gm, (although I've never seen anyone survive after drinking 1 bottle..)

I've not seen a failure with 100ml @ 65mg/ml anaesthetic N, as long as good anti emetic, and long time (24hrs) before discovery put in place.

24 hours is being super cautious. It is because occasionally some people (very few, <1%) take a longer time to die, for reasons not well understood. There is often no explanation. They do not recover - but stay unconscious for hours longer than normal before death, and, if discovered, and given emergency oxygen, could be resucitated.

Without medical intervention, 6.5 gm taken orally kills, eventually. We've seen no documented exceptions.

 

[intr0verse]

Looking back and reading through old posts, i was amazed by how sure peole were they will fail with less than 2 bottles and even recomended others that one single bottle won't do it. Just a few, Ark, Asta and maybe a handful of others spoke out and said you know, this is crazy, there are no cases of survival with 6 grams unless we're talking about early discovery and medical intervention. If i'm not mistaken, Asta used only one bottle whereas Ark used a bit over 6 grams; i even know a case where a member used liquid N with obvious sign of degradation (precipitate on the bottom of the bottle) and they're all successful. I do understand SI and the fear of failure though.

 

[s00ngone]

Sometimes I get scared, imagining I'll fall asleep and never wake up, but deep down I wish it were that way. It doesn't matter anyway, I just want to vanish from this fucking world.

The positive thing is that when I get really sleepy, I just let myself go. I'm not scared anymore, I don't care about anything. I imagine it must be something like that.

It scares me, too. Even though it feels like the least of all evils as far as death goes, there's something so chilling about imagining your consciousness fizzling out while you sleep.

 

[EternalShore]

sorry, idk, but from what I understand, it's more peaceful and quick than a lot of other methods! just very difficult to get ahold of~ >_<
what I came here to say is that when I read the thread title, I immediately thought you were describing Nembutal as a person and asking how it felt~ If Nembutal felt bad or good it was being used for sewer slide! rofl~

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

It scares me, too. Even though it feels like the least of all evils as far as death goes, there's something so chilling about imagining your consciousness fizzling out while you sleep.

it's going to happen anyway to every single human , consciousness and me obliterated for all time forever non-existence

every human will die and cease to exist forever after 1 micro-second after their brain dies Death

 

[s00ngone]

it's going to happen anyway to every single human , consciousness and me obliterated for all time forever non-existence

every human will die and cease to exist forever after 1 micro-second after their brain dies Death

This being true, being conscious of your imminent death is something most humans aren't going to face. Keyword most - some, many of us included, very much do. So the fact that we're all going to die is a minor consolation for the about-to-die (but a consolation still).

 

[Michelstaedter]

It scares me, too. Even though it feels like the least of all evils as far as death goes, there's something so chilling about imagining your consciousness fizzling out while you sleep.

I was thinking about it today, because no matter what, I need to work for a while to find a more efficient method, keeping in mind that I won't find Nembutal easily or for free. However, when I think about the need to inject Nembutal, I'll have to be prepared for the symptoms and know that it can cause more anxiety than actually doing it.
In the end, I think it's instinct, ego, and so many other things that generate fear of "nothingness." I feel something we won't fully understand, but the closest thing is sleeping and not waking up. It scares me. I won't lie that it's not true, but naturally, one day I'll have to face it, and I'd rather do it than I can even do it on my own.

 

[s00ngone]

I was thinking about it today, because no matter what, I need to work for a while to find a more efficient method, keeping in mind that I won't find Nembutal easily or for free. However, when I think about the need to inject Nembutal, I'll have to be prepared for the symptoms and know that it can cause more anxiety than actually doing it.
In the end, I think it's instinct, ego, and so many other things that generate fear of "nothingness." I feel something we won't fully understand, but the closest thing is sleeping and not waking up. It scares me. I won't lie that it's not true, but naturally, one day I'll have to face it, and I'd rather do it than I can even do it on my own.

SN being my method of choice, I've thought a lot about what it's gonna feel like to drift away into nothingness. That's just one of those things you can't think your way into. I know I'm no more prepared to face death now than when I first decided that SN was a legitimate option, and that that terror will be all-consuming in my final moments should I have the will to go through with it. It scares me, too, but you and I will face it like we all must.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

This being true, being conscious of your imminent death is something most humans aren't going to face. Keyword most - some, many of us included, very much do. So the fact that we're all going to die is a minor consolation for the about-to-die (but a consolation still).

That might be true for humans who think life / consciousness / existence is something good .

But for someone Who is in a nightnare suffering extremely or who hates life and this world Death is the escape the salvation the ultimate victory

I don't fear Death / non-existence forever. It's the ultimate bliss to me, finally out of danger. I fear life and living as I'm always under threat of extreme torture. And I have to work job and chores just to exist as a slave uncomfortable under that threat of extreme torture .

Non-existence forever means no suffering no pain problems nor bad memories ever

Only while alive or existing can I suffer.

Eternal Non-existence is the only guarantee of never suffering so badly the suffering is a trillion times worse than u can imagine.

for 13.8 billion years i didn't have any problems before I was born . So why would I be afraid to return to that state of not existing?

What am I? A brain that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain. Why is that something good? It's not to me it's something very bad a horrible abomination . So I'm supposed to not want this to end now? Why do I have to live to remain trapped in this needy fragile bag of cells with this abomination? Why do I have to want to live? I don't

Why is my consciousness so special ? At what point in evolution is it different from a mouse , crow, fish , fly , cricket ?



What is a brain, large neural networks. .

What is Ai ? Large neural networks

Ilya Sutskever's "Deep Learning Hypothesis" suggests that a large, 10-layer neural network could perform any task a human can do in a fraction of a second. This hypothesis, articulated in his 2014 NIPS talk, proposes that sufficient size and complexity in a neural network can enable it to replicate human capabilities.

 

[Carrot]

More like 5 to 10 minutes until you're asleep if taken orally. Somewhat quicker rectally. Seconds if intravenously. And yes, nobody's been able to report back about exactly what happens after the sleeping starts, but death occurs within 20 minutes to maybe an hour.

20-60 minutes seems so long. I'm not saying it's wrong, it just feels so long. I only have SN and I hope it will go quickly.

I can only imagine how N feels. Like falling asleep and that's it, the last thing you remember and feel. I had multiple surgeries under under anaesthesia, they cut my body during it, you just don't remember or feel anything, no matter what they do. Having experienced something like this is calming, I know our bodies can just ignore all pain under certain circumstances.

Of course there might be something about death or pre-death that we don't know.

 

[notreallybored]

ב''ה, I do not have experience with barbs unless they were in any surgical anesthesia I've ever had (and these days they usually start with an IV benzo as probably supplanted any for safety), but both benzos and barbs are GABA A (that's GABA subscript A) agonists.

Well, really benzos are purely modulators, hence their relative safety (hit every BZD receptor in the body and you may still be breathing), while barbs somehow go to actually acting like GABA at the GABA A receptors, as can take that to the lethal levels of sedation.

So, same receptors same effects, I'm going to call it "drunk without the mess," and expect that the two drug classes feel fairly similar.

Meanwhile, if you ever get your hands on a GABA B agonist (Phenibut), I certainly seem to have survived that one repeatedly but something about the B receptor *does* allow for the horrible vertigo and hours and hours of empty stomach drunk spins upon withdrawal.

With benzos and thus probably barbs, aside from any issues from not breathing during if you did not, it's just "the good part of being drunk," into somnolence, and should you wake up after the nap, maybe some grogginess and eventually rebound anxiety (far later unless something really short acting like Xanax), and not saying your cognition won't be beer-goggled but that's rather hard to notice while cheerfully GABA A'd up.

So aside from any issues of taste/irritation if oral as doesn't seem to be too much problem, I'm going to say this really would be very pleasant. With an IV benzo push for surgery you perhaps get almost a minute of "yay, thanks doc," before it goes all the way to not keeping the eyes open. (Of course then other anesthesia is used to maintain full sedation to actually being operated on so don't get too clever knowing that.) I really don't know and don't want to think of the IV characteristics of N as might be a can of worms (obviously some folks have had for non-lethal reasons, so does it have a sensation or is it fully pleasant?), but if it's tolerable orally.. the actual drug effect should just be like the deep pleasant sleep of a benzo "but moreso," where the moreso includes suppression of the life sustaining autonomous stuff after complete sedation.

It probably really is the 'fully automated luxury' way to go. If you want to get all fancy or have an actual chronic painful condition, I'm sure taking a known preferred amount of opiate/opioid pain medication with would probably further enhance the pleasantness.