Discussion How do I ask around for SN without being suspicious?

[figcitylightscookie]

I live in Jordan, and I'm not sure if SN is illegal here. I tried looking it up online, but since Jordan is a -not so tech savvy- third world country, I couldn't find anything. I found some online SN sources, but they say they can't ship it to my country (it was a quick Google search, so I don't think they're reliable sources. I'm only saying this to explain why I'm assuming SN could be illegal here). I looked on Facebook and found 1 person from Jordan asking where to buy it; he asked twice: his first post was ignored, and he got an answer on the second post. His posts are 3 years old, so I'm not sure if the answer still checks out (also, people tend to just say random shops' names when they don't actually know if they have the wanted item or not, so I'm assuming the guy who answered just said the name of the only chemicals store he knew). A bit unrelated, but I found a post from an Egyptian group also asking for SN, and someone replied: "If I were an admin, I'd ban you right now." Someone asked him what was wrong with the question, but he never responded. I'm not sure if it's known here that SN is a suicide chemical, and I could get in legal trouble if someone knew I was going to use it to commit suicide.

The only option I believe I have is to go around and ask chemical stores if they have SN (either through their Facebook pages or in-store). However, if SN is illegal, I don't have any excuse to protect myself. Usually, when I buy things I don't want others to know are for me, I say I'm buying them for a friend. However, I'm scared they'll ask why my friend would want SN. I know it's used for food preservation, but what homemade foods would need SN to be preserved? I read here that when someone ordered SN, the box said something about it being a pottery material, but I couldn't find anything about SN actually being used for pottery (or any crafts in general). Moreover, if it's not illegal, how do I ask for it to be 99% pure without being suspicious?

I would appreciate any help. Thank you x

 

[Kalista]

I read here that when someone ordered SN, the box said something about it being a pottery material

the package itself is not labeled as SN. the reason why it's labeled as pottery material. it tricks the reader that the substance is for arts and crafts.

I live in Jordan, and I'm not sure if SN is illegal here.

doesn't seem to be illegal. you'd have to ask the sellers if there are extra requirements for individual purchase.

have a reason ready that you'll be using the sn for food preservation, to improve meat flavor (bacon, ham, sausages, hot dogs) or whatever else that makes sense.

 

[figcitylightscookie]

the package itself is not labeled as SN. the reason why it's labeled as pottery material. it tricks the reader that the substance is for arts and crafts.

I understand that; a box marked as such could trick the reader into thinking it's a crafting material, but I cannot trick a person I'm directly talking to into thinking SN is a crafting material. Does that make sense? I need an excuse I can use to get someone to sell me SN.

doesn't seem to be illegal. you'd have to ask the sellers if there are extra requirements for individual purchase.

What makes you sure it's not illegal?

have a reason ready that you'll be using the sn for food preservation, to improve meat flavor (bacon, ham, sausages, hot dogs) or whatever else that makes sense.

I'm looking for a reason that makes sense. Butchers here are men, and I am not. It would not make sense for me to buy SN to preserve meat because I won't be able to convince them I'm a butcher, and it wouldn't make sense for me to try to preserve meat I buy because the butchers already do what they need to do to preserve their product.

 

[xxxbmw]

I asked someone as well. He told me to to say that I'm starting a local business and I need it to preserve pepperoni. He also told me to include other stuff with your order as well such as 2.3 grams fermenting culture. 3 c distilled water. He also said number 2 cure ( they write it as no 2 or just # 2) and no 1 cure. I didn't understand much what he meant by these last two cuz no 1 cure is 6.25% sodium nitrite and I think 9.75% salt. But I read that the Sn should be > 95%. I researched online and I think it that the mixed solution should be 6.25%. I can't think that clearly right now I did my best to explain, I hope that it helped. And if you figure out what he means by researching then I hope that you explain to me as my mind is foggy. I'm from the Middle East by the way living in Canada

 

[unfortunateluck99]

I live in Jordan, and I'm not sure if SN is illegal here. I tried looking it up online, but since Jordan is a -not so tech savvy- third world country, I couldn't find anything. I found some online SN sources, but they say they can't ship it to my country (it was a quick Google search, so I don't think they're reliable sources. I'm only saying this to explain why I'm assuming SN could be illegal here). I looked on Facebook and found 1 person from Jordan asking where to buy it; he asked twice: his first post was ignored, and he got an answer on the second post. His posts are 3 years old, so I'm not sure if the answer still checks out (also, people tend to just say random shops' names when they don't actually know if they have the wanted item or not, so I'm assuming the guy who answered just said the name of the only chemicals store he knew). A bit unrelated, but I found a post from an Egyptian group also asking for SN, and someone replied: "If I were an admin, I'd ban you right now." Someone asked him what was wrong with the question, but he never responded. I'm not sure if it's known here that SN is a suicide chemical, and I could get in legal trouble if someone knew I was going to use it to commit suicide.

The only option I believe I have is to go around and ask chemical stores if they have SN (either through their Facebook pages or in-store). However, if SN is illegal, I don't have any excuse to protect myself. Usually, when I buy things I don't want others to know are for me, I say I'm buying them for a friend. However, I'm scared they'll ask why my friend would want SN. I know it's used for food preservation, but what homemade foods would need SN to be preserved? I read here that when someone ordered SN, the box said something about it being a pottery material, but I couldn't find anything about SN actually being used for pottery (or any crafts in general). Moreover, if it's not illegal, how do I ask for it to be 99% pure without being suspicious?

I would appreciate any help. Thank you x

Hey I'm in the same situation you are hahaha, I'm in Jordan too and looking for SN as well but not sure how to ask, let's find a way to plan it out lol

 

[enduringwinter]

SN is legal worldwide, it just requires a license to buy in most countries and fairly hard to find at high purity since cure salt is usually a mix of different types of salts.

 

[pleaseiwanttogo]

OP, from what I understood you're a woman, so let's use it in your favor. You'll just ask as someone who doesn't understand anything about it, because, of course, you're a woman and has no interest in anything butcher related.
But see, your cousin is starting a small business of homemade sausages and he just realized he needed something to conserve it, since you were at his house today he asked you if you could buy SN for him. Maybe you actually forgot the name of the 'thing' and have to check your notes. Also, he saw online it needed to be <95% pure. Why? You don't know, it's for your cousin. Ask "Do you guys sell it here?". Be chill, look confuse if they ask more questions, all you know is that your cousin wants it for his sausage business. If something sounds off, just leave the place. They probably won't mistreat you or ask too much because it's obvious you don't know anything more. Be kind, polite and smile, they'll be happy to help you. Don't ask if they *can* sell it without a license, just assume they can.
It's not suspicious to look for something to buy, it's just another purchase and you're just another client. And a client who's not even buying for himself. It'll be quick and easy, you'll see.

 

[xxxbmw]

Hey I'm in the same situation you are hahaha, I'm in Jordan too and looking for SN as well but not sure how to ask, let's find a way to plan it out lol

I tried to pm you but you're a new member so once you can get messages message me.

 

[unfortunateluck99]

I tried to pm you but you're a new member so once you can get messages message me.

Yeah I just created my account yesterday and I'm still learning to navigate the site hahaha. How do I PM you?

 

[xxxbmw]

Yeah I just created my account yesterday and I'm still learning to navigate the site hahaha. How do I PM you?

If I'm correct I think you have to do some things like posting threads or liking comments so you can message people. Just ask someone cuz I forgot. Note that you can private message someone or I you can I think it's called a direct message. Please private message instead.

 

[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

Yeah I just created my account yesterday and I'm still learning to navigate the site hahaha. How do I PM you?

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[unfortunateluck99]

Welcome! This may be helpful:

A crash course for new members.

Hi folks. In light of the massive influx of new members over the past months, and acknowledging the issue that navigating and understanding Sanctioned Suicide might initially lead to a few moments of confusion, making a thread to clear some things up seemed like a good idea. Also, since almost...

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Thank you so much for that! I guess I need to post a bit more before I can message anyone haha

If I'm correct I think you have to do some things like posting threads or liking comments so you can message people. Just ask someone cuz I forgot. Note that you can private message someone or I you can I think it's called a direct message. Please private message instead.

I still need more contributions before I can do that, will pm you once I'm able to :)

 

[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

Thank you so much for that! I guess I need to post a bit more before I can message anyone haha

I still need more contributions before I can do that, will pm you once I'm able to :)

I suggest posting in some games threads, which are often silly and casual interactions. This will help boost your engagement, which will help you unlock the forum features.

Here are a few I like:

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[figcitylightscookie]

Hey I'm in the same situation you are hahaha, I'm in Jordan too and looking for SN as well but not sure how to ask, let's find a way to plan it out lol

Interesting. Message me when you unlock private chats please.

OP, from what I understood you're a woman, so let's use it in your favor. You'll just ask as someone who doesn't understand anything about it, because, of course, you're a woman and has no interest in anything butcher related.
But see, your cousin is starting a small business of homemade sausages and he just realized he needed something to conserve it, since you were at his house today he asked you if you could buy SN for him. Maybe you actually forgot the name of the 'thing' and have to check your notes. Also, he saw online it needed to be <95% pure. Why? You don't know, it's for your cousin. Ask "Do you guys sell it here?". Be chill, look confuse if they ask more questions, all you know is that your cousin wants it for his sausage business. If something sounds off, just leave the place. They probably won't mistreat you or ask too much because it's obvious you don't know anything more. Be kind, polite and smile, they'll be happy to help you. Don't ask if they *can* sell it without a license, just assume they can.
It's not suspicious to look for something to buy, it's just another purchase and you're just another client. And a client who's not even buying for himself. It'll be quick and easy, you'll see.

Thank you so much! I was thinking of doing the same thing but say my cousin wants to sell pickles, and for her to do that, the pickles need to be properly perserved. I think I can only really pull this off in-store (not messaging the business online), but I will make another post if I have an update. Thank you so much for the advice, I'm really happy you were able to help

 

[cowboypants]

I think your best option is to try in offline stores first. Second option is buying it online from some other country that will be expensive ofc.

Most sellers in developing countries or whatever might not be aware of SN being so potent. So that's your advantage. I think pickles are your best excuse. Sausage sounds too alien but might not matter.

Show them a container pic of SN from internet..so you don't need to explain u need x amount of percentage that sounds kinda sus. And easier for them to process what u want too. Anything above 95% purity works

 

[unfortunateluck99]

Interesting. Message me when you unlock private chats please.

Thank you so much! I was thinking of doing the same thing but say my cousin wants to sell pickles, and for her to do that, the pickles need to be properly perserved. I think I can only really pull this off in-store (not messaging the business online), but I will make another post if I have an update. Thank you so much for the advice, I'm really happy you were able to help

Still didnt get access to PMs haha, you got another way we can talk?

 

[unfortunateluck99]

Interesting. Message me when you unlock private chats please.

Thank you so much! I was thinking of doing the same thing but say my cousin wants to sell pickles, and for her to do that, the pickles need to be properly perserved. I think I can only really pull this off in-store (not messaging the business online), but I will make another post if I have an update. Thank you so much for the advice, I'm really happy you were able to help

I've PMed you now :)