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Lol, think that this picture will be a info source for the next generations.

I couldn't see any issue with the method btw. Just be careful of that the hole of the bag won't tear further because of the pressure.
 
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I wouldn't put a hole in the bag. The air will naturally go out through the bottom of the bag where the hose is at. Did you read to add a hole?
 
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I wouldn't put a hole in the bag. The air will naturally go out through the bottom of the bag where the hose is at. Did you read to add a hole?
It's simple, i want the nitrogen to pass through the bag from bottom to top on the purpose of evacuate the CO2 that i exhale. the hole is a way to orientate the nitrogen flow.
 
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Sorry but I've never read into breathing a lot of things for ctb. Wasn't this made with Hellium?
 
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I wouldn't put a hole in the bag. The air will naturally go out through the bottom of the bag where the hose is at. Did you read to add a hole?
Yeah I agree with you on this. I have never read anything about putting a hole in the bag and in this case, I think a hole might result in too much Nitrogen leaving the bag, thus reducing the reliability of the method.
 
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amitripyline and flubromazolam
 
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I like the drawing
 
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Lmao this picture is legendary. I guess you would just have to make sure as hell you seal it, and perhaps cuff yourself and get your hands behind your back while inhaling so the survival instinct doesn't pull the bag off.
 
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put a watermark to the picture btw. That can be something that can perdure for years after your death.
 
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after some tests i can say that use a bag is really difficult (hole or not), so my new method would be to use a mask. tomorow i'll take a picture so no one will ever suffer from my drawings again.
 
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after some tests i can say that use a bag is really difficult (hole or not), so my new method would be to use a mask. tomorow i'll take a picture so no one will ever suffer from my drawings again.
no no. No pictures. We demand drawings.
 
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I read a lot about this method, I wouldn't put a hole. I think the carbon dioxide leaves because there isn't an airtight seal around the neck, and there's nitrogen flowing in, so I think it just goes out of the bottom. Also read something that they didn't recommend certain types of masks, but I'm not sure.
 
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May I ask why this method should be used over the inert gas (commonly helium) method?
 
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@freetoleave Can you be more detailed about what tests you did, why it's difficult with a bag? Some kinds of masks can easily become dislodged when unconscious or don't have enough of a seal, I think.

@Umbra This is the inert gas method, nitrogen is also an inert gas. Helium is often diluted with oxygen now because the government found out about people using it to ctb.
 
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I see a problem with this. CO2 is heavier than air, so with the hole at the top it's going to be the nitrogen that escapes and CO2 will build up
 
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I see a problem with this. CO2 is heavier than air, so with the hole at the top it's going to be the nitrogen that escapes and CO2 will build up
no if you're upside down!
 
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May I ask why this method should be used over the inert gas (commonly helium) method?
Helium supplies are rapidly diminishing and production capacity is also expected to drop over the coming years. Helium is an extremely important gas for scientific use (extreme cooling, eg. MRI scanners, Large Hadron Collider).

Nitrogen is referred to and used as an inert gas (high abundance & low cost). Whilst it's not truly inert like most noble gases, it is effectively inert for this purpose. It's also much cheaper.
 
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after some tests i can say that use a bag is really difficult (hole or not), so my new method would be to use a mask. tomorow i'll take a picture so no one will ever suffer from my drawings again.
You actually made me smile 5 minutes after waking up for work. That is borderline genius. Nitrogen is a good choice - I've read retailers are diluting their helium specifically because word has gotten out people are using it to ctb.
 
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effects of helium on vocal chords can makes you have some fun that's a point.

about my tests and conclusions

i tried the method as described in the first drawing

important to tape the nitrogen tube to the bag
hard to find a bag that have the good form (cf nicki minaj - good form)
hard to set up the sealing tape after putting the head inside without let the air come in
cannot be sure CO2 leaves the bag fast enough to die without waking up because CO2 is invisible

so i would prefer the mask method mainly because a mask basically is a smaller bag which means its faster to fill, it's also more confortable and finaly it's easier to decide where you want the nitrogen flow to come in and escape.
 

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