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for my tinnitus (it was unbearable) quetiapine helped me a lot... but after 1 year at final 450mg/day (i started with a low dose)
it is 80% quieter and much better to endure.
sorry to post again in this thread so soon, but yaalya has a point. i'm not trying to push a narrative of "suicide isn't the answer", especially not on this forum, but if you feel that you've had a very good life, i'm not sure this is quite what you're looking for. far be it from me to tell you what to do with yourself if you find a method that would actually work for you, but lostallhope puts it very well with the statement that "suicide is a permanent solution for what may very well be a temporary problem". i don't know very much about your condition or what help you may or may not have received for it thus far, but i may be able to help in other ways

i've been in the mental health system since before i hit double digits so i've been through multiple different types of therapy, and in dialectical behavioral therapy they teach you that there are three aspects to your brain; the emotional mind, the rational mind, and the wise mind. the wise mind is the ideal and is the marriage of both of the other two. i think first with my emotional mind a lot, and it's driven me to attempt suicide or seriously injure myself over things that, while not necessarily being trivial, still did have other solutions with less consequences. i'm not an expert by any means and am still not very good with acting with my wise mind but there are a number of things you can do to attempt to balance your emotions and make the choice that is really right for you

i would suggest two things: reach out to supportive people (if you have any) about your despair, and when you feel you want to commit suicide, try making a list of pros and cons. this is something clinicians will tell you to do often when your emotions become severely unbalanced. many people attempt suicide based sheerly on impulse because their emotional mind has a very strong hold on them in that time. i don't want to assume anything about you and i haven't checked your join date or forum history yet, but your original post makes it seem like you're in a similar state. try to weigh the positives and negatives of death and make plans to see if you can take steps to improve your tinnitus before you make that jump

a successful suicide with something like n will potentially be expensive and take time. it is also dangerous in ways unrelated to your physical state, as ordering n could get you into legal trouble. such a method requires research and a lot of planning. suicide is a very important choice, and is one of the most important choices you can make in your life. it may also very well be the last choice you ever make. even with my extensive and problematic history with mental and physical illness, i still have not decided when, how, or even if i will catch the bus as soon as i want to because my emotions are constantly changing. my life is constantly changing. i don't know you, and i don't know how old you are, but i want you to think this through. the people on this website will care about you and respect you regardless of your choice, but suicide has many implications to consider and your quality of life may change for the better without it. whatever you choose to do, please take care, and even if you are alone in the real world, you are far from alone here. please be well
 
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I'm sorry you're in so much pain Susan. Usually benzos have to be mixed with alcohol and are pretty difficult to OD on in the first place. I'd hate for you to end up feeling worse. I'd think 14 pills would make you sleep a long time, not ctb.
My mother ended up with a severe loss of essential minerals which sent her into such severe panic that she started screaming. The hallucinations the med. produced were horrific, and she was never free from them after that. She was in her 70's, but I understood that age was not a precipitating factor in the symptoms that occurred due to the overdose. Please think carefully.
 
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My mother ended up with a severe loss of essential minerals which sent her into such severe panic that she started screaming. The hallucinations the med. produced were horrific, and she was never free from them after that. She was in her 70's, but I understood that age was not a precipitating factor in the symptoms that occurred due to the overdose. Please think carefully.
Wow, that's terrible. I meant no offense. I've tried to ctb on meds similar and I would agree age is definitely a factor. I was in my 20's. Good thing to point out.
 
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sorry to post again in this thread so soon, but yaalya has a point. i'm not trying to push a narrative of "suicide isn't the answer", especially not on this forum, but if you feel that you've had a very good life, i'm not sure this is quite what you're looking for. far be it from me to tell you what to do with yourself if you find a method that would actually work for you, but lostallhope puts it very well with the statement that "suicide is a permanent solution for what may very well be a temporary problem". i don't know very much about your condition or what help you may or may not have received for it thus far, but i may be able to help in other ways

i've been in the mental health system since before i hit double digits so i've been through multiple different types of therapy, and in dialectical behavioral therapy they teach you that there are three aspects to your brain; the emotional mind, the rational mind, and the wise mind. the wise mind is the ideal and is the marriage of both of the other two. i think first with my emotional mind a lot, and it's driven me to attempt suicide or seriously injure myself over things that, while not necessarily being trivial, still did have other solutions with less consequences. i'm not an expert by any means and am still not very good with acting with my wise mind but there are a number of things you can do to attempt to balance your emotions and make the choice that is really right for you

i would suggest two things: reach out to supportive people (if you have any) about your despair, and when you feel you want to commit suicide, try making a list of pros and cons. this is something clinicians will tell you to do often when your emotions become severely unbalanced. many people attempt suicide based sheerly on impulse because their emotional mind has a very strong hold on them in that time. i don't want to assume anything about you and i haven't checked your join date or forum history yet, but your original post makes it seem like you're in a similar state. try to weigh the positives and negatives of death and make plans to see if you can take steps to improve your tinnitus before you make that jump

a successful suicide with something like n will potentially be expensive and take time. it is also dangerous in ways unrelated to your physical state, as ordering n could get you into legal trouble. such a method requires research and a lot of planning. suicide is a very important choice, and is one of the most important choices you can make in your life. it may also very well be the last choice you ever make. even with my extensive and problematic history with mental and physical illness, i still have not decided when, how, or even if i will catch the bus as soon as i want to because my emotions are constantly changing. my life is constantly changing. i don't know you, and i don't know how old you are, but i want you to think this through. the people on this website will care about you and respect you regardless of your choice, but suicide has many implications to consider and your quality of life may change for the better without it. whatever you choose to do, please take care, and even if you are alone in the real world, you are far from alone here. please be well
Everyone here joined because they have passed the point of all options and have tried it all and have thought this through very carefully. Subscribing to this forum is not a whim but years of trying and exhausting all paths. I was on another forum prior to this and received advice such as yours and i was open to it. Once you come here though you are not looking for anything but information and support to exit. Lines like "suicide is a permanent solution for what may very well be a temporary problem" do not fly here. You obviously mean well, but there are other sites for reasoning with people who want out. Here, we have pretty much already decided.
 
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Everyone here joined because they have passed the point of all options and have tried it all and have thought this through very carefully. Subscribing to this forum is not a whim but years of trying and exhausting all paths. I was on another forum prior to this and received advice such as yours and i was open to it. Once you come here though you are not looking for anything but information and support to exit. Lines like "suicide is a permanent solution for what may very well be a temporary problem" do not fly here. You obviously mean well, but there are other sites for reasoning with people who want out. Here, we have pretty much already decided.
you're very right, forgive my insensitivity. i should have been more careful with my words. thanks for understanding i meant nothing malicious, i'll watch the way i speak from now on
 
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you're very right, forgive my insensitivity. i should have been more careful with my words. thanks for understanding i meant nothing malicious, i'll watch the way i speak from now on
Sorry, I didn't mean anything rude by that. I know exactly where you are coming from and how difficult it is to be quiet. i feel more sadness in seeing someone else go then i do for myself going, i think most of us do. However, i just remind myself how i feel and how i Don't want to hear anymore platitudes that i have already heard, so i dont hand them out. The OP is really struggling and in pain, the only help we can really give is to provide knowledge and support...
 
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Sorry, I didn't mean anything rude by that. I know exactly where you are coming from and how difficult it is to be quiet. i feel more sadness in seeing someone else go then i do for myself going, i think most of us do. However, i just remind myself how i feel and how i Don't want to hear anymore platitudes that i have already heard, so i dont hand them out. The OP is really struggling and in pain, the only help we can really give is to provide knowledge and support...
can definitely agree with you there. you weren't being rude, so no worries and no offense taken. i finally checked her post history and saw how much she has put into medication and therapy... i feel terribly sorry for her. i know how it feels to go through things like that with my own physical health problems, just not tinnitus, so that was a lapse in understanding on my part. i reacted too quickly to the post about quetiapine as well because it was one of the only meds out of countless regimens that ever showed me relief (for different conditions than hers, though). i hope her suffering can end soon and peacefully, as i hope it can for anyone else who needs it. we all have our reasons for being here. truly hope everyone who reads this can rest easy someday
 
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sorry to post again in this thread so soon, but yaalya has a point. i'm not trying to push a narrative of "suicide isn't the answer", especially not on this forum, but if you feel that you've had a very good life, i'm not sure this is quite what you're looking for. far be it from me to tell you what to do with yourself if you find a method that would actually work for you, but lostallhope puts it very well with the statement that "suicide is a permanent solution for what may very well be a temporary problem". i don't know very much about your condition or what help you may or may not have received for it thus far, but i may be able to help in other ways

i've been in the mental health system since before i hit double digits so i've been through multiple different types of therapy, and in dialectical behavioral therapy they teach you that there are three aspects to your brain; the emotional mind, the rational mind, and the wise mind. the wise mind is the ideal and is the marriage of both of the other two. i think first with my emotional mind a lot, and it's driven me to attempt suicide or seriously injure myself over things that, while not necessarily being trivial, still did have other solutions with less consequences. i'm not an expert by any means and am still not very good with acting with my wise mind but there are a number of things you can do to attempt to balance your emotions and make the choice that is really right for you

i would suggest two things: reach out to supportive people (if you have any) about your despair, and when you feel you want to commit suicide, try making a list of pros and cons. this is something clinicians will tell you to do often when your emotions become severely unbalanced. many people attempt suicide based sheerly on impulse because their emotional mind has a very strong hold on them in that time. i don't want to assume anything about you and i haven't checked your join date or forum history yet, but your original post makes it seem like you're in a similar state. try to weigh the positives and negatives of death and make plans to see if you can take steps to improve your tinnitus before you make that jump

a successful suicide with something like n will potentially be expensive and take time. it is also dangerous in ways unrelated to your physical state, as ordering n could get you into legal trouble. such a method requires research and a lot of planning. suicide is a very important choice, and is one of the most important choices you can make in your life. it may also very well be the last choice you ever make. even with my extensive and problematic history with mental and physical illness, i still have not decided when, how, or even if i will catch the bus as soon as i want to because my emotions are constantly changing. my life is constantly changing. i don't know you, and i don't know how old you are, but i want you to think this through. the people on this website will care about you and respect you regardless of your choice, but suicide has many implications to consider and your quality of life may change for the better without it. whatever you choose to do, please take care, and even if you are alone in the real world, you are far from alone here. please be well
Thank you for all this its just too much now to tolerate its dementing physically and mentally its made me so very ill I look and feel shocking but from a sharp sensible mind this is too much I cant live rest of my life like this. Im 63 and been suffering so badly with this 21 months
 
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Thank you for all this its just too much now to tolerate its dementing physically and mentally its made me so very ill I look and feel shocking but from a sharp sensible mind this is too much I cant live rest of my life like this. Im 63 and been suffering so badly with this 21 months
i'm terribly sad to hear that your suffering is this deep. if i was a medical professional i feel like i could offer more but i'm not one. i saw that no one will accept you for euthanasia because they say you aren't terminal, did they have any other suggestions?

either way, zopiclone won't do much good for you. it's unfortunate but even mixing it with other substances likely won't do anything but put you to sleep and/or make you very sick. i've been around beyond-lethal zopiclone od attempts mixed with tons of booze and other things and the person survived multiple times, and like another poster said, their mother attempted and it only made things worse. if you've made the choice to exit, research other methods. whatever happens, i hope things improve for you, even if it means you pass. i'm so sorry for the loss of your quality of life and all that comes with that. you will be missed
 
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i'm terribly sad to hear that your suffering is this deep. if i was a medical professional i feel like i could offer more but i'm not one. i saw that no one will accept you for euthanasia because they say you aren't terminal, did they have any other suggestions?

either way, zopiclone won't do much good for you. it's unfortunate but even mixing it with other substances likely won't do anything but put you to sleep and/or make you very sick. i've been around beyond-lethal zopiclone od attempts mixed with tons of booze and other things and the person survived multiple times, and like another poster said, their mother attempted and it only made things worse. if you've made the choice to exit, research other methods. whatever happens, i hope things improve for you, even if it means you pass. i'm so sorry for the loss of your quality of life and all that comes with that. you will be missed
I can only think to stop eating and drinking but how long will it take I want to jump but so frightend I don't die I don't deserve this I had such hopes dreams plans im only 63 these last 22 months has been horrific every minute of every day on and on deafening like workmans pneumatic drill and really server hyperacusis and now crippling anxiety every time I think about it and cant get it down or stopped my stomach heaves im frightend to live and frightend to die so trapped I could rip my head off tried every medical route there is and every alternative therapy not slept naturally or well in 22 months and I needed 8 to 10 hours sleep a night was so busy lovely partner lovely friends this is cruel such a noise 24/7 in both ears what the hell is this condition thanks for replying those of you that cant go on I understand it but everything can be sorted for you but this just cant for me other than miracle or its stops I somehow knew I was in big trouble the day it started
 
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I cant go on any longer now can anyone tell me if 14 Zopiclone would kill me cant think how else to go and I cant take this Tinnitus any longer why me why this why now its horrific its so loud I cant hear anything else im done I had such a lovely life if only this hadn't come everything was fine perfect recovered from cancer but this too much for me im destroyed
You need to get on medications for your tinnitus if you haven't already. I deal with pretty bad tinnitus myself, it's gotten a lot worse recently, but it's still manageable with medications. .

 
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I have this in my left ear as well.


Happy first post
 
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Do you know what caused your tinnitus? - Have you considered it might be from electromagnetic sensitivity, are there any cell towers nearby where you live, have you tried turning wifi off from your router?
 
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Thank you to all who have replied. Im still here but very desperate and very ill now so very demented tortured and very very tired just cant take the level of the tinnitus but really bad hyperacusis is making this so loud I even pass out with kettle boiling my own voice eating I know it sounds ridiculous and I cant understand whats happened or why so extreme I have to get off this planet somehow
 
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Thank you to all who have replied. Im still here but very desperate and very ill now so very demented tortured and very very tired just cant take the level of the tinnitus but really bad hyperacusis is making this so loud I even pass out with kettle boiling my own voice eating I know it sounds ridiculous and I cant understand whats happened or why so extreme I have to get off this planet somehow
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I really am sorry Susan. I wish there was something I could do. I actually tried, without using your name or this website or anything like that, just generically emailed some of the media outlets in the UK that I knew someone going through this and the hospitals were just throwing this person out on the street and saying they couldn't help and won't let her die to see if they would run a story on just the premise/humanity of it. One responded saying that wasn't their medium, nobody else did.

I hate that we live in such a cold-hearted world.
 
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I really am sorry Susan. I wish there was something I could do. I actually tried, without using your name or this website or anything like that, just generically emailed some of the media outlets in the UK that I knew someone going through this and the hospitals were just throwing this person out on the street and saying they couldn't help and won't let her die to see if they would run a story on just the premise/humanity of it. One responded saying that wasn't their medium, nobody else did.

I hate that we live in such a cold-hearted world.
Oh thank you for trying for me that's so kind
for my tinnitus (it was unbearable) quetiapine helped me a lot... but after 1 year at final 450mg/day (i started with a low dose)
it is 80% quieter and much better to endure.
Oh I wish wish mine would even lessen but its just up and up worse and worse I cant physically take the sheer volume never heard anyone describe it like I do drilling hammering roaring I can feel it hammering into my feet its like pistons banging up and down I cant believe this has even happened to me I was so very fit healthy and happy this is such suffering I can see only one way out now ive tried to fix it manage it live with it so very ill with the anxiety the human body isn't designed to take 22 months of constant anxiety its dementing me and I look and feel so ill
 
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I've experienced this before in very minor cases and it only lasts about 1-5 seconds and it's annoying enough, but living with tinnitus permanently is not something I could wake up with everyday... sorry to hear what you are going through susan, I hope you can find something that eases this
 
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I've experienced this before in very minor cases and it only lasts about 1-5 seconds and it's annoying enough, but living with tinnitus permanently is not something I could wake up with everyday... sorry to hear what you are going through susan, I hope you can find something that eases this
Ive tried everything possible 4 consultants,3 Tinnitus Clinics, Acupuncture, head massage, reiki, hypnotherapy, homeopathy, reflexology, cranio sacral therapy even Dignitas who cant help me. The tinnitus plus sensitivity to all sounds is deafening the anxiety is crippling me weight loss, massive hair loss, body bouncing and shaking cant eat cant sleep going out of my mind why me this bad most people live ok manage it I cant even function 22 months like this I was so very fit and well came from nowhere im done all in just don't know how to go but I need to go I need peace calm quiet I hated noise but in your own ears like this is horrific never once let up stopped just rages on and on
 
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I have it too and i know a lot of people who have it now , mine is manageable as long as i have something on in the background i can ignore it , or mention it then i can hear it again , it is just a high pitched whine like when old tvs finished broadcasting but can not imaging the how terrible it must be for you .... makes you wonder whether the thousands of different signals around us .The latest study i could find shows steady increase in cases but it makes you wonder if the increase is down to all the signals bouncing around the air , mobiles , bluetooth, satellite , smart meters not to mention all the hive and mobile connectivity everyone is obsessed with now etc etc , i wonder what the case figures are like in remote African villages ?
 

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Ive tried everything possible 4 consultants,3 Tinnitus Clinics, Acupuncture, head massage, reiki, hypnotherapy, homeopathy, reflexology, cranio sacral therapy even Dignitas who cant help me. The tinnitus plus sensitivity to all sounds is deafening the anxiety is crippling me weight loss, massive hair loss, body bouncing and shaking cant eat cant sleep going out of my mind why me this bad most people live ok manage it I cant even function 22 months like this I was so very fit and well came from nowhere im done all in just don't know how to go but I need to go I need peace calm quiet I hated noise but in your own ears like this is horrific never once let up stopped just rages on and on

What did they do on the Tinnitus Clinics?

I have tinnitus myself and am curious. Havent seeked help for it yet.
 
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What did they do on the Tinnitus Clinics?

I have tinnitus myself and am curious. Havent seeked help for it yet.
Believe it or not they couldn't help me as too server and because the hyperacusis is so extreme (sensitivity to all normal sounds) I cant mask this its as if my ears are super amplified its horrific a person cant live with this much noise 24/7 sorry you have it too I could have taken anything but this im going out of my mind gone from happy busy life to not even able to function cant go on like this 22 months too loud too long can you stand it live with it just too much for me knocking me sick the anxiety of this is crippling wish id just have fatal heart attack
 
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I cant go on any longer now can anyone tell me if 14 Zopiclone would kill me cant think how else to go and I cant take this Tinnitus any longer why me why this why now its horrific its so loud I cant hear anything else im done I had such a lovely life if only this hadn't come everything was fine perfect recovered from cancer but this too much for me im destroyed
Ive asked this before but think this might be my only option stopping eating and drinking how long will it take and can I keep it up im just more and more ill by the day
 
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Susan, so sorry you suffer with this. I almost started my own thread on this. Are you taking any pain meds like aspirin or ibuprofen? They will make it so much worse. I have the same problem, and its always a decision I have to make - pain vs. unbearable tinnitus. Mine is like a constant teakettle, with a cricket/clicking/cicada sound that makes some kind of physical thing happen in my right ear. It gets worse when I have to take my pain meds. Opiates do it too. There aren't any meds that can help it directly, but maybe a script like klonipin or Xanax to at least settle your nerves may help. Again sorry to hear you go through this.
 
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Sorry, I didn't mean anything rude by that. . . .

Well, I like what you shared. It was relevant and insightful. As for the suggestion that you're merely offering platitudes, to some it may seem so and to others what you say may be very helpful. Don't censure yourself. I've seen a lot of people on another website thrive on "platitudes". We're all at different places in our journey, so what touches one in a meaningful way can be utterly banal to someone else.
 
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