Hello everyone (ctb method planned, just need help w/specs and maybe a friendly word)

[tugboat]

Title kind of explains it all. I just need to know if it will work. My options are limited as of this writing.
Attached garage ( 15×25×12) if I take sleeping pills start a push mower full of gas, run it for about 30 mins, top the tank off and then lay down to sleep (yes I will use towels to plug the doors/window)... will this work? I can expect about 6 hours uninterrupted. My body weight is about 90 lbs, if that matters into the equation.

I have read about such methods working on "accident" but.. maybe I can repurpose it into a planned sucess?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Welcome to the forum! Sth that "works by accident" certainly does not work when you intend to do it.

Here's a guide:

Charcoal method advice

Hi, I somehow came across this site after some furious google searching over the weekend. After trying and failing other methods over the past month I came across back to the idea of carbon monoxide and decided to dig further into charcoal burning, of which there are plenty discussions on this...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Garage is too large and too leaky. Not gonna work imo.

 

[tugboat]

Ahh shit. So car method it is. I have a 2 door that should work. I can use 2 iron flower planters to hold the coals in the back seat floors. So if I get it to about 15 lbs of glowing coals and 8 hours of alone time.. that should do the trick. I see disclaimers on using treated briquettes. I will have to see if they have natural charcoal for sale somewhere around. And a co meter apparently... they say 1500 and at 90 lbs that should be enough.
Correction. I feel that iron can be too brittle, I will get some stone planters. Set them in the back seat floors so I can easily dump the coals. Should I cover the windows with plastic bags and tape up the air vents? Would that quicken things, or would it bring too much attention? These doubts should not assail me like they do.

 

[tugboat]

So, in addition to the method, I need to consider the heat output. I have no clear way to produce heatless CO. I will lean towards taking a heavy sedative at an appropriate time so it can sync with the CO levels. (Hmm, planning it in a physical list is proving more beneficial than I anticipated). Then enter car in close time for sedatives to take effect and I can be out while my body temp becomes too uncomfortable.
This sounds simple and viable.
Execution should take 1-1.5 years. I will purchase a few more life insurance policies. Not an amount to draw suspicion, but best do extra padding. Yes. 45 is far beyond what I should have been alotted.

 

[Artemisia]

I'm not sure if taking sedatives is a good idea, I guess it depends on the sedative, although CO poisoning shouldn't hurt, it's said to actually cause some euphoria. Any thing that slows down breathing and/or cardiac rate will also slow down the time it takes for the CO to take effect.
Do you have access to sulphuric acid (battery acid, doesn't have to be pure) and formic acid (it should be easy to get, it's used to treat bees against a parasite)? If done right they produce CO without all the hassle with charcoal or lawn mowers.

 

[tugboat]

Your information is valuable, and I appreciate this new perspective. I do not trust my abilities with chemicals enough to mix the two and get a proper reaction without many tests.. and that will lead to detection.
The sedatives are to shut my brain off so the heat doesn't other me. I cannot do benzos due to the nausea they cause.

I took a day to reflect and realized that I was again worrying and anticipating events that will not matter. Since life insurance policies are fickle, I will disreguard a 1.5 year plan. I have enough physical assets so no need to squirell money away.

I am not sure why the heat aspect is bothering me so much. Maybe I worry about cooking before death?

 

[Forveleth]

Your information is valuable, and I appreciate this new perspective. I do not trust my abilities with chemicals enough to mix the two and get a proper reaction without many tests.. and that will lead to detection.
The sedatives are to shut my brain off so the heat doesn't other me. I cannot do benzos due to the nausea they cause.

I took a day to reflect and realized that I was again worrying and anticipating events that will not matter. Since life insurance policies are fickle, I will disreguard a 1.5 year plan. I have enough physical assets so no need to squirell money away.

I am not sure why the heat aspect is bothering me so much. Maybe I worry about cooking before death?

Some people who have survived attempts talk about the heat. I don't know if this would help but maybe take ice water with you when you get in? Something to cool you from the inside? I dunno.

Should I cover the windows with plastic bags and tape up the air vents? Would that quicken things, or would it bring too much attention?

Definitely tape up the air vents. Windows are up to you. Depends on how good the seals are.

You are worried about attention. Are you going to be doing this where you can be easily seen/found?

 

[Artemisia]

Your information is valuable, and I appreciate this new perspective. I do not trust my abilities with chemicals enough to mix the two and get a proper reaction without many tests.. and that will lead to detection.
The sedatives are to shut my brain off so the heat doesn't other me. I cannot do benzos due to the nausea they cause.

I took a day to reflect and realized that I was again worrying and anticipating events that will not matter. Since life insurance policies are fickle, I will disreguard a 1.5 year plan. I have enough physical assets so no need to squirell money away.

I am not sure why the heat aspect is bothering me so much. Maybe I worry about cooking before death?

I have no idea where you live, but any chance it gets considerably cold in winter? Before I decided on the chemical method, I too was considering using coal and knew it had to be done in the peak of winter to compensate for the heat.

Sorry forvelerh, but drinking cold water is not a good idea. Our bodies are weird like that. Well , actually it's not weird at all, it's just a feedback mechanism. If you drink cold water it'll lower your internal temperature which will lead to the body producing more heat to compensate and get back to the normal 36,5 °C.

 

[Forveleth]

Sorry forvelerh, but drinking cold water is not a good idea. Our bodies are weird like that. Well , actually it's not weird at all, it's just a feedback mechanism. If you drink cold water it'll lower your internal temperature which will lead to the body producing more heat to compensate and get back to the normal 36,5 °C.

Right, but if you're already overheating, then your body temperature is too high and drinking something cool will help bring it back down to where it needs to be.

 

[Artemisia]

Right, but if you're already overheating, then your body temperature is too high and drinking something cool will help bring it back down to where it needs to be.

Sure, that's right. But should be done when already overheating and might be a good/better idea to dip a cloth in the the cold water and apply it to where the blood is closer to the surface, like the inside of the wrists, forehead, neck, etc.

 

[tugboat]

It DOES get quite cold in winter time here.
I purchased two rectangular stone planter boxes and the CO monitor. I had a moment of trepidation though. The vehicle of choice is small, but it is a convertible. I worry about leakage. But I am a.. small.. person. I think that would help.

As a side note. I again with to thank posters discussing this method with me. Your input and arguments are most beneficial. You have my sincere gratitude.

Edit. I do worry about being found still breathing. I strive for no attempts, or they will have me put in a place of monitoring.

 

[tugboat]

I will definitely have to wait until winter when I will cover the car that will be used. I can only get about 80,000 to read with any stability for over an hour. It is a cloth top convertible so that might be the problem. The winter cover will solve many visibility issues as well as trapping in emissions.
I will test again when it is covered and see if it reads better. While I do find it distressing that it means more waiting, it is what it is.

 

[acey]

Still, so many people die on accident from generators, stoves, etc. I feel like there must be a way to make it work other than charcoal, which seems messy to me.

 

[tugboat]

Agreed. Entire families wiped out in their sleep over a faulty CO monitor. But yet here we are, trying to jerry-rig it.
@Artemisia has a good idea with producing a chemically induced heat free reaction. It's just hard to get it stable.
It seems that the heat to CO ratio is everyone's issue.
I read about the Japanese TV personality that had just 2 charcoal sticks and managed it. I'm not sure how. That level of efficency is kind of unheard of, no clue as to what brand she used.

Sometimes, I wish the great distraction worked on me. Sometimes, I wish I would stop rationalizing every aspect of everything. We hairless apes are such pathetic creatures, it's almost laughable.

 

[Edpal247]

Still, so many people die on accident from generators, stoves, etc. I feel like there must be a way to make it work other than charcoal, which seems messy to me.

Unfortunately, mowers and generators run out of air and stop. Car exhaust to a windows doesn't. BUt most modern cars have catalytic convertor so not enough CO anyway.

 

[acey]

Unfortunately, mowers and generators run out of air and stop. Car exhaust to a windows doesn't. BUt most modern cars have catalytic convertor so not enough CO anyway.

Yeah, that's what I heard. Is there a way to remove it? But also, with a big enough generator I feel like it should be possible

 

[tugboat]

Yeah, that's what I heard. Is there a way to remove it? But also, with a big enough generator I feel like it should be possible

I am an absolute nonce when it comes to automobiles, but I believe removing that would cause an explosion, maybe? I just remember a car of mine had a faulty one and they said it would blow up the engine. Could be the mechanics making a sale, dunno.

As a side excursion I am whittling my weight down so that I have a back up plan of heart failure. Down to 85. That is a 16.5 bmi. 14 should get me into the danger zone enough that even 80,000 units would be enough to do me in.

I had this idea to just sleep to death. Just constantly take sleeping pills and 1 slice of bread to absorb them quicker. Everytime I wake up, just take another and slowly waste away in my sleep. I know that is a nonsensical fantasy, but I can dream, right?

 

[tugboat]

I think I need a back up incase I cannot make it until winter. Slitting my wrists would do the trick, 100%. I have anemia. My disgusting selfishness continues. I don't want it to be painful. I have a thought that acquiring a lidocaine patch, cutting it in half, numbing my wrists, and taking a final warm bath. I like baths. I think it will be nice to slowly sink into that.
That is how I view death. Not an end to this life, just a warm embrace from a friend after a cold lonely journey.

 

[Lo$t95]

I think I need a back up incase I cannot make it until winter. Slitting my wrists would do the trick, 100%. I have anemia. My disgusting selfishness continues. I don't want it to be painful. I have a thought that acquiring a lidocaine patch, cutting it in half, numbing my wrists, and taking a final warm bath. I like baths. I think it will be nice to slowly sink into that.
That is how I view death. Not an end to this life, just a warm embrace from a friend after a cold lonely journey.

I never understood why people are scared of dying. Maybe how they die - but dying itself no. Basically just the end of your journey which is really inviting and appealing if you don't enjoy life to begin with.

 

[tugboat]

Existence was fear to weariness. I cannot lie and say I found no joy in it. I have experienced times of laughter, pride, excitement, even love. None of it is enough to hold me here though.
I am unsure what to do now with my time. I will keep working, must maintain the status quo. Do I make my cry into the void? It seems pointless. There is no cautionary tale I can warn others of, no pitfalls to avoid. I do not relish participating in a competition of sorrow (no one wins such contests anyway). So an autobiography of a nothing is a gross feeding of ego. I am a amiable person, I just do not seek companionship. Guess I will keep on as I have, quietly reading.

 

[tugboat]

It's worse. It's worse. It's worse. Breathing hurts. My heart hurts. I want to go. It is not cold enough to cover the car. I can't wait. It will be the wrists.. I am.. scared of the pain though. Would lidocaine patches be enough? Should I order tattoo numbing cream? I think a test on my thigh should do the trick.
Will update when that occurs.