Helium exit with a CPAP mask. Need help with the air pressure setting and gear verification

[itsmylastweek]

Awesome, thank you for the replies you guys. I appreciate the advice very much. I'll keep the snug fit in mind when I am about to do it. Also, I have an update in the bag I will be using. I went ahead and made an exit bag following instructions on that video that Betty did for exit international. I am attaching images of my results to this post. Do look it over and point out any flaws. Thanks!
I also need instructions on how to put the pipe through this bag. The video kinda ends right where she finishes making the bag. They dont show how they end up putting the tube into the bag. I read someone said you have to tape the tube to the bag but I am really not sure how to.

 

[frees]

I also need instructions on how to put the pipe through this bag.

Turn the bag inside-out (like a t-shirt) and tape the hose halfway up inside the bag. Do not tape at the seam.

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What kind of tube are you using? Large diameter tube lets gas escape through the gaps between it and your neck. The tube on your pictures looks too thick.

You really should read the inert gas chapter in "Five Lasts Acts"

Five Last Acts (2015).pdf - AnonFiles

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[itsmylastweek]

Turn the bag inside-out (like a t-shirt) and tape the hose halfway up inside the bag. Do not tape at the seam.

tape — Postimages

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What kind of tube are you using? Large diameter tube lets gas escape through the gaps between it and your neck. The tube on your pictures looks too thick.

You really should read the inert gas chapter in "Five Lasts Acts"

Five Last Acts (2015).pdf - AnonFiles

anonfile.com

Oh wow, these are perfect, exactly what I needed! You're a lifesaver... err.. haha. Also I got myself a nice faucet hose to solve the thickness problem. I am attaching pictures of my final cylinder and hose setup with this post. Minus the bag with the taped hose I think I have everything ready. I also will roll the tape around the connection between the pipe and the regulator just to be safe. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks everyone.

 

[dominodux]

Hello there, I've reached the end of my line and am ready to put a period on a life filled with illness and abject failure. I've decided that Helium suicide with a CPAP mask was the most failsafe way for me and have gone ahead to procure a tank of 99.998% pure helium, a CPAP mask, the tubing that comes with it and after some intense search for the right kind of fittings needed for the outlet over the past three days, I've come across the perfect setup to connect to my CPAP Mask. Everything is all set up and I tested it by turning on the knob on the tank and it hit me with an intense burst of helium that I felt like would be unsustainable for me to breath and make the mask come off. The pressure on it was too great for me and I am not sure what I should do now. I am about to make my first attempt tomorrow morning. I need tips as to what to do with my current setup to make it a successful one. I really do not want to end up failing. I've invested all of my resources into buying this tank and failure means that I don't have any alternatives. Any comments and help will be highly appreciated. Wish me luck <3

I am gonna attach the setup images to this post, please view them and let me know what I can do.

Please check at my messages history, if you can.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/failed-helium-attempt.25885/

I did exactly the same as you and my "fail-proof" method, miserably failed, because one of this:

1) Oxygen contamination of the helium tank
2) Oxygen infiltration inside the mask
3) Excessive helium pressure, caused infiltration around tubes

For my next trial i totally revised the system:

1) I will go with nitrogen, that i got already
2) I will use a two-stage pression regulator, that i got already
3) I will use a diving mask, that i supplied already with proper adaptors for nitrogen tubes

The most important thing is to get a mask that allow exale breathing and inhale only from the gas that fits the mask chamber, any excess of gas should flux out the exhaling pipe, with all the oxygen that the nitrogen will blow away then the regulator will be activated.

Basically, inhale channel should not allow exhale and must pump gas, and exhale channel must not allow inhale, and breathing.

Also firemen masks have this features, but they have two inhale channals, so, one must be sealed or it may pump oxygen with the gas.

I am against the "bag method" because without a proper gas regulator or during inconsciouness, the bag may just "pop" like a balloon, gas pressure has variations and pressure changes quickly with temperature variation due to gas exhalation. SO risk failure is quite high.

Make sure of what you do, because my failed attempt, damaged my vision and my way of walking, also since then my concentration and ability to talk by voice, is quite compromised.

 

[frees]

I am against the "bag method" because without a proper gas regulator or during inconsciouness, the bag may just "pop" like a balloon

This is not true. High pressure, industrial cylinders need a regulator. Balloon type tanks can be used without.
An exit bag will never pop. The elastic allows any pressure or flow rate to escape regardless how tight.

The exit bag method has been developed over twenty years with input from countless experts. Hundreds of successful uses have been observed and reported. There are reasons why the bag method is recommended instead of masks or helmets, although many people tend to gravitate to the idea of a mask more at first.

It is very important to read the books thouroughly and follow the instructions carefully. Do only deviate when you really, really know what you are doing. Almost all failed attempts are due to deviations or following incomplete descriptions on the net.

 

[GerMann]

Flowrate without high pressure seems to be the holy grale

 

[dominodux]

This is not true. High pressure, industrial cylinders need a regulator. Balloon type tanks can be used without.
An exit bag will never pop. The elastic allows any pressure or flow rate to escape regardless how tight.

The exit bag method has been developed over twenty years with input from countless experts. Hundreds of successful uses have been observed and reported. There are reasons why the bag method is recommended instead of masks or helmets, although many people tend to gravitate to the idea of a mask more at first.

It is very important to read the books thouroughly and follow the instructions carefully. Do only deviate when you really, really know what you are doing. Almost all failed attempts are due to deviations or following incomplete descriptions on the net.

Surely it has a high success rate, but that does not mean that it isnt having a failure rate at all. Just like jumping out of a building without reaching terminal velocity, falling on a car or on a tree, does mean that at least 20% of attempts fails.

And i guess a similar percentage is to the exit bag, the fact that success are reported does not mean that all failure are resported as well. It may work in 90% more or less, but this wont change physics law:

Helium is a highly volatile gas, if the bag is quite big (it has to be to be confortable) it may just flow away from the head, because one or all this factors may occurr:

1) Elastic not tight
2) Big bag
3) Unconsciouness movements
4) Tank pressure and excessive flow rate
5) Helium volatility (infact it is used to let the balloon to fly away)

And also it may pop the bag, because one of this factors

1) Elastic too tight
2) Unconsciouness body movement
3) Tank pressure and excessive flow rate
4) Short resistance of the bag
5) Failure in the bag design on corners

So, in my opinion the method works in high success rate, with an low failure rate, but yet the failure exists.

Other methods can be 99% successiful.

 

[itsmylastweek]

Its my exit day, I am about to make the attempt in one hour guys, give me any last tips. Thank you <3

 

[frees]

Its my exit day, I am about to make the attempt in one hour guys, give me any last tips. Thank you <3

Aren't you rushing it a bit? Use crunch technique, low flow rate, bag should take 30 to 60 seconds to inflate.

Good luck, all the best!

 

[Dazedandconfused32]

Its my exit day, I am about to make the attempt in one hour guys, give me any last tips. Thank you <3

Please think things through carefully and don't act too quickly. Whatever it is you decide to do I do wish you the best and hope you find the peace you're looking for.

 

[GerMann]

Good luck!

 

[Ritter]

Its my exit day, I am about to make the attempt in one hour guys, give me any last tips. Thank you <3

I haven't seen any further postings from him...I'm curious if it worked out. I guess silence is success?

 

[crea_the_hopeless]

I haven't seen any further postings from him...I'm curious if it worked out. I guess silence is success?

I'm curious as well