Help HEARTBROKEN: My plan for having a gas CTB method ready to go long term is ruined. Gas tanks are simply too dangerous.

[HadItAll]

How can people keep this shit in their homes? I'd be constantly paranoid that the cylinder would blast through a wall/door and kill my neighbors or ruin the house. I was so looking forward to having this ready, but as the paranoid person I've become in the past few years I looked up all the security concerns and sure enough - here's a big one.


Why the fuck are those regulators at the end so fucking weak? Literally the tank only has to fall over for it to pop off. BULLSHIT.

Now I'll have to look into SN it seems.

 

[GasMonkey]

I have had a cylinder in my house for 4 years with no problems. I have seen a bunch of cylinders at my work and never seen one having a leak.

You obviously have to handle it with care.

Accidents happen on industries because they manage tens of thousands of cylinders and humans errors happen.

 

[HadItAll]

I have had a cylinder in my house for 4 years with no problems. I have seen a bunch of cylinders at my work and never seen one having a leak.

You obviously have to handle it with care.

Accidents happen on industries because they manage tens of thousands of cylinders and humans errors happen.

Where do you keep that shit? In a closet? I don't exactly have a house to myself, I live in a one bedroom apartment. So my options are limited.

Is there anything you can put on top of that regulator as a safety measure to avoid it snapping off?

 

[outrider567]

Oh come on, just make sure it doesn't fall, how hard is that? A huge 3000 liter Nitrogen tank been in my house for 11 months now, 70 lbs yet its still easy to make sure it doesn't fall

 

[HadItAll]

Oh come on, just make sure it doesn't fall, how hard is that? A huge 3000 liter Nitrogen tank been in my house for 11 months now, 70 lbs yet its still easy to make sure it doesn't fall

Well, I have to effectively hide it and what if a guest accidentally tips it over in my closet or something.

 

[outrider567]

Where do you keep that shit? In a closet? I don't exactly have a house to myself, I live in a one bedroom apartment. So my options are limited.

Is there anything you can put on top of that regulator as a safety measure to avoid it snapping off?

Nothing is going to snap off, my giant tank is sitting contently in the laundry room, still in its box but connected to the flowmeter/regulator and EEBD hood

 

[GasMonkey]

Where do you keep that shit?

Mine is standing between a sofa and a wall, with a rolled up yoga mat in its front (which is compressed between the sofa and wall), so it's impossible for the cylinder to fall.

I have to effectively hide it

Cylinders already come concealed inside a box.

 

[missingpeace]

Rent a storage room for a short while.

 

[SCW]

The cylinders you're seeing issues with in industrial videos are being used and reused without much if any maintenance. That combined with the number of cylinders being stored makes the accidents look more frequent than they actually are.

 

[HadItAll]

Rent a storage room for a short while.

I don't want to ctb now. I want to be ready whenever whether it's now or 2 years from now.

 

[lionetta12]

How can people keep this shit in their homes? I'd be constantly paranoid that the cylinder would blast through a wall/door and kill my neighbors or ruin the house. I was so looking forward to having this ready, but as the paranoid person I've become in the past few years I looked up all the security concerns and sure enough - here's a big one.


Why the fuck are those regulators at the end so fucking weak? Literally the tank only has to fall over for it to pop off. BULLSHIT.

Now I'll have to look into SN it seems.

Imagine having an earthquake with that inside your closet.

 

[HadItAll]

Imagine having an earthquake with that inside your closet.

Tbh if there's an earthquake you might have a bigger problem

 

[lionetta12]

Tbh if there's an earthquake you might have a bigger problem

Depends on the strenght of it but probably

 

[wr3ck3d]

Buy a storage room and a holder like for the fire extinguisher. Depending on where you live you may never experience strong earthquakes, but if something you worry about try to look on the internet for seismic activity in your area. Like anything, your extinguisher will be the safest... in the doorway

 

[kitkat7777]

N gas is volatile under pressure. I used to do N gas testing. I wouldn't be too worried about it in a cylinder.

 

[HadItAll]

N gas is volatile under pressure. I used to do N gas testing. I wouldn't be too worried about it in a cylinder.

Could you elaborate what you mean by volatile in this context?

 

[ChildrensITV]

Can you lie it on its side so it doesn't fall over?

 

[HadItAll]

BUMP!!!!! Anyone else knowledgeable could join in on this conversation? I need to get over my fear of storing it indoors ASAP. Can never know for how long a method will be available these days.

 

[outrider567]

BUMP!!!!! Anyone else knowledgeable could join in on this conversation? I need to get over my fear of storing it indoors ASAP. Can never know for how long a method will be available these days.

Your fears are groundless--I've had my huge Nitrogen tank in my store room for a over a year now

 

[HadItAll]

Your fears are groundless--I've had my huge Nitrogen tank in my store room for a over a year now

Where is this store room though? In your house or apartment? I'd have to store mine in my one room apartment.

 

[outrider567]

Where is this store room though? In your house or apartment? I'd have to store mine in my one room apartment.

In my condo, its where the washer/dryer is also

 

[HadItAll]

In my condo, its where the washer/dryer is also

Is the place where you store it susceptible to temperature changes? My apartment can get pretty hot during summer.

 

[outrider567]

Is the place where you store it susceptible to temperature changes? My apartment can get pretty hot during summer.

Yes, it gets hotter in the summer in the storeroom--But never above 85 degrees--Nitrogen tanks aren't at any risk until the temp hits 125 degrees

 

[HadItAll]

Yes, it gets hotter in the summer in the storeroom--But never above 85 degrees--Nitrogen tanks aren't at any risk until the temp hits 125 degrees

I guess my apartment could hit 35-38 degrees Celsius absolute maximum. Do you think it's safe to store it in such conditions? And what happens above 125 fahrentheit? (I'm assuming you're talking about Fahrenheit)

 

[outrider567]

I guess my apartment could hit 35-38 degrees Celsius absolute maximum. Do you think it's safe to store it in such conditions? And what happens above 125 fahrentheit? (I'm assuming you're talking about Fahrenheit)

Even 38 degrees Celsius is only 100 degrees--and even past 125 degrees, the tank never explodes, it just sort of spits out the Nitrogen, kind of like an out of control fire extinguisher--Btw, why don't get an air-conditioner if you're worried about heat

 

[HadItAll]

and even past 125 degrees, the tank never explodes, it just sort of spits out the Nitrogen, kind of like an out of control fire extinguisher--Btw, why don't get an air-conditioner if you're worried about heat

Doesn't it become airborne above 125 degrees?

I have air conditioner, but I am not always at home, especially during the peak heat

 

[outrider567]

Doesn't it become airborne above 125 degrees?

I have air conditioner, but I am not always at home, especially during the peak heat

Can't you set it at automatic 80 degrees while you're gone?

 

[HadItAll]

Can't you set it at automatic 80 degrees while you're gone?

Maybe that could work. Still got to be ready for the worst case scenario of 100 degrees in case I forget to turn on the air conditioner or something.

What about if I open a window in winter and it gets really cold in my apartment?

 

[outrider567]

Maybe that could work. Still got to be ready for the worst case scenario of 100 degrees in case I forget to turn on the air conditioner or something.

What about if I open a window in winter and it gets really cold in my apartment?

Doesn't matter, there is no minimum temp that affects nitrogen gas tank

 

[leeloosnow]

there's risks with gas tanks, yeah, but a lot of things are hazardous when you think about it. my ex as a glassblower and we'd fly down the highway with a 70's pinto stocked with gas tanks for glassblowing, usually while being really fkn high. go figure, im still here.