Venting Has anyone broke you?

[Seven]

Has someone messed with your mind so bad that they ended up breaking you apart. Ever since I met them I havent been the same, they tore my brain apart. They kept loving and hating me to the point my brain just broke. I dont know who I am, i dont feel real, I feel like an entity that's here just to create. I attempted last night, it did workout well I wouldn't call it an attempt more of a practice. They ruined me I was so.much happier before I met them. I was in a dark place, but they sent me to a place even darker, a place where I wont come put alive. My heart is turning cold, my empathy is going away, my emotions are nothing and I'm losing interest in life itself. Who am I? How did i get here? I dont know anymore, I just need to keep creating, my self is going to vanish soon. Love is dangerous and unempathetic, love can destroy your whole psyche. Especially at the hands of someone who wants your soul.

 

[lastNamePicked]

individuals categorized in the cluster b disorders (like for example psychopaths) manipulate by something called 'love bombing' in which the victim is idealized strongly followed by a phase of devaluation. it's like being on drugs: the drop is so fatal that the victim gets addicted rather quickly. After the abusive relationship, the victim feels empty, broken as if their identity was stolen from them. the abuser actually takes joy in watching the victim falling apart. cluster b people have a lack of empathy - they dont give a shit.
your description reminds me of this phenomena.

 

[HGL91]

Has someone messed with your mind so bad that they ended up breaking you apart. Ever since I met them I havent been the same, they tore my brain apart. They kept loving and hating me to the point my brain just broke. I dont know who I am, i dont feel real, I feel like an entity that's here just to create. I attempted last night, it did workout well I wouldn't call it an attempt more of a practice. They ruined me I was so.much happier before I met them. I was in a dark place, but they sent me to a place even darker, a place where I wont come put alive. My heart is turning cold, my empathy is going away, my emotions are nothing and I'm losing interest in life itself. Who am I? How did i get here? I dont know anymore, I just need to keep creating, my self is going to vanish soon. Love is dangerous and unempathetic, love can destroy your whole psyche. Especially at the hands of someone who wants your soul.

I've had 2 relationships like this and the only reason I'm alive here today is because my mom saved me. What you're going through is terrifying. Do you have any friends or family that can help get you away from this person? Do you live with this person?

 

[not_a_robot]

Has someone messed with your mind so bad that they ended up breaking you apart. Ever since I met them I havent been the same, they tore my brain apart. They kept loving and hating me to the point my brain just broke. I dont know who I am, i dont feel real, I feel like an entity that's here just to create. I attempted last night, it did workout well I wouldn't call it an attempt more of a practice. They ruined me I was so.much happier before I met them. I was in a dark place, but they sent me to a place even darker, a place where I wont come put alive. My heart is turning cold, my empathy is going away, my emotions are nothing and I'm losing interest in life itself. Who am I? How did i get here? I dont know anymore, I just need to keep creating, my self is going to vanish soon. Love is dangerous and unempathetic, love can destroy your whole psyche. Especially at the hands of someone who wants your soul.

Honey, we have people trying to do that to us as we speak, right here on SS.

 

[Black_Knight]

Honey, we have people trying to do that to us as we speak, right here on SS.

Where? Is there an underbelly to this place that isn't immediately apparent?

 

[not_a_robot]

Where? Is there an underbelly to this place that isn't immediately apparent?

Isn't that true for *every* place?
This place is no exception.

 

[Black_Knight]

Isn't that true for *every* place?
This place is no exception.

Ha, true. Can't contradict that with any of my experiences. That's kind of sad. I was hoping otherwise. I'll do my best to remain a surface-strider, in that light.

 

[blueexorcist]

Has someone messed with your mind so bad that they ended up breaking you apart. Ever since I met them I havent been the same, they tore my brain apart. They kept loving and hating me to the point my brain just broke. I dont know who I am, i dont feel real, I feel like an entity that's here just to create. I attempted last night, it did workout well I wouldn't call it an attempt more of a practice. They ruined me I was so.much happier before I met them. I was in a dark place, but they sent me to a place even darker, a place where I wont come put alive. My heart is turning cold, my empathy is going away, my emotions are nothing and I'm losing interest in life itself. Who am I? How did i get here? I dont know anymore, I just need to keep creating, my self is going to vanish soon. Love is dangerous and unempathetic, love can destroy your whole psyche. Especially at the hands of someone who wants your soul.

I had a toxic ex... somehow to this day, I still love him with all my heart and would never want him in any harm.. he was the first person to truly try for me and make me feel like I was worth something to someone.

But at the same time... he could be the complete opposite... obviously I was used as a working and fully-functioning sperm-dump... but I felt like he was genuine at first... I was happy..

What I Monitored Over:
- social media (no social media unless it was for work. All passwords go to him. Now I have 2x authentication security on everything and extreme paranoia)
- location (was always on for him and if it wasn't, he'd get mad)
- my money I earn (I'd have to give him money every week for his daily needs/gaming/etc..)
- mindset (no sad talk, just happy talk)
- friends (I have no friends bc if I didn't push them away, he'd get angry and I'd get scared. To this day I am still fearful to my knees about making new friends... it's difficult to live in such isolation)
- where I worked (he made me quit a job because he didn't like my coworkers)

Impact On Me:
- trust issues (extremely)
- no interest in love/sex with anyone besides him
- constant fear/disgust of men
- constant prejudice against men
- he took a check from me (it was the most I ever made.. ever) and got angry when I asked for it back.
- fear of everything regarding social events/going out the house. I even fear going out to get my nails done
- self-doubt/low self-worth/extreme self-hatred (started drinking secretly)
- hair falling out in larger amounts than usual due to the stress (extreme stress till the point of suicidal insomnia)
- lack of motivation in life
- fear of rejection
- loss of will to live (not because of him, but what his ideas represented. They've made me begin to look at myself and hate myself in ways I've never hated myself before... and believe me, I've always hated myself...)
- extreme bitterness, anger, and sadness
- loneliness (he made sure I was home at all times. I've got blank white walls... so it feels like a psych ward when I'm home alone.. it really does drive someone nuts)

What I Provided For Him:
- money (from my minimum wage check and student schedule... kinda tiring)
- begged my manager to give him a job... which he got fired from on the first day... made me look bad
- food (UberEats/going out to eat)
- loyalty/love (I never strayed. I feared even looking at another man when he was around)
- sex (even when I wasn't up for it or just came straight from work, I'd do it to please him. No one had ever regarded me even close to being noticed besides him... at first)
- attentiveness (Ex. If he wanted me to leave my job early to see him, usually for sex and movies, I'd fake illness to do so)
- did all his paperwork for courses he needed done, despite already having my own pile of things to do
- got a birth control implant. Because he didn't want me pregnant.

I love him, truly. But... after he just left without any type of reason... I knew he'd found someone new... he just didn't see me as attractive anymore (I lack physically). My heart really does hurt. If I could have that same happiness I had all at first without all the shitty hecticness that came right after, I'd do it all over again.

And that, my friends, is one way to fuck someone up mentally. Something far worse than stubbing your toe on a Lego piece at 12AM.

 

[not_a_robot]

I had a toxic ex... somehow to this day, I still love him with all my heart and would never want him in any harm.. he was the first person to truly try for me and make me feel like I was worth something to someone.

But at the same time... he could be the complete opposite... obviously I was used as a working and fully-functioning sperm-dump... but I felt like he was genuine at first... I was happy..

What I Monitored Over:
- social media (no social media unless it was for work. All passwords go to him. Now I have 2x authentication security on everything and extreme paranoia)
- location (was always on for him and if it wasn't, he'd get mad)
- my money I earn (I'd have to give him money every week for his daily needs/gaming/etc..)
- mindset (no sad talk, just happy talk)
- friends (I have no friends bc if I didn't push them away, he'd get angry and I'd get scared. To this day I am still fearful to my knees about making new friends... it's difficult to live in such isolation)
- where I worked (he made me quit a job because he didn't like my coworkers)

Impact On Me:
- trust issues (extremely)
- no interest in love/sex with anyone besides him
- constant fear/disgust of men
- constant prejudice against men
- he took a check from me (it was the most I ever made.. ever) and got angry when I asked for it back.
- fear of everything regarding social events/going out the house. I even fear going out to get my nails done
- self-doubt/low self-worth/extreme self-hatred (started drinking secretly)
- hair falling out in larger amounts than usual due to the stress (extreme stress till the point of suicidal insomnia)
- lack of motivation in life
- fear of rejection
- loss of will to live (not because of him, but what his ideas represented. They've made me begin to look at myself and hate myself in ways I've never hated myself before... and believe me, I've always hated myself...)
- extreme bitterness, anger, and sadness
- loneliness (he made sure I was home at all times. I've got blank white walls... so it feels like a psych ward when I'm home alone.. it really does drive someone nuts)

What I Provided For Him:
- money (from my minimum wage check and student schedule... kinda tiring)
- begged my manager to give him a job... which he got fired from on the first day... made me look bad
- food (UberEats/going out to eat)
- loyalty/love (I never strayed. I feared even looking at another man when he was around)
- sex (even when I wasn't up for it or just came straight from work, I'd do it to please him. No one had ever regarded me even close to being noticed besides him... at first)
- attentiveness (Ex. If he wanted me to leave my job early to see him, usually for sex and movies, I'd fake illness to do so)
- did all his paperwork for courses he needed done, despite already having my own pile of things to do
- got a birth control implant. Because he didn't want me pregnant.

I love him, truly. But... after he just left without any type of reason... I knew he'd found someone new... he just didn't see me as attractive anymore (I lack physically). My heart really does hurt. If I could have that same happiness I had all at first without all the shitty hecticness that came right after, I'd do it all over again.

And that, my friends, is one way to fuck someone up mentally. Something far worse than stubbing your toe on a Lego piece at 12AM.

If you're actually unattractive you're lucky, otherwise some guy will definitely pimp you out eventually, with such non-existent self-esteem.

 

[blueexorcist]

If you're actually unattractive you're lucky, otherwise some guy will definitely pimp you out eventually, with such non-existent self-esteem.

True true true

 

[not_a_robot]

True true true

Honestly, I don't want to hurt your feelings but, 99% of what's in your post, he did not do to you, you chose to do to yourself. You were desperate to harm yourself and he was just an opportunist taking advantage of the situation, like a coyote eating roadkill. You would probably be safer just hiring a boxer to beat you up once a month to get all the masochism out of your system, than trying to be in relationships. That is subservience and self-hate on a really unhealthy spectrum, and healthy men will never be drawn to it, but scavengers and predators will happily come to feed, and every time you let them, you will hate yourself more, and crave more and more abuse.
Sorry, not trying to "fix" you, just be careful, I guess.

 

[blueexorcist]

Honestly, I don't want to hurt your feelings but, 99% of what's in your post, he did not do to you, you chose to do to yourself. You were desperate to harm yourself and he was just an opportunist taking advantage of the situation, like a coyote eating roadkill. You would probably be safer just hiring a boxer to beat you up once a month to get all the masochism out of your system, than trying to be in relationships. That is subservience and self-hate on a really unhealthy spectrum, and healthy men will never be drawn to it, but scavengers and predators will happily come to feed, and every time you let them, you will hate yourself more, and crave more and more abuse.
Sorry, not trying to "fix" you, just be careful, I guess.

Again, I agree. I do have quite a malleable mind bc I am quite vulnerable

 

[Seven]

I had a toxic ex... somehow to this day, I still love him with all my heart and would never want him in any harm.. he was the first person to truly try for me and make me feel like I was worth something to someone.

But at the same time... he could be the complete opposite... obviously I was used as a working and fully-functioning sperm-dump... but I felt like he was genuine at first... I was happy..

What I Monitored Over:
- social media (no social media unless it was for work. All passwords go to him. Now I have 2x authentication security on everything and extreme paranoia)
- location (was always on for him and if it wasn't, he'd get mad)
- my money I earn (I'd have to give him money every week for his daily needs/gaming/etc..)
- mindset (no sad talk, just happy talk)
- friends (I have no friends bc if I didn't push them away, he'd get angry and I'd get scared. To this day I am still fearful to my knees about making new friends... it's difficult to live in such isolation)
- where I worked (he made me quit a job because he didn't like my coworkers)

Impact On Me:
- trust issues (extremely)
- no interest in love/sex with anyone besides him
- constant fear/disgust of men
- constant prejudice against men
- he took a check from me (it was the most I ever made.. ever) and got angry when I asked for it back.
- fear of everything regarding social events/going out the house. I even fear going out to get my nails done
- self-doubt/low self-worth/extreme self-hatred (started drinking secretly)
- hair falling out in larger amounts than usual due to the stress (extreme stress till the point of suicidal insomnia)
- lack of motivation in life
- fear of rejection
- loss of will to live (not because of him, but what his ideas represented. They've made me begin to look at myself and hate myself in ways I've never hated myself before... and believe me, I've always hated myself...)
- extreme bitterness, anger, and sadness
- loneliness (he made sure I was home at all times. I've got blank white walls... so it feels like a psych ward when I'm home alone.. it really does drive someone nuts)

What I Provided For Him:
- money (from my minimum wage check and student schedule... kinda tiring)
- begged my manager to give him a job... which he got fired from on the first day... made me look bad
- food (UberEats/going out to eat)
- loyalty/love (I never strayed. I feared even looking at another man when he was around)
- sex (even when I wasn't up for it or just came straight from work, I'd do it to please him. No one had ever regarded me even close to being noticed besides him... at first)
- attentiveness (Ex. If he wanted me to leave my job early to see him, usually for sex and movies, I'd fake illness to do so)
- did all his paperwork for courses he needed done, despite already having my own pile of things to do
- got a birth control implant. Because he didn't want me pregnant.

I love him, truly. But... after he just left without any type of reason... I knew he'd found someone new... he just didn't see me as attractive anymore (I lack physically). My heart really does hurt. If I could have that same happiness I had all at first without all the shitty hecticness that came right after, I'd do it all over again.

And that, my friends, is one way to fuck someone up mentally. Something far worse than stubbing your toe on a Lego piece at 12AM.

Jesus I'm so sorry to hear about that I could imagine it was pure hell especially if he controlled you that much. I know exactly how you feel I still care for this person I'm torn, I dont know I love the bubbly kind side of this person but dislike the judgemental cold, critical side where everything I do is wrong. To be honest thr good times weren't worth the pain I am in now. If I could go back I'd prevent myself from ever meeting that person. I feel ruined and I was tossed aside they started dating someone while things were distant. I miss them but they aren't the person I fell in love with. They are going through hell but before then they were just some cold person. What broke me is that they would say they wanted to fix things later. Then they didn't want to, they said they still loved me and go acted like they hated me. I'm confused and hurt, I dont know what to do but they are slipping from my mind day by day I'm forgetting them and soon they will become a bad dream I had. It was all just a bad dream this whole year has been a dream i need to wake up from. I just need to wake up....

 

[Quantumsupply]

individuals categorized in the cluster b disorders (like for example psychopaths) manipulate by something called 'love bombing' in which the victim is idealized strongly followed by a phase of devaluation. it's like being on drugs: the drop is so fatal that the victim gets addicted rather quickly. After the abusive relationship, the victim feels empty, broken as if their identity was stolen from them. the abuser actually takes joy in watching the victim falling apart. cluster b people have a lack of empathy - they dont give a shit.
your description reminds me of this phenomena.

Do you think that they actually enjoy watching people fall apart or are just broken souls themselves?

 

[blueexorcist]

Do you think that they actually enjoy watching people fall apart or are just broken souls themselves?

Maybe a little of both? If they're torn, maybe it's easier for them to live with their pain while watching someone else suffer as well to feel less lonely enduring it..?

 

[Quantumsupply]

Maybe a little of both? If they're torn, maybe it's easier for them to live with their pain while watching someone else suffer as well to feel less lonely enduring it..?

I think most people don't actively try to be evil. I could be wrong.

 

[blueexorcist]

I think most people don't actively try to be evil. I could be wrong.

True. I just thought one would feel less alone and more included if they saw another person suffering too? Not to say that they'd enjoy seeing the other in pain, per say, but feel like they can empathise with this other person to feel less lonely? That's just my view on it... maybe I'm thinking too hard

 

[JoeFailure]

Probably myself. I lived in some kind of fantasy world for the first 34 years of my life.

It's almost like PTSD when you actually see how hard and unforgiving life is in a matter of a couple of months after you've lived your whole life believing something else. I literally think my body and brain is still recovering from the shock.

 

[HGL91]

I had a toxic ex... somehow to this day, I still love him with all my heart and would never want him in any harm.. he was the first person to truly try for me and make me feel like I was worth something to someone.

But at the same time... he could be the complete opposite... obviously I was used as a working and fully-functioning sperm-dump... but I felt like he was genuine at first... I was happy..

What I Monitored Over:
- social media (no social media unless it was for work. All passwords go to him. Now I have 2x authentication security on everything and extreme paranoia)
- location (was always on for him and if it wasn't, he'd get mad)
- my money I earn (I'd have to give him money every week for his daily needs/gaming/etc..)
- mindset (no sad talk, just happy talk)
- friends (I have no friends bc if I didn't push them away, he'd get angry and I'd get scared. To this day I am still fearful to my knees about making new friends... it's difficult to live in such isolation)
- where I worked (he made me quit a job because he didn't like my coworkers)

Impact On Me:
- trust issues (extremely)
- no interest in love/sex with anyone besides him
- constant fear/disgust of men
- constant prejudice against men
- he took a check from me (it was the most I ever made.. ever) and got angry when I asked for it back.
- fear of everything regarding social events/going out the house. I even fear going out to get my nails done
- self-doubt/low self-worth/extreme self-hatred (started drinking secretly)
- hair falling out in larger amounts than usual due to the stress (extreme stress till the point of suicidal insomnia)
- lack of motivation in life
- fear of rejection
- loss of will to live (not because of him, but what his ideas represented. They've made me begin to look at myself and hate myself in ways I've never hated myself before... and believe me, I've always hated myself...)
- extreme bitterness, anger, and sadness
- loneliness (he made sure I was home at all times. I've got blank white walls... so it feels like a psych ward when I'm home alone.. it really does drive someone nuts)

What I Provided For Him:
- money (from my minimum wage check and student schedule... kinda tiring)
- begged my manager to give him a job... which he got fired from on the first day... made me look bad
- food (UberEats/going out to eat)
- loyalty/love (I never strayed. I feared even looking at another man when he was around)
- sex (even when I wasn't up for it or just came straight from work, I'd do it to please him. No one had ever regarded me even close to being noticed besides him... at first)
- attentiveness (Ex. If he wanted me to leave my job early to see him, usually for sex and movies, I'd fake illness to do so)
- did all his paperwork for courses he needed done, despite already having my own pile of things to do
- got a birth control implant. Because he didn't want me pregnant.

I love him, truly. But... after he just left without any type of reason... I knew he'd found someone new... he just didn't see me as attractive anymore (I lack physically). My heart really does hurt. If I could have that same happiness I had all at first without all the shitty hecticness that came right after, I'd do it all over again.

And that, my friends, is one way to fuck someone up mentally. Something far worse than stubbing your toe on a Lego piece at 12AM.

Makes me teary eyed to read this because I just had the SAME experience with my last boyfriend of almost 3 years. I needed family and cops, just to get my stuff out and leave safely!

Though, my other relationship of 4 years was the same way, so now I just believe that romantic love isn't real and all the married couples I know that have been together for 30+ years are probably secretly miserable, and when I read news about couples killing each other, I'm not surprised at all.

 

[blueexorcist]

Makes me teary eyed to read this because I just had the SAME experience with my last boyfriend of almost 3 years. I needed family and cops, just to get my stuff out and leave safely!

Though, my other relationship of 4 years was the same way, so now I just believe that romantic love isn't real and all the married couples I know that have been together for 30+ years are probably secretly miserable, and when I read news about couples killing each other, I'm not surprised at all.

I'm the same way. I just feel very numb inside after being with him. Of course, there was wrong done on both sides, it still won't change the damage that was inflicted either way. But I get you (⁎⁍̴̛ᴗ⁍̴̛⁎)

 

[not_a_robot]

Do you think that they actually enjoy watching people fall apart or are just broken souls themselves?

hahaha, they fucking loooooove it. They are sadists to the bone, not lost puppies you can fix with care. They hate everyone, including themselves.

 

[IMALB]

Oh yeah ..... busted me up but good. Don't trust a single soul anymore ...... nope, not one

 

[not_a_robot]

Jesus I'm so sorry to hear about that I could imagine it was pure hell especially if he controlled you that much. I know exactly how you feel I still care for this person I'm torn, I dont know I love the bubbly kind side of this person but dislike the judgemental cold, critical side where everything I do is wrong. To be honest thr good times weren't worth the pain I am in now. If I could go back I'd prevent myself from ever meeting that person. I feel ruined and I was tossed aside they started dating someone while things were distant. I miss them but they aren't the person I fell in love with. They are going through hell but before then they were just some cold person. What broke me is that they would say they wanted to fix things later. Then they didn't want to, they said they still loved me and go acted like they hated me. I'm confused and hurt, I dont know what to do but they are slipping from my mind day by day I'm forgetting them and soon they will become a bad dream I had. It was all just a bad dream this whole year has been a dream i need to wake up from. I just need to wake up....

Masochists experience pure joy while the partner is abusing/controlling them, they love giving up autonomy because it is giving up responsibility.
They only hurt *after* the partner leaves/stops the abuse. Then it's all "look how they hurt me!"

 

[HGL91]

I'm the same way. I just feel very numb inside after being with him. Of course, there was wrong done on both sides, it still won't change the damage that was inflicted either way. But I get you (⁎⁍̴̛ᴗ⁍̴̛⁎)

Yes. Numbness is a very common feeling. Took me 3 long months to have emotions other than being emotionless or sad.

 

[Quantumsupply]

hahaha, they fucking loooooove it. They are sadists to the bone, not lost puppies you can fix with care. They hate everyone, including themselves.

I'm assuming most people here hate themselves as well, as it is a forum for those wanting to commit suicide. I've had loving relationships, most recently with a loving angelic girl who I treated terribly. I wasn't violent but sometimes was verbally abusive. Especially when drunk. Through it all though( she left), I never wanted to hurt her. I just didn't love myself to not constantly do wrong, whether it be infidelity(constantly) or being rude to her because I was in a bad mood/ feeling bad about something.
As terrible as I was to her, it certainly never brought me any joy to be bad to her. I always felt guilty with the cheating.
Honestly losing her and a recent medical diagnosis is why I need to CTB.
But either way I think that often people hurt the people that care for them the most because they don't feel that they deserve love. I think the population of true sadists, as in people that know they've hurt another person and it makes them feel good, has got to be really small.

 

[Ladylethal]

I am completely broken...Lots of people have broken me in fact haha I just realized my little sister yet again had used me and it just solidified my belief that I'm a broken, stupid fucking piece of shit. And people on this site get so annoyed when I say I'm stupid but whatever. It's true. I can't wait to close my eyes and sleep forever. Smartest decision I'll ever make.

 

[not_a_robot]

I'm assuming most people here hate themselves as well, as it is a forum for those wanting to commit suicide. I've had loving relationships, most recently with a loving angelic girl who I treated terribly. I wasn't violent but sometimes was verbally abusive. Especially when drunk. Through it all though( she left), I never wanted to hurt her. I just didn't love myself to not constantly do wrong, whether it be infidelity(constantly) or being rude to her because I was in a bad mood/ feeling bad about something.
As terrible as I was to her, it certainly never brought me any joy to be bad to her. I always felt guilty with the cheating.
Honestly losing her and a recent medical diagnosis is why I need to CTB.
But either way I think that often people hurt the people that care for them the most because they don't feel that they deserve love. I think the population of true sadists, as in people that know they've hurt another person and it makes them feel good, has got to be really small.

keep telling yourself that.

 

[pole]

Has someone messed with your mind so bad that they ended up breaking you apart. Ever since I met them I havent been the same, they tore my brain apart. They kept loving and hating me to the point my brain just broke. I dont know who I am, i dont feel real, I feel like an entity that's here just to create. I attempted last night, it did workout well I wouldn't call it an attempt more of a practice. They ruined me I was so.much happier before I met them. I was in a dark place, but they sent me to a place even darker, a place where I wont come put alive. My heart is turning cold, my empathy is going away, my emotions are nothing and I'm losing interest in life itself. Who am I? How did i get here? I dont know anymore, I just need to keep creating, my self is going to vanish soon. Love is dangerous and unempathetic, love can destroy your whole psyche. Especially at the hands of someone who wants your soul.

Mines pretty easy. I broke myself through false hope and false expectations, ultimately responsible for my own heartbreaks. others can probably relate as well.

 

[dreamsofdestruction]

I don't know.

 

[pole]

hahaha, they fucking loooooove it. They are sadists to the bone, not lost puppies you can fix with care. They hate everyone, including themselves.

Yeah, i dont think anyones just truly broken and thats why they do what they do, and commit such disgusting acts. you can see it in criminals and why they commit such heinous acts, and just regular people who couldnt give 10 shits about their significant other and cheat on them in a split second without no hesitation. thats just the type of people they are.