Has anyone actually succeeded at night-night/carotid compression?

[anxiousguineapig]

I've been interested in this method for a while, and I've gotten to the point where I can reliably compress my carotid arteries by pulling a cord/rope around my neck (I've never actually passed out because it requires a lot of force to hold it in place, and I get too weak to hold it before I fully pass out - I'm certain I would if I could somehow keep holding onto the rope). However, I've seen people say this method is unreliable or has never actually worked, and I'm wondering if I'm missing something because this just feels too easy.

My only theory is that it's somehow harder to get the angle/compression right when tightening it properly, instead of just holding it. I do notice that it works best when I hold it right under my jaw, which might be harder to achieve when I'm not holding it. Unfortunately, I can't figure out how I would test it more accurately since holding it is the "failsafe" for me, and the effects happen too quickly to rely on loosening/releasing anything. Still though

Does anyone have experience with this? am I missing something, or is it really this easy?

 

[Kali_Yuga13]

I haven't tested it but I've gone through the guide and it's one of the top methods I'd consider. Night-night uses the mechanical principal behind the rear naked choke martial arts move. If done right it takes very little time pass out and die. The guide says to use sand bags from the the corn hole toss game. This takes out the guess work to fully isolate the carotid as the dispersed pressure from the bags simulates one's neck being wedged between the forearm and bicep in the choke move with the ratchet strap applying consistent pressure. I don't see how this can be tested safely aside from having someone actually perform the rear naked choke until you tap out and they can instantly release it.

 

[anxiousguineapig]

yeah, my concern is that I'm not aware of many people who have actually successfully used it, and a number of people here say it's very unreliable. I don't understand that personally, because my own experience has been that it's very easy to get the compression, but I also haven't actually attempted with this method so I'm nto sure if I'm just lucky or if I'm missing something that makes my attempts unrealistic.

fwiw, I've tried with and without extra stuff around my neck (though not cornhole bags specifically) and I'm not convinced they're necessary or even helpful. I've actually never been able to successfully compress the carotids when using them, but have no trouble with just a rope/cord. I also suspect that some failures are because any movement after going unconscious, either convulsions or just falling over, could make them come out from the rope and leave it too loose to compress the arteries. I have used thin padding like a blanket, which does make it more comfortable and slightly easier, but I would skip the cornhole bags personally.

 

[LetMeBeSad]

yeah, my concern is that I'm not aware of many people who have actually successfully used it, and a number of people here say it's very unreliable. I don't understand that personally, because my own experience has been that it's very easy to get the compression, but I also haven't actually attempted with this method so I'm nto sure if I'm just lucky or if I'm missing something that makes my attempts unrealistic.

fwiw, I've tried with and without extra stuff around my neck (though not cornhole bags specifically) and I'm not convinced they're necessary or even helpful. I've actually never been able to successfully compress the carotids when using them, but have no trouble with just a rope/cord. I also suspect that some failures are because any movement after going unconscious, either convulsions or just falling over, could make them come out from the rope and leave it too loose to compress the arteries. I have used thin padding like a blanket, which does make it more comfortable and slightly easier, but I would skip the cornhole bags personally.

I think one of the reasons people find it unreliable is that they cannot compress the arteries properly. Speaking for myself, I have blood choked people and been blood choked. I know how it feels and how it is supposed to be done. It didn't take me long to get it right with a ratchet strap and a couple pairs of bundled socks. The ratchet strap can be tightened without much difficulty and the socks perform a similar function as the corn hole bags. It took some fidgeting but, like I said, I know what I'm looking for when it comes to blood chokes. When I finally decide to go, it's definitely going to be my chosen method.

 

[BlackEyedDog]

Is a ratchet strap more reliable than a hangman's knot using a static climbing rope? For now this is the method I'm researching and truly want to be able to pass out quickly.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Is a ratchet strap more reliable than a hangman's knot using a static climbing rope? For now this is the method I'm researching and truly want to be able to pass out quickly.

You neither use a hangman's knot nor a noose for NN. Here's the Megathread:

The "night-night" method mega thread.

Hey everyone, Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything. We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[sos]

Is a ratchet strap more reliable than a hangman's knot using a static climbing rope? For now this is the method I'm researching and truly want to be able to pass out quickly.

you'll need a slipknot instead of a hangmans knot.

i seemed to have more success with a rope than the ratchet strap / tourniquet.

i guess that really depends on how lucky you are / finding that perfect spot.

 

[spentspirit]

Interesting, others in the forum say this method is kind-of unreliable but I would guess they're using a ratchet strap.

Maybe yes, then, the rope is better. I have read of folks who just end up waking up some hours later though, and I know that if you don't succeed you can become a vegetable.

 

[anxiousguineapig]

Yeah the shape of the ratchet strap seems like it may not be ideal since it's quite thick. Everything I've used to test it has been thin (rope, a phone charger cord) and something thicker might make it harder to apply intense pressure.
but yeah, what makes me nervous is the peopel who have woken up after passing out. I think it's possible some of those could be due to the cornhole bags moving/falling out (which would reduce the compression) but I doubt it explains all of them. I wish there were more documented cases of successes that coudl be compared.

 

[trs]

supposedly according to the literature, all you need is a rope (or other tied implement) held and tied tight over the appropriate location, and this will not cause negative side effects beyond the artery compression, but I tried it and it simply is not true. It caused compression of my airway and caused intolerable pressure build up in my face/head without actually causing any significant artery compression, in other words it didn't cause me to come close to passing out. and yes I had the rope in the exact right place, I have no problem finding my carotids. I have a fairly skinny neck. I don't know what to do.

 

[anxiousguineapig]

Yeah I think some people's anatomy must be better for it than others. Out of curiosity, did your windpipe actually collapse/close? if it didn't you may just need more pressure, a lot of sources make it sound like you just gently compress and pass out, but it really requires a lot and is uncomfortable when done correctly.

 

[trs]

you'll need a slipknot instead of a hangmans knot.

i seemed to have more success with a rope than the ratchet strap / tourniquet.

i guess that really depends on how lucky you are / finding that perfect spot.

compressing the arteries to cause intended effects requires a tremendous pressure, and then without it causing other negative effects is nearly impossible, can not find any actual success stories here. people just say, yeah I'm able to compress the carotid, but it requires compression beyond blacking out to the point of death, and I don't know of anyone that occurred with. this method has problems.

Yeah I think some people's anatomy must be better for it than others. Out of curiosity, did your windpipe actually collapse/close? if it didn't you may just need more pressure, a lot of sources make it sound like you just gently compress and pass out, but it really requires a lot and is uncomfortable when done correctly.

this is very true, requires tremendous compression, it is not comfortable at all, and compresses the rest of the neck so badly it seems ridiculous.

 

[anxiousguineapig]

I think you interpreted my comment a little too harshly. to be clear, my only issue with this method is that I'm curious about the failures that happen after people pass out. it's uncomfortable to compress the carotids, sure, but it lasts maybe 30 seconds and after that there are no other negative effects. Not being able to compress the carotids is a separate issue but what I'm trying to figure out is why this method sometimes fails for people who *can* compress them. If you can do it, the discomfort is really very manageable.

Also, "compression past the point of blacking out" doesn't make sense. If your brain is oxygen-deprived enough that you black out and blood flow isn't restored, you will die. The exact amount it's compressed could impact the time it takes to die (like, 5 vs 15 minutes, give or take) but if the pressure isn't released, you won't regain consciousness. i.e. you die.

 

[AmericanMary]

About ten people have (consensually) blood choked me to the point of blacking out. But let go when I do. Which is the first half of this method, if I understand correctly.

For the life of me, I cannot do it to myself. I tried for HOURS. I can't. I don't think it's SI, I think I just can't figure it out correctly. I love the way it feels, I'm comfortable and use to how it feels.

This shit is hard. But I rly do believe it could work.

**this is just my very short lived experience with this method. Eventually I gave up trying and switched methods. If I could get it to work, this would be my ideal method. Hands down.