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Salt is truly painful.. we should think Of something else. Charcoal is a no go because of your surroundings I think..
There's a huge bag of it, you got it right - one of the best ways to go and I can't use it.
You know from what I've read, and there isn't much info, it says when pulmonary edema or brain edema finally happens people are usually already unconscious. Do you know about this?

does your mother have a dacha? you could go there for a bit whilst you think this all through.
Well, we're living in a detached house in the countryside right now, you could call THIS a dacha, but it's not helping. I thought nobody would know here, but the person who started this has been very fucking determined.

Guys I really have thought this over, I don't mind dying, I've had an interesting life i really have. Ive tried everything i wanted except love but tough shit. Obviously i wish i didnt HAVE TO do it, but its not the death im afraid of, not in the slightest. Put it this way - if I had a lethal dose of heroin right now I d be the happiest guy on the planet, I wouldn't think twice,

I'm thinking. Salt could work. It's got to be today, there's no point putting it off, I'm not gonna get heroin back in the city.
OK, I think I'm past the point where I could safely leave the house, he's up and smoking in the kitchen.
This is ridiculous, it's a fucking groundhog day.
I wish I hadn't tried doing partial. I should ve done full on first attempt, it would have been horrible but I would have only found out when there'd be nothing to do.
 
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arelia

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There's a huge bag of it, you got it right - one of the best ways to go and I can't use it.
You know from what I've read, and there isn't much info, it says when pulmonary edema or brain edema finally happens people are usually already unconscious. Do you know about this?


Well, we're living in a detached house in the countryside right now, you could call THIS a dacha, but it's not helping. I thought nobody would know here, but the person who started this has been very fucking determined.

Guys I really have thought this over, I don't mind dying, I've had an interesting life i really have. Ive tried everything i wanted except love but tough shit. Obviously i wish i didnt HAVE TO do it, but its not the death im afraid of, not in the slightest. Put it this way - if I had a lethal dose of heroin right now I d be the happiest guy on the planet, I wouldn't think twice,

I'm thinking. Salt could work. It's got to be today, there's no point putting it off, I'm not gonna get heroin back in the city.
OK, I think I'm past the point where I could safely leave the house, he's up and smoking in the kitchen.
This is ridiculous, it's a fucking groundhog day.
I wish I hadn't tried doing partial. I should ve done full on first attempt, it would have been horrible but I would have only found out when there'd be nothing to do.
by the look of it you're not going to be able to do much more tonight, so I say get some rest and then plan it tomorrow when you're fresh.
 
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PLEASE STOP AND READ THIS!

I saw the pack of cigarettes you posted and I think I have the general idea of where you are. Indeed, our countries are really homophobic, but I know some men and women with ties to the LGBT organisations that might be able to help if you are where I think you are. Unfortunately I cannot PM you. Would you leave your email here for me please?
 
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by the look of it you're not going to be able to do much more tonight, so I say get some rest and then plan it tomorrow when you're fresh.
I hate myself for flaking again. I just sat there the whole night smoking and reading your posts, didn't even GO to the shed, didn't even try. I normally sleep 10 am to 5pm these days, I still have time to try partial in the house when mum gets up (the weathers super nice here, they're gonna be in the yard first thing in the morning), and I still can take the salt. Have been looking it up for the past hour again, all the info I can get, there's conflicting data.
PLEASE STOP AND READ THIS!

I saw the pack of cigarettes you posted and I think I have the general idea of where you are. Indeed, our countries are really homophobic, but I know some men and women with ties to the LGBT organisations that might be able to help if you are where I think you are. Unfortunately I cannot PM you. Would you leave your email here for me please?
It's pretty obvious where I am, yep.
I don't need their help unless it's pharmaceutical and they definitely dont provide that kind of service xD
[email protected] - лови)

Fingers crossed I'll black out during the partial.

You guys are amazing. I can't thank you enough.
 
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I hate myself for flaking again. I just sat there the whole night smoking and reading your posts, didn't even GO to the shed, didn't even try. I normally sleep 10 am to 5pm these days, I still have time to try partial in the house when mum gets up (the weathers super nice here, they're gonna be in the yard first thing in the morning), and I still can take the salt. Have been looking it up for the past hour again, all the info I can get, there's conflicting data.

It's pretty obvious where I am, yep.
I don't need their help unless it's pharmaceutical and they definitely dont provide that kind of service xD
[email protected] - лови)

Fingers crossed I'll black out during the partial.

You guys are amazing. I can't thank you enough.
I want to talk to you m8. Please hold on a bit.
 
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OK, I've calmed down a bit, here's what I'm gonna do.
Salt is fucking humiliating. I'm gonna try partial as soon as I'm sure they're safely out of the house, if it doesn't work out then I'll have a go at full tomorrow night, and if that doesn't work I'll have to wait till Monday when we get back to the city and hopefully I'll be able to escape home and go to the rail tracks.

I think partials gonna work this time, guys. I just have a hunch.
I just got an email from someone ("U from..."), but for some reason I can't reply, so I'll do it here:

Yeah, you guessed correctly
You know, I just don't have the energy to fight and the outing has been so traumatic - please understand I'm not just gay but into bdsm and Chem sex scene, this is unthinkable for most people here, and I just really really want out.
I'm an English teacher and interpreter, I won't be able to find work ever again, I've had police officers refuse to help me because of my background, and it's just best to go. I was not psychologically ready for hanging tonight, i can see it now, but Im feeling good about doing partial in a few hours time, I think it's gonna work this time, I just got this feeling.
THANK YOU, I had no idea there were so many sympathetic people on the forum.
 
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Какой регион? Чечня или Кавказ? Просто беги в другую область на такси. Там уже сможешь или пытаться восстановиться, или выпилиться мирным способом
 
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@Fordprefect I have read and re-read your story. For background, my brother is gay, I am an ex IV drug user, I was a dominatrix, and I now study law and I have volunteered in asylum seeker law. To say that your story hit some soft spots in my life is an understatement. I am truly horrified by what you have experienced.

No western country will deny your need for asylum. Your HIV status is irrelevant to the validity of your claim. I don't think I am being dramatic when I say that your life is in danger because of your circumstances. Your background as an interpreter is very helpful because it's a highly sought after skill. Do you have a passport? And is online banking accessible to you?

The main issue I can see here is the hopelessness you're feeling. You need money to get away from this place. We are firmly pro choice here, but the theme coming through your posts is that you don't feel like you have any choices. And that's not okay. You are facing absolutely horrific prosecution for being gay and kinky. I'm not being facetious - but those aren't reasons to die. Those are reasons to continue living and have great sex.

The prosecution going on is terrifying because it seems like ultimately, you're going to prosecute yourself for them in the most extreme way
 
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Какой регион? Чечня или Кавказ? Просто беги в другую область на такси. Там уже сможешь или пытаться восстановиться, или выпилиться мирным способом
If this happened in Chechnya I wouldnt be here to tell the story.
Believe it or not im near the capital
 
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If this happened in Chechnya I wouldnt be here to tell the story.
Believe it or not im near the capital
Первым же поездом или на попутках в Москву. В Москве и затеряться легко, и в хостел какой поселиться. Сама бомжевала в москве (приехала к парню из интернета, а он меня выставил за дверь на второй день), бухущая разъезжала на такси за красивые глаза, чуть не шагнула под поезд метро, но народ и кормил, и пивом угощал, хоть и принимали откровенно за проститутку.
Придумай более цивильную историю (приехал к девушке - обокрали, поехал на заработки - оказался кирпичный завод) и лови любую попутку на трассе. Без денег будет сложно, но можно. Документы/карта с собой? Мама не спрятала?
I don't think i need to translate it right now, sorry.
 
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@Fordprefect I have read and re-read your story. For background, my brother is gay, I am an ex IV drug user, I was a dominatrix, and I now study law and I have volunteered in asylum seeker law. To say that your story hit some soft spots in my life is an understatement. I am truly horrified by what you have experienced.

No western country will deny your need for asylum. Your HIV status is irrelevant to the validity of your claim. I don't think I am being dramatic when I say that your life is in danger because of your circumstances. Your background as an interpreter is very helpful because it's a highly sought after skill. Do you have a passport? And is online banking accessible to you?

The main issue I can see here is the hopelessness you're feeling. You need money to get away from this place. We are firmly pro choice here, but the theme coming through your posts is that you don't feel like you have any choices. And that's not okay. You are facing absolutely horrific prosecution for being gay and kinky. I'm not being facetious - but those aren't reasons to die. Those are reasons to continue living and have great sex.

The prosecution going on is terrifying because it seems like ultimately, you're going to prosecute yourself for them in the most extreme way

I love Jane Lane :)
Thank youfor your good advice, but I just haven't got the energy, and the aids thing kind of makes it pointless anyway.

Yeah, in a way I'm letting them kill me.
But you know what - and im so glad you'll understand what with your background - they should envy me. Absurd as this may sound, but the kind of life I've had is beyond their dreams. I'm not being condescending, what I'm saying is I have always done what I wanted. One particular drug has been a huge mistake, but the rest of it - I have no regrets. I'm 29 and I've had so much great sex they would not be able to process the sheer idea of it )
THANK YOU
 
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I love Jane Lane :)
Thank youfor your good advice, but I just haven't got the energy, and the aids thing kind of makes it pointless anyway.

Yeah, in a way I'm letting them kill me.
But you know what - and im so glad you'll understand what with your background - they should envy me. Absurd as this may sound, but the kind of life I've had is beyond their dreams. I'm not being condescending, what I'm saying is I have always done what I wanted. One particular drug has been a huge mistake, but the rest of it - I have no regrets. I'm 29 and I've had so much great sex they would not be able to process the sheer idea of it )
THANK YOU

The best sex I ever had has been while heavily intoxicated. It got me into some fucked up situations but it doesn't change how good the sex was.

But I am going to crack my whip now. Do you have a passport and access to internet banking?
 
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Первым же поездом или на попутках в Москву. В Москве и затеряться легко, и в хостел какой поселиться. Сама бомжевала в москве (приехала к парню из интернета, а он меня выставил за дверь на второй день), бухущая разъезжала на такси за красивые глаза, чуть не шагнула под поезд метро, но народ и кормил, и пивом угощал, хоть и принимали откровенно за проститутку.
Придумай более цивильную историю (приехал к девушке - обокрали, поехал на заработки - оказался кирпичный завод) и лови любую попутку на трассе. Без денег будет сложно, но можно. Документы/карта с собой? Мама не спрятала?
I don't think i need to translate it right now, sorry.
I'm only replying to you in English out of respect for other people reading this, of course you don't need to translate anything :) the thing is, I AM a muscovite myself, and this crazy shit storm started in Moscow. You ve no idea how effective state propaganda is. People are mad with hatred and it's so stupid and absurd.
 
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No western country will deny your need for asylum.

The US will. Maybe the rest would be better, but I couldn't say. Xenophobic, nativist sentiment is running pretty high in most of the West these days, and it's not just restricted to brown people and Muslims. You're right that his sexual orientation won't count against him, but that's the reality of being an immigrant these days.

That being said, @Fordprefect , see if you can find an LGBTQ support organization that's willing to help you try to get asylum in a Western country (and some assistance and support until then) - I'm only aware of Stimul, but they're not the only one operating in Russia, from what I've read.

So sorry for your situation. If you can, try to escape before trying to kill yourself. There are lots of places in the world where being gay isn't a crime or used as an excuse to persecute and abuse people, and there are organizations in Russia that will try to get you there.
 
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I'm only replying to you in English out of respect for other people reading this, of course you don't need to translate anything :) the thing is, I AM a muscovite myself, and this crazy shit storm started in Moscow. You ve no idea how effective state propaganda is. People are mad with hatred and it's so stupid and absurd.
Look. You're going to Moscow somehow. Buying SN (30r), meto (50r). Easy to ask for the money near the church or somewhere else. Not opiates ofc but at least painless and peaceful death. You only need your phone, no even passport or card. I don't think you are so popular that you'll meet many acquaintant people
 
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The US will. Maybe the rest would be better, but I couldn't say. Xenophobic, nativist sentiment is running pretty high in most of the West these days, and it's not just restricted to brown people and Muslims. You're right that his sexual orientation won't count against him, but that's the reality of being an immigrant these days.

That being said, @Fordprefect , see if you can find an LGBTQ support organization that's willing to help you try to get asylum in a Western country (and some assistance and support until then) - I'm only aware of Stimul, but they're not the only one operating in Russia, from what I've read.

So sorry for your situation. If you can, try to escape before trying to kill yourself. There are lots of places in the world where being gay isn't a crime or used as an excuse to persecute and abuse people, and there are organizations in Russia that will try to get you there.

In my experience, applications for asylum that include homosexuality as the reason for seeking asylum are better received by processing departments. That's specific to Australia though, and we have some of the most disgusting refugee laws in the world
 
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The best sex I ever had has been while heavily intoxicated. It got me into some fucked up situations but it doesn't change how good the sex was.

But I am going to crack my whip now. Do you have a passport and access to internet banking?
You've actually made me laugh, thanks :)
Nope, all my cards are frozen, mums hidden my documents. This is like psych ward, even my mobile is technically hers and can be turned off at her request.
This is exactly the kind of fucked up situation Chem sex can get you into xD
You know I'm really really OK with dying, it's just the method I'm worried about. I've had plenty of opportunity to emigrate when I was younger. I thought "why bother? Ive got all the drugs right here and the bdsm scene in Moscow is pretty fantastic". And it really is as long as you keep everything secret. I've been very careless when high on synthetic Stims what can I say xD flakka is a hell of a drug.
Look. You're going to Moscow somehow. Buying SN (30r), meto (50r). Easy to ask for the money near the church or somewhere else. Not opiates ofc but at least painless and peaceful death. You only need your phone, no even passport or card. I don't think you are so popular that you'll meet many acquaintant people
I can't give you all the details for obvious reasons, at least not yet, but yeah, I'm kind of a celebrity now among straight guys of my age especially in my neighborhood. Going out is scary, I've had drunk people assault me. It's this bad, that's why I'm doing this.
 
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In my experience, applications for asylum that include homosexuality as the reason for seeking asylum are better received by processing departments. That's specific to Australia though, and we have some of the most disgusting refugee laws in the world

Yeah, the land of Aus (:wink:) is a veritable immigration paradise compared to the US these days, which is trying every trick in the book to admit 0 refugees/asylum seekers, and deport as many people (legal, illegal, white, brown, temporary residents, permanent residents) as it can. I cannot recommend strongly enough against immigrating to the US these days... though in OP's case, it's probably better than his current country, at least until Trump has him deported back to his death. Still, probably better to try a different Western country, in my opinion.

Relatedly, and far from the only example, someone who was deported to death by the US government:

 
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@Fordprefect 5:34. You can go out wearing a medical mask, hoodie or somehow avoiding people, go to the highway. There look for the car with the number of another region.
Yeah, it's risky af. However Moscow will give you an opportunity to get drunk and jump or take sn. Def better than fail with table salt and get sectioned
 
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You know guys, I've read the last 90+ pages, and I think some of you might want to hear MY story, if only to get some perspective which quite a number of people here need sooo badly (for their own benefit I mean) - those wondering if they can od on paracetamol, Atarax, beta blockers, etc. You know you can't, and you probably just need a good therapist and I'd suggest Lexapro, but bear with me

First of all, this is hard core stuff, skip this thread if you're not into some of the darker things that life can throw at you

I really really HAVE TO die tonight, and its not really MY decision.

Here's my story

I have fucked up big time. I live in a very homophobic country and I happen to be gay and into quite serious bdsm and quite serious iv drugs (they fucked me up big time, I really went mad on them, lost all caution, never ever do hard drugs people.just don't). i'm progressing to AIDS as well, but this is a different story.

I have recently been outed on the Internet, my iCloud was hacked and every fucking bit of my sex life got public. The person who did this has made sure everyone who knows me finds out. And they have. But things got even moreoutof control, and basically its all over the socialnetworks in my city. People instantly recognize me everywhere I go, not that I've been leaving my house much as of late. Ive got people screaming abuse in front of my house every fucking day. My neighbors know everything, my family, everyone who knows me. My mum got an anonymous postcard the other day that said congratulations on the best son in the world. Can you imagine the kind of hell I'm in? All is lost. You have no idea what it's like. I can't work (I'm an interpreter), Im afraid to leave my house, afraid to look my mum in the eye, I get panic attacks just sitting in mums car.

Now, the darkest irony of life: if only I had about $50, I could easily get some heroin and od, but I have no money,no cards and I'm under house arrest and constantly watched by my mum and her boyfriend (I had tried to ctb before this whole crazy outing thing happened, had used phenobarbital mixed with alcohol, but fucked up the dose,was found, slept for 3 days and that was it)

I cannot describe the despair of it all. I just can't seem to fucking hang myself, I get into terrible si panic but don't lose consciousness at all, I have tried and tried, partial, standing, knot on the right,on the left, on the back, I just can't pass out quickly enough, and the panic is so physical, I don't want to die like this especially because I'm doing this whole fucking thing because of the bullying - I'd be so happy to turn back time... my carotids seem to be too deep, Idk, I can locate them perfectly well, but there's no question of passing out within 10 seconds or even 30 seconds, and it feels like an eternity.

Anyway, yesterday in my desperation I decided it would be much better to lay my head on the rail track, the nearest is about 15 km away, I thought I might steal the money from my mum to pay for the cab (leaving in the night), but Jesus fucking Christ - mum has hidden her purse, obviously in anticipation of this happening. Now some of you guys think getting your head decapitated by train wheels takes balls, Idk maybe Ive gone full batshit crazy, but I think hanging takes much more willpower, with the track ýou just wait for the buffer thing to go past you, then you put your neck on the rail and the jobs done in a second, and no I don't care about traumatizing other people, this is life, and for fucks sake I have been traumatized in the worst manner possible by these very people. I mean obviously I'd rather I had a guillotine at home, but I am TOTALLY desperate.

So, no money for the cab, no money at all actually, this method is out of question as well, I'm facing two options: excruciating hanging with the added difficulty of being found quickly (if i do it ill have to do it in the shed in the night), OR - and this is crazy - sodium CHLORIDE poisoning. Yep, table salt. Google it, pretty lethal if you take at least 3g/kg, I have found 250 g in the kitchen, but definitely need more, so it's not exactly foolproof which is again problematic. All the research on the Internet says it could be quite painful and as I understand it takes up to 24 hours to die, but amazingly it's very lethal even in smaller quantities and even if you get treatment. I mean I cannot believe theres not a single thread on table salt poisoning within those 90+ pages I've seen.

What Im trying to say is this. Just look at how fucked up things are for me, I can't believe you guys, especially those in the us or Europe, choose fucking hanging or jumping or trains or antidepressants or what have you when it's so easy to get 1 fucking g of heroin or better still some fentanyl, cook it up, shoot it up and quickly od. I mean Jesus Christ people, are you mad?I would give my soul to the deviI for that overdose, i can't believe I've been doing drugs for so long but have to die in these stupid ways...

I dk what to do. Salt poisoning will probably turn out to be very painful, and i am definitely gonna be found in this state and taken to hospital, but maybe it wont be that painful,, it says a lot of people get lethargic and then go into coma rather quickly. the chinese nobles apparently used to cbt throught this method, i mean it IS lethal in massive amounts,but the fucking pain again... but there's just something animal about the panic I get from hanging that just freaks me out,its horrible, it's the worst feeling I've ever had and I've had terrible come downs from drugs, but those were nowhere near as horrible as this feeling, I start to hyperventilate af, it just sucks

Anyway, I wrote this a couple of hours ago waiting for my account to be approved. I have decided against using table salt. My dad cbt 12 years ago, drank a bottle of vodka being disabled (his kidneys didn't work because of alcoholism), and he was dying for hours in terrible pain, I don't want that, I really don't.

Guys, Don't inflict unnecessary pain on yourselves. I mean if you really have to die like I do and you've got a little money and you're not disabled and can go out, just think about what I've said.

Fuck, I really cannot believe I have to die like this. Ive been depressed and suicidal my whole life, ive had so many opportunities to die without pain, and I've fucked it up big time. I can't believe I never thought of having that 1g of dope for a time like this. I want to scream in frustration

I'm gonna try hanging again today, with a different rope, full suspension. I suspect I'm gonna go in a very painful way after all. Don't repeat my mistakes guys.

Never do hard drugs people, especially if you've got things to hide.

Wish me luck guys I need it badly.
Even Hitler doesn't deserve the suffering you've been through. I'm so sorry about your predicament. Hope your exit will be as least painful as possible. Good luck. -hugs-
 
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You've actually made me laugh, thanks :)
Nope, all my cards are frozen, mums hidden my documents. This is like psych ward, even my mobile is technically hers and can be turned off at her request.
This is exactly the kind of fucked up situation Chem sex can get you into xD
You know I'm really really OK with dying, it's just the method I'm worried about. I've had plenty of opportunity to emigrate when I was younger. I thought "why bother? Ive got all the drugs right here and the bdsm scene in Moscow is pretty fantastic". And it really is as long as you keep everything secret. I've been very careless when high on synthetic Stims what can I say xD flakka is a hell of a drug.

I can't give you all the details for obvious reasons, at least not yet, but yeah, I'm kind of a celebrity now among straight guys of my age especially in my neighborhood. Going out is scary, I've had drunk people assault me. It's this bad, that's why I'm doing this.

I have been giggling at your username. I love hitchhikers guide

I totally get how you've ended up feeling like this. If you're truly set on it - and this is one of the more fucked up things I've ever said or suggested - is there a market in a city close by to hook up with someone for heroin for an overdose?

And on the other hand, is there any way of getting cash to you outside of internet banking? I've never had to transfer cash internationally without a bank account so I am not quite sure about how to do it... I just think money would solve a lot of issues here
Yeah, the land of Aus (:wink:) is a veritable immigration paradise compared to the US these days, which is trying every trick in the book to admit 0 refugees/asylum seekers, and deport as many people (legal, illegal, white, brown, temporary residents, permanent residents) as it can. I cannot recommend strongly enough against immigrating to the US these days... though in OP's case, it's probably better than his current country, at least until Trump has him deported back to his death. Still, probably better to try a different Western country, in my opinion.

Relatedly, and far from the only example, someone who was deported to death by the US government:


We wrote the book that Trump seems to be basing his policy off. There's a big cultural thing in Australia that seems to stem from us having no shared boarders. To get in, if you come by boat it's straight away off to an offshore detention centre outside of Australia. If you come by plane you have to lie about why you're coming (if you disclose that it's for asylum, you will be turned away at the airport) and then apply once in the country. The application process can take years and you aren't allowed to work, receive social security, or education or healthcare while you wait. I've actually only seen exceptions to this for gay people who arrived on student visas.
 
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I have been giggling at your username. I love hitchhikers guide

I totally get how you've ended up feeling like this. If you're truly set on it - and this is one of the more fucked up things I've ever said or suggested - is there a market in a city close by to hook up with someone for heroin for an overdose?

And on the other hand, is there any way of getting cash to you outside of internet banking? I've never had to transfer cash internationally without a bank account so I am not quite sure about how to do it... I just think money would solve a lot of issues here
Wow, you're actually prepared to send me money? This is unbelievable, I love Australians :) my first English teacher was from Sydney :)

I can get cash from my mum, but it's pretty dangerous buying from people at markets here, we do it in a different way and you need the fucking card.

I'm OK with trains. Not ideal,but with a bit of alcohol totally doable for me provided I can escape from home (mum locks me up when she leaves the apartment in moscow)

I can't believe the amount of sympathy guys, you're amazing,this forum is the best thing that's happened to me over the past 4 weeks. Ive got used to being woken up by children and teenagers screaming faggot outside my house, and now this. Thank you :) if I pull the partial off I'll die a relatively happy guy :)
 
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@Fordprefect 5:34. You can go out wearing a medical mask, hoodie or somehow avoiding people, go to the highway. There look for the car with the number of another region.
Yeah, it's risky af. However Moscow will give you an opportunity to get drunk and jump or take sn. Def better than fail with table salt and get sectioned
I agree, the salt thing is a no no, although for all we know it could work, I mean have you looked it up? It seems like it's different for different people, some go into coma quickly. I mean as a last resort,and it is lethal even if painful, there have not been many successful resuscitations (er, is that the word?)

Anyway, getting drugs is nigh on impossible now. I can't use the phone as its tracked, I haven't got cards any more and buying off strange people on the street using cash is unheard of here, well at least I've never done it. Heroin seems to be off the cards for me now.
Rocksandsand, I replied to you a long time ago but the post has to be approved by the moderator for some reason, I suppose it'll turn up in a while.

I just wanted to say that no, money won't help as I won't be able to use cash and i havent got cards anymore. But it's amazing you offered, THANK YOU, you're nice :)
I reread the whole hitchhikers guide last week, thought I'd finish reading right before dying, didn't work out sadly
 
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I agree, the salt thing is a no no, although for all we know it could work, I mean have you looked it up? It seems like it's different for different people, some go into coma quickly. I mean as a last resort,and it is lethal even if painful, there have not been many successful resuscitations (er, is that the word?)

Anyway, getting drugs is nigh on impossible now. I can't use the phone as its tracked, I haven't got cards any more and buying off strange people on the street using cash is unheard of here, well at least I've never done it. Heroin seems to be off the cards for me now.
Rocksandsand, I replied to you a long time ago but the post has to be approved by the moderator for some reason, I suppose it'll turn up in a while.

I just wanted to say that no, money won't help as I won't be able to use cash and i havent got cards anymore. But it's amazing you offered, THANK YOU, you're nice :)
I reread the whole hitchhikers guide last week, thought I'd finish reading right before dying, didn't work out sadly

Can I ask - how does your mother factor in here? Is she homophobic too? Does she know much about the drug use history?
 
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Can I ask - how does your mother factor in here? Is she homophobic too? Does she know much about the drug use history?
I think she hasn't seen the videos featuring me, nor did her boyfriend. I'm not sure how much they know. In late March this year I came home having a horrible withdrawal after a week long party, she had no idea I was gay or had drug problems, and I just said "mum, we gotta talk. I'm gay, I'm an addict and i have hiv. I need you to get me a psychiatrist". I don't think she ever recovered from that, we're a middle class family, she's a pretty conservative person. Her boyfriend is homophobic, the atmosphere at home is very tense, I mean they would really be better off without me, even objectively speaking. I have listened in on some of the conversations, I AM a burden, and I understand that. Who'd want a son like that. She's very embarrassed and disappointed. But she's been a lot of help, paying offmy debts multiple times, getting me shrinks, buying antidepressants... God this sounds awful. She loves me a lot but she's tired.
 
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I think she hasn't seen the videos featuring me, nor did her boyfriend. I'm not sure how much they know. In late March this year I came home having a horrible withdrawal after a week long party, she had no idea I was gay or had drug problems, and I just said "mum, we gotta talk. I'm gay, I'm an addict and i have hiv. I need you to get me a psychiatrist". I don't think she ever recovered from that, we're a middle class family, she's a pretty conservative person. Her boyfriend is homophobic, the atmosphere at home is very tense, I mean they would really be better off without me, even objectively speaking. I have listened in on some of the conversations, I AM a burden, and I understand that. Who'd want a son like that. She's very embarrassed and disappointed. But she's been a lot of help, paying of my DE ts multiple times, getting me shrinks, buying antidepressants... God this sounds awful. She loves me a lot but she's tired.

Would she support you getting out of the town or country?

I am so fucking sorry that a video got leaked. That is so fucked on so many levels. People are so uniquely fucked to eachother
 
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Everything had been relatively OK until I tried flakka. Never ever do that people. I can't stress this enough: NEVER do it. The high is better than crystal meth, the consequenses are more brutal than anything. Ýou just lose your mind. This whole outing happened because of that. I got into psychosis, had terrible hallucinations both visual and audio, and really half outed myself. I can't give you the details, but I nearly got myself into the hands of people who actually wanted to kill me - several times. It's madness.
 
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Everything had been relatively OK until I tried flakka. Never ever do that people. I can't stress this enough: NEVER do it. The high is better than crystal meth, the consequenses are more brutal than anything. Ýou just lose your mind. This whole outing happened because of that. I got into psychosis, had terrible hallucinations both visual and audio, and really half outed myself. I can't give you the details, but I nearly got myself into the hands of people who actually wanted to kill me - several times. It's madness.

Fuck. That sounds unbelievable. I hadn't heard of flakka until you mentioned it, and I had a quick google. It looks pretty intense. In Australia, meth is the big drug. I always enjoyed heroin a whole lot more though.
 
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Would she support you getting out of the town or country?

I am so fucking sorry that a video got leaked. That is so fucked on so many levels. People are so uniquely fucked to eachother
I'm not prepared to ask her for any more help. I'm nearly thirty and it's me who should be helping her.
I appreciate you trying to find a way around this fucking nightmare,but I've made up my mind, being totally sober: I'm getting out.

Fuck this feels like I'm talking to actual Jane Lane, she's such an incredible character xD I loved watching Daria, learned a lot of English from that show :)

You know,flakka is like meth that has been altered by the devil. It's a very angry kind of high, perfect for bdsm, oh god I'm getting flashbacks just thinking about it. It's ruined lot of lives in my country, streets are awash with it, people often die or go crazy within a year of using. It's the fentanyl of stimulants. The psychosis it creates is super intense.I ended up on the streets several times, oncehaving nothing on but underpants and trainers. Ive lost countless jobs because i could not stop using once the weekend ended. You get the idea :) I've done so much dumb shit on flakka I could write my own hitchhikers guide.
I just realized, in my country we actually call it "salt"xD

And just to illustrate: on flakka the idea of death is thrilling. Like every time I would smoke a bit of it, right away I'd be off to the drugstore for needles because shooting it up is of course the hardcore way to do it and im a hardcore kind of guy x D immediately after shooting up id get a few payday loans, rent a room somewhere thinking "right,here we go, fuck this, I wanna shoot up for a week and then I'll ctb, great idea" then on day three psychosis kicks in - with a vengeance - and things quickly get very very dark. I started using it in may 2018. Look where I am now. A lot of people die within half a year, it's usually suicide. I've actually considered jumping off 5th floor hotel window because I could hear my mum and mu psychiatrist behind the door talking of getting me sectioned. There was no one and the hotel staff spent hours trying to convince me. It's that kind of hell.
 
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Good morning, @Fordprefect - I'm very glad to see you. The intrepid @Rocksandsand has very good ideas that can help you. I just want you in a better state and place so that you can decide what you want to do and how. (((Hugs))) I'm so glad you didn't harm yourself - that's not what will help. x
 
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