Full suspension pain

[tobeistosuffer]

hello everyone! So I've been watching alot of full suspension videos, and most of the time they seem like they haven't really planned it out. I feel like it's been over complicated and we worry about the pain and failing, like where to place the rope. For example next to your jaw, the rope will obviously go up on your neck as you are suspended.. so does the technique really matter? but most of the times they are unconscious within seconds… other times, like the Syrian girl video, she looks like she is struggling. I tell myself it's okay because I have endured more pain in this life than I will those few seconds, plus I won't be able to back out since I kicked the chair. What do you guys think? Does all that really matter?? I mean a good anchor and a good rope and your as good as done right? I think the biggest problem is coming into terms you are going to die, and you will feel pain.

 

[TheHolySword]

Everyone wants to be as comfortable as possible. They want it to be peaceful and fast. It's not all possible. The truth is that while it's scary, you have to be committed to pain to die. What do those moments of pain matter in the end, when you will cease to exist?

 

[tobeistosuffer]

I agree. Though life was not peaceful and fast, so I do not imagine death to be this way. We were made to think of death as something bad. Instead of kill or die, we use unalive because we are so scared to even comprehend this. I sometimes think about ixtab, how hanging was seen as a honorable way to die. Wish we could just be able to face it all.

 

[Welcome2themachine]

I have considered this method, however if I were to go through with it this way I would prefer to drop hang to quickly alleviate any further pain. Since youre already committed by kicking the chair why not make it painless as possible. I have also almost had succes several times using a 3 foot bungie cord with plastic hooks on both ends. I would cross wrap it around my neck as tight as I could get it and then connect both hooks. It immediately started cutting off blood circulation causing convulsions, loss of balance and close to becoming unconscious. SI kicks in though so I always was able to unhook but it wasn't painful just sort of scary. It is kind of like putting yourself in your own sleeper hold this way. If you can tolerate it for 15-30 seconds I imagine you will pass out quickly and then that will be it. This is just from my experience and in no way is advice for this method.

 

[BlueberryDeer]

I don't know your life circumstance, but, in my case, I'm aware that the pain is the price to spend to pass away. In theory, if in full suspension the carotid is pressured enough, the unconsciousness is achieved in 10-20 seconds. The convulsions and another postures in the hanging videos is part of the process of dying, but, theoretically, the consciousness were lost for the cerebral damage.
I know death is scary, I know that no one wants to feel pain of any kind. I want too, but this method require to feel it, unfortunately (I think).

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

What I've learned:

1. Don't breathe
2. Don't swallow

Just let your throat get squished. Place the rope high and tight, take your last breath, and relax. Don't try to do anything with your throat.

 

[JesiBel]

Regarding the pain... you will feel the compression of the ligature around your neck tightening under your full weight in the seconds you are conscious. The ligature will penetrate and block all structures in the neck, veins, arteries, airway..

Consciousness is lost before 15 seconds, 20 seconds maximum but these are less frequent cases:

Mechanism and death process in hanging: 2 research pdfs

You can even verify this information by watching real attempts:

Videos of succesful hangings

For this reason, the correct placement of the ligature is crucial to ensure continuous and even compression of both carotid arteries. These arteries carry oxygenated blood to the brain, and their proper blockage will cause a more rapid loss of consciousness.

After losing consciousness, a phase of involuntary movements of the body begins (convulsions/ spasms, decerebrate rigidity, abdominal movements, decorticate rigidity..), which is the body's reaction to the lack of oxygenated blood flow, signaling brain damage and imminent death.

Brain oxygen deprivation and death

An unconscious person will not respond to external and internal stimuli

(More detailed information in the hyperlinks)

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

The pressure on the neck is the higher the thinner the rope is and the higher your body weight is, if you hang full. But you need only rather little pressure to close the carotids. So additional pressure is only additional pain as the pain is the higher the higher the pressure is. I am 90 kg and pass out repeatedly if the rope diameter is 20 mm. If your weight is 45 kg a rope diameter of 10 mm would be sufficient.

 

[erpelwatcher]

The pressure on the neck is the higher the thinner the rope is and the higher your body weight is, if you hang full. But you need only rather little pressure to close the carotids. So additional pressure is only additional pain as the pain is the higher the higher the pressure is. I am 90 kg and pass out repeatedly if the rope diameter is 20 mm. If your weight is 45 kg a rope diameter of 10 mm would be sufficient.

Hi, i also weigh around 90 kg witha hight of ca. 1,8m (or 6 feet) . i have ropes of hte diameter of 12 and 10 mm. so should i rather go for ones with a bigger diameter?

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Hallo, ich wiege auch etwa 90 kg und bin ca. 1,8 m groß. Ich habe Seile mit einem Durchmesser von 12 und 10 mm. Sollte ich also lieber welche mit einem größeren Durchmesser nehmen?

Hi, i also weigh around 90 kg witha hight of ca. 1,8m (or 6 feet) . i have ropes of hte diameter of 12 and 10 mm. so should i rather go for ones with a bigger diameter?

I would use a diameter of 20 or at least 16 mm.

 

[erpelwatcher]

I would use a diameter of 20 or at least 16 mm.

Thanks, I will order some new ropes in addition and try the 16 and 20 mm ones. I also thought of going more smaller like around 12 mm but it reeally depends on weight.

Btw. what was your Material of the rope if you can still recall it? Paracord doenst have it in the diamater i need it and my current choice would be Polypropylen than.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Thanks, I will order some new ropes in addition and try the 16 and 20 mm ones. I also thought of going more smaller like around 12 mm but it reeally depends on weight.

Btw. what was your Material of the rope if you can still recall it? Paracord doenst have it in the diamater i need it and my current choice would be Polypropylen than.

It is Polyester (Ropline Rio).

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[erpelwatcher]

It is Polyester (Ropline Rio).

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Thanks. Mine is: Polypropylen-Multifil and has a breaking weight (Mindestbruchlast) of 2.2 tons. It holds my weight as I just tested.