Fentanyl vs N (ready to go...)

[Dead Mans Shoes]

If you look a little further than your standard markets you will find fentanyl. I just wouldn't trust N off any of the DW sites other than A in the PPH.

 

[Overit1221]

A's email is on pg. 281 of the PPeH. Just contact him using Protonmail.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-peaceful-pill-ehandbook-march-24-2019-revision.14416/

Are there any do's or dont

You referring to the myth that you can die from simply touching fentanyl? Yeah, that's a myth.

It's not ENTIRELY a myth though it is exaggerated. As an RN I have personally seen accidental overdoses due to contact with fentanyl transdermal patches. The medication is in a gel form generally with an adhesive property attached to a foil or plastic square or rectangular patch. Each patch is worn for 3 days before being changed at which point very little active medication is left in the patch. Doctors use this transdermal method for round the clock delivery of pain control that delivers a slow steady dose of the powerful narcotic. One very tragic case was a child that got a hold of her grandmother's used patch from the trash bin in the bathroom. The grandmother noticed she was drowsy and just thought she was tired or getting ill and laid her down for a nap (the patch was found on the childs thigh concieled by her shorts. Unable to wake the child from her nap the grandmother called 911. The child passed away from the overdose before EMS arrived and the grandmother (her legal guardian) was inconsolable. The child was 6 years old and again this occurred from a USED patch.
Another case was a young woman 18-20 years old with no history or evidence of drug or alcohol abuse, no history or evidence of depression or suicidal thoughts. She was of a slight build weighing approximately 130lbs and had suffered a back injury but had no health insurance or means to pay for the very expensive testing and treatment that her doctor said was required. A well meaning family member gave her a 50mcg patch which the woman cut in half before applying and laying down to rest around 10pm. She was found unresponsive around 7am when a friend tried to pick her up to go to their college class that morning. She passed away several hours prior to that. The biggest contributing factor to her death in that situation was that she had never previously taken any narcotics and had no tolerance to them. I have seen plenty of drug addicts wearing multiple 50mcg and even 100mcg patches without any symptoms of overdose or sedation but they have built a tolerance to narcotics and it therefore would require a much larger dose to have the effect of a fatal overdose. The fatal dose of any narcotic is different for each person based on weight, metabolism, other substances present in the body and that persons personal tolerance.
I also had a family member that was a known drug addict that overdosed on a fentanyl patch by placing it in her mouth so that a larger amount of the narcotic would enter her blood stream more quickly. Someone called EMS when she became unresponsive in a public. She was saved using narcan to reverse the effects of the narcotic.
I believe that the myth of death from touching fentanyl originates from the misuse of fentanyl transdermal patches. Fentanyl is a VERY strong narcotic...100x stronger than morphine and someone that is inexperienced with narcotics is at a much higher risk of having a fatal or potentially fatal complication with any narcotic but especially fentanyl due to its strength.
Sorry if that was boring or too much...I really enjoy being a nurse but people tend to get annoyed when I go on and on about medical things

 

[JadedGray]

Are there any do's or dont

It's not ENTIRELY a myth though it is exaggerated. As an RN I have personally seen accidental overdoses due to contact with fentanyl transdermal patches. The medication is in a gel form generally with an adhesive property attached to a foil or plastic square or rectangular patch. Each patch is worn for 3 days before being changed at which point very little active medication is left in the patch. Doctors use this transdermal method for round the clock delivery of pain control that delivers a slow steady dose of the powerful narcotic. One very tragic case was a child that got a hold of her grandmother's used patch from the trash bin in the bathroom. The grandmother noticed she was drowsy and just thought she was tired or getting ill and laid her down for a nap (the patch was found on the childs thigh concieled by her shorts. Unable to wake the child from her nap the grandmother called 911. The child passed away from the overdose before EMS arrived and the grandmother (her legal guardian) was inconsolable. The child was 6 years old and again this occurred from a USED patch.
Another case was a young woman 18-20 years old with no history or evidence of drug or alcohol abuse, no history or evidence of depression or suicidal thoughts. She was of a slight build weighing approximately 130lbs and had suffered a back injury but had no health insurance or means to pay for the very expensive testing and treatment that her doctor said was required. A well meaning family member gave her a 50mcg patch which the woman cut in half before applying and laying down to rest around 10pm. She was found unresponsive around 7am when a friend tried to pick her up to go to their college class that morning. She passed away several hours prior to that. The biggest contributing factor to her death in that situation was that she had never previously taken any narcotics and had no tolerance to them. I have seen plenty of drug addicts wearing multiple 50mcg and even 100mcg patches without any symptoms of overdose or sedation but they have built a tolerance to narcotics and it therefore would require a much larger dose to have the effect of a fatal overdose. The fatal dose of any narcotic is different for each person based on weight, metabolism, other substances present in the body and that persons personal tolerance.
I also had a family member that was a known drug addict that overdosed on a fentanyl patch by placing it in her mouth so that a larger amount of the narcotic would enter her blood stream more quickly. Someone called EMS when she became unresponsive in a public. She was saved using narcan to reverse the effects of the narcotic.
I believe that the myth of death from touching fentanyl originates from the misuse of fentanyl transdermal patches. Fentanyl is a VERY strong narcotic...100x stronger than morphine and someone that is inexperienced with narcotics is at a much higher risk of having a fatal or potentially fatal complication with any narcotic but especially fentanyl due to its strength.
Sorry if that was boring or too much...I really enjoy being a nurse but people tend to get annoyed when I go on and on about medical things

I think you're just supposed to inform him that you're interested in purchasing N (2 bottles should suffice) and where you're located. When he responds he will discuss cost and payment options. If he doesn't mention it, you should ask him about sending it through a private courier, you're more likely to receive it that way even though it's more expensive. I haven't personally contacted him, so I can only go by the information here.

 

[Overit1221]

I think you're just supposed to inform him that you're interested in purchasing N (2 bottles should suffice) and where you're located. When he responds he will discuss cost and payment options. If he doesn't mention it, you should ask him about sending it through a private courier, you're more likely to receive it that way even though it's more expensive. I haven't personally contacted him, so I can only go by the information here.

Thank you for the info...much appreciated!

 

[JadedGray]

Thank you for the info...much appreciated!

You're very welcome.

 

[Umbra]

Are there any do's or dont

It's not ENTIRELY a myth though it is exaggerated. As an RN I have personally seen accidental overdoses due to contact with fentanyl transdermal patches.

Well yeah I'd expect that from a transdermal patch, but there's stuff going around that simply touching the stuff (in its powder form alone) can kill.

 

[Ruffian]

Hi everyone,

I am ready to go. I printed my suicide notes. And I am ready to book a hotel room to spend my last days. But, I still have some concerns.

Currently have more than enough Fentanyl powder to kill me (approximately 500mg to 1000mg).

My way of going would be by snorting as much Fentanyl as I can get in (never snorted anything before, so kinda anxious about it).

IV is not an option, cause I'd probably mess that up. I am not sure if mixing it into water and drinking it like that would be a good idea (I'd prefer this though over everything else cause it's so easy)


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Guys, I am really afraid of Fentanyl not giving me a peaceful death like drinking N could.

My concerns with snorting Fentanyl are:

• Will I pass out before having feelings of suffocation?
• Do I need benzodiazepines to fall asleep beforehand?
• Do I need to take antiemetics even when snorting?
• Do I need to make warning signs around my body for the hotel workers cause Fentanyl is so deadly?

I really want to know if attempting with Fentanyl would achieve a peaceful passing like N's A could give me.

And if so, why aren't more people considering Fentanyl instead of N? What's the reason Fentanyl is barely discussed?

Sorry for spamming this forum about Fentanyl, I read the PPeH but unfortunately I am still left with these questions eating my brain.

Thank you in advance.

Yes to the anti-emetics. I threw up so much the first time I did heroin it was ridiculous.

 

[toolateforme]

I'd test the fentanyl first with reagents just to make sure it's not cut with anything funny.

Also, maybe plugging/boofing would be more effective than snorting it? Apparently not everything is absorbed the same way - learned this the hard way when trying to sniff ketamine, I barely felt anything because I wasn't letting my mucous membranes absorb it properly. Whereas with cocaine I know you can just snort it without much attention paid to technique - it can get absorbed into the bloodstream and whatnot so not everything has to be absorbed by the mucous membranes like with ket. I don't know how it is with fentanyl but boofing would bypass the potential issues with snorting if you don't mind putting an oral syringe in your butt. Plus it's supposed to be more intense since it bypasses the first pass effect and doesn't risk any of the drug getting lost in your system.

This thread is pretty accurate other than the part about boiling the water (as you can see in the comments). It just needs to be dissolved in warm water - boiling it might destroy the compound.

 

[Taylor]

And if so, why aren't more people considering Fentanyl instead of N? What's the reason Fentanyl is barely discussed?

Fent is way harder to acquire and trust to be pure. Its crazy illegal and dangerous too. N comes from A and we know what it is. Its fairly safe unless you drink it.

This. Plus your only option of attaining it is through the darknet, which is incredibly risky (not to mention near incomprehensible with all the encryption junk you need to know) and also full of scam.

 

[Overit1221]

Well yeah I'd expect that from a transdermal patch, but there's stuff going around that simply touching the stuff (in its powder form alone) can kill.

Yeah that's just silly, people heard about the patches killing from contact and applied to all forms of fentanyl.

 

[Maria M]

N because you never know what to expect with Fentanyl it might not be pure and you could have a long drawn out overdose.

What if one gram of street fentanyl was taken? Do you think purity is still likely to be an issue with such a high dose? I will likely use it intravenously. Still debating between N and fentanyl. Also, I don't want to take the time to wait for test strips.

 

[JadedGray]

What if one gram of street fentanyl was taken? Do you think purity is still likely to be an issue with such a high dose? I will likely use it intravenously. Still debating between N and fentanyl. Also, I don't want to take the time to wait for test strips.

I don't know anything about getting Fentanyl, to be honest. I've only had it in the hospital where it's guaranteed to be pure. If you OD on a high dose, even if it's not pure, it would probably be successful (unless someone intervenes) but it might not be a peaceful death and a long drawn out overdose. I would choose N because it comes from a trusted source mentioned in the PPeH and we know it's reliable from all the people who have taken it and successfully passed away.

 

[lost_soul83]

What if one gram of street fentanyl was taken? Do you think purity is still likely to be an issue with such a high dose? I will likely use it intravenously. Still debating between N and fentanyl. Also, I don't want to take the time to wait for test strips.

I think that would be more than enough even if purity wasn't the greatest. Also keep in mind that the very light colored heroin usually contains a good amount of fentanyl but you'd have to use more to get the desired outcome.

 

[LadyAbandon]

What if one gram of street fentanyl was taken? Do you think purity is still likely to be an issue with such a high dose? I will likely use it intravenously. Still debating between N and fentanyl. Also, I don't want to take the time to wait for test strips.

More than likely, one gram will be sufficient. It's a matter of how certain you want to be. With street drugs, you never know if they gave you what they say they did, and purity is always in question. Do you know an experienced user who could check the taste etc (or even sample a small amount) and let you know if it seems legit? One important question: do you have a tolerance for opioids? If you are opioid naive then a gram of street heroin would almost certainly be lethal, let alone fentanyl. If you are accustomed to opioids and have an established tolerance, that makes a big difference.

 

[Maria M]

More than likely, one gram will be sufficient. It's a matter of how certain you want to be. With street drugs, you never know if they gave you what they say they did, and purity is always in question. Do you know an experienced user who could check the taste etc (or even sample a small amount) and let you know if it seems legit? One important question: do you have a tolerance for opioids? If you are opioid naive then a gram of street heroin would almost certainly be lethal, let alone fentanyl. If you are accustomed to opioids and have an established tolerance, that makes a big difference.

Thanks. I do have someone who could check the taste for me. I don't have a tolerance for opioids, which is why I think a gram would work.

 

[Overit1221]

What if one gram of street fentanyl was taken? Do you think purity is still likely to be an issue with such a high dose? I will likely use it intravenously. Still debating between N and fentanyl. Also, I don't want to take the time to wait for test strips.

One gram of fentanyl is a very large dose so I would question the purity. Most dealers will cut it with something so you would be taking a huge risk buuuuuuuut sometimes I know i get to where I don't care about the risk so I understand that.

 

[NextSummer]

Anybody knows how much a deadly dose of Fentanyl or Heroin costs? Is it cheaper than N?

 

[lost_soul83]

Anybody knows how much a deadly dose of Fentanyl or Heroin costs? Is it cheaper than N?

It's a lot cheaper than a deadly dose of N and easier to get, the heroin anyway. And most heroin has fentanyl in it anyway.

 

[MartEU]

So fentanyl absolutely can be as peaceful as it comes and would be my #1 preferred method if I had a reliable source right now. (Feel free to PM if you want to help a sister out.) I have a long history of opioid use and I can assure you from experience that opioid overdose feels like drifting off into dreams if gradual, and just going out like a light if not, but it's painless and there's no feeling of suffocation. If you have any awareness at all, you just feel like you don't NEED to breathe anymore.

500 to 1000 mg is WAY more than you will need if it's a reasonable purity, people can OD on micrograms of the stuff. I agree that test strips are a good idea just to make sure you have what you think you have.

IV use is really the best way to go and is really not difficult, if you are interested in some resources I can help you out. I would think snorting or anal use would be your next best option.

Benzos would be overkill in my opinion but wouldn't hurt just to add another layer of certainty to lethality. Antiemetics are probably not necessary but you can definitely vomit from an opioid overdose even with IV use, so again, wouldn't hurt. Generally the sound of vomiting in a hotel room is not enough to bring in the EMTs, think of all the drunken hotel parties that go on. But who wants to spend their last moments throwing up if you can help it?

The scare stories about EMTs overdosing on fentanyl just from touching a grain of it are pretty much an urban myth, though anesthesiologists have experienced the effects from spilling liquid from a vial on their hands. However, the scare stories have been spread enough that people do believe it and might appreciate a warning. Keep in mind though that if you leave signs it's that much quicker they would Narcan you in case of a rescue.

Good luck, and like i said, feel free to PM with any questions. May you find the peace you seek.

If you still need help with the fent let me know.

 

[lost_soul83]

If you still need help with the fent let me know.

I am also looking for some fent. If you could help me out please let me know. Thanks! Have a great day!

 

[MartEU]

I am also looking for some fent. If you could help me out please let me know. Thanks! Have a great day!

Are you familiar with Tor, bitcoin and Darknet markets?

 

[lost_soul83]

Are you familiar with Tor, bitcoin and Darknet markets?

I've never purchased anything on the dark web but I've used tor to browse and I know what bitcoin is, just not where exactly to purchase it.

 

[MartEU]

I've never purchased anything on the dark web but I've used tor to browse and I know what bitcoin is, just not where exactly to purchase it.

I don't know what the rules here are surrounding sourcing illegal chemicals, if its allowed I'll link you to some guides on how to use Darknet markets and pgp.

 

[pane]

I don't know what the rules here are surrounding sourcing illegal chemicals, if its allowed I'll link you to some guides on how to use Darknet markets and pgp.

MartEU you might as well post the links to the guides you have about using the dark web to buy Fent. There's a megathread here where people discuss buying Nembutal from a veterinarian in Mexico who sells it around the world to people and that's obviously an illegal chemical.

Click on the "Rules & FAQ" link at the top of the page if you want to read up on what's allowable on the forum. I think posting links to informational guides is permissible.

 

[MartEU]

MartEU you might as well post the links to the guides you have about using the dark web to buy Fent. There's a megathread here where people discuss buying Nembutal from a veterinarian in Mexico who sells it around the world to people and that's obviously an illegal chemical.

Click on the "Rules & FAQ" link at the top of the page if you want to read up on what's allowable on the forum. I think posting links to informational guides is permissible.

Thanks, I read them but didn't see anything about sourcing so I was hesitant.

 

[pane]

Thanks, I read them but didn't see anything about sourcing so I was hesitant.

Advertising, selling and/or asking people for money is prohibited. You're not doing that. You're just posting links to sources of information.

 

[MartEU]

Reminder, browsing darkweb markets isn't illegal, ordering from it is, from my experience it is pretty safe if you encrypt all your messages and don't overdo it, there always is a risk.


I used this guide, you can just install and download Tor Browser for free(just search tor browser on Google) this guide will explain market places.
Dreamnet market is a good one.
Do some research on vendors before you buy from them, if they have many orders they most likely will be fine.

A Noobs PGP Guide using Gpg4Win [Easy 5 Min Setup] - Deep Web

To all the noobs unfamiliar about how to use the PGP Encryption this guide will be very helpful since it has been collected from various trusted sources.

www.deepweb-sites.com

This guide is for PGP, this is the encryption methode that is used to send messages to vendors, it's a bit of a struggle to understand but I think this guide does a good job.
Your public key is the thing you will need to add to your account on a marketplace, that way vendors can decrypt the messages you send them.

Bitcoins are a bit easier, you will need a "wallet" (like a bank to store them)
Www.blockchain.com is what I've used, buying bitcoins is a bit tricky depending on the place you life.
I used www.bitonic.com because that was the easiest for me.
If you want to buy them you need to enter your receiving adres, you can find that on the site/application you made your wallet on.
Once you bought bitcoin you need to send it to your market account, you will find an adres to send it to there, always make sure to double check the adres you send to and to buy more bitcoin than you need, changing prices and transactions fees take a little bit off.

If you are gonna order please use your real name and adres, using a fake name will only be suspicious because that name will not be registered to your adres.
Always encrypt everything you send to vendors.
I think I covered everything, it's not an easy thing to get into so I would just take your time and make sure that you understand what you are doing so that you don't make any mistakes.

If you have questions I'm happy to answer them, I hope I covered everything.

 

[GeorgeJL]

I would say no because fent is hard to get pure.

 

[Laena Osiris]

Has anyone had any luck finding a good source of fentanyl using this information? The quiet suggests yes... or lots of waiting. I've previously had the set up to buy stuff from the dark net but currently feel very paranoid about ordering to where I am living as it is my sisters house, though I am registered there and would use my name, I couldn't bear getting her into trouble. If anyone finds a good source and orders with no problems, I'd be v grateful to hear about it. Esp if the package doesn't look like drugs. I am in UK.

Thanks guys

 

[Suicidal4Ever]

So fentanyl absolutely can be as peaceful as it comes and would be my #1 preferred method if I had a reliable source right now. (Feel free to PM if you want to help a sister out.) I have a long history of opioid use and I can assure you from experience that opioid overdose feels like drifting off into dreams if gradual, and just going out like a light if not, but it's painless and there's no feeling of suffocation. If you have any awareness at all, you just feel like you don't NEED to breathe anymore.

500 to 1000 mg is WAY more than you will need if it's a reasonable purity, people can OD on micrograms of the stuff. I agree that test strips are a good idea just to make sure you have what you think you have.

IV use is really the best way to go and is really not difficult, if you are interested in some resources I can help you out. I would think snorting or anal use would be your next best option.

Benzos would be overkill in my opinion but wouldn't hurt just to add another layer of certainty to lethality. Antiemetics are probably not necessary but you can definitely vomit from an opioid overdose even with IV use, so again, wouldn't hurt. Generally the sound of vomiting in a hotel room is not enough to bring in the EMTs, think of all the drunken hotel parties that go on. But who wants to spend their last moments throwing up if you can help it?

The scare stories about EMTs overdosing on fentanyl just from touching a grain of it are pretty much an urban myth, though anesthesiologists have experienced the effects from spilling liquid from a vial on their hands. However, the scare stories have been spread enough that people do believe it and might appreciate a warning. Keep in mind though that if you leave signs it's that much quicker they would Narcan you in case of a rescue.

Good luck, and like i said, feel free to PM with any questions. May you find the peace you seek.

I have 15 hydrocodone pills And 10 codeine pills. Have you ever had a od expierence with this? How was it?