Method Fentanyl overdose

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I found a "free" sample of china white fentanyl on empire market, $5 if you've ordered before and $10 for new purchases. It's .1g, and for 10 dollars worth of crypto, is this enough to kill me if I take all of it at once? There's also different levels of purity with level x being the closest to purity and for experienced opiate users. As someone with no opiate tolerance, do you guys think .1g of fentanyl taken all at once would be enough to end my life? Also, how would it feel? I've heard that it would feel good as it is an opiate and I would passout and die but I am not sure exactly. Thanks.

 

[Lookingforabus]

Not reliably. [Edit: removed inaccurate calculations based on IV LD50 in mice.]

If you think about it, a "sample" from a seller of recreational drugs is likely to be a single dose for recreational purposes, so that's really not likely to be enough to OD on.

 

[Throwaway9787]

Not reliably. Fentanyl has an IV LD50 of about 3mg/kilogram in mice (.1 grams is 100 mg). So at that dosage, even if you were a 33 kilogram mouse, you'd only die about half the time, and I'm betting you're not a mouse, and that you weigh more than 33 kilos (which is about 70 pounds).

If you think about it, a "sample" from a seller of recreational drugs is likely to be a single dose for recreational purposes, so that's really not likely to be enough to OD on.

2mg of fentanyl is a fatal dose for humans

 

[Lookingforabus]

2mg of fentanyl is a fatal dose for humans

No way a drug dealer is giving out 50 times the lethal dose as a sample. Whatever it actually is (and/or whatever the purity it has) isn't going to be enough to reliably kill.

 

[Throwaway9787]

No way a drug dealer is giving out 50 times the lethal dose as a sample. Whatever it actually is (and/or whatever the purity it has) isn't going to be enough to reliably kill.

2mg of fentanyl is a fatal dose. I dont know what he is selling but 2mg of real fentanyl is fatal

 

[Jean Améry]

No way a drug dealer is giving out 50 times the lethal dose as a sample. Whatever it actually is (and/or whatever the purity it has) isn't going to be enough to reliably kill.

That seems quite reasonable. It's most likely heroin laced with fentanyl. I agree on the realiability issue, certainly with that amount and the fact the dealer is handing it out almost for free.

2mg of fentanyl is a fatal dose.

Estimated lethal dose: I would not bet on it even if it was pure fentanyl. They can't very well experiment on humans with this so it's based on experiments with animals.

Since you seem to be well acquainted with the darknet: is it actually possible to buy pure fentanyl there? You may PM me if you'd rather not discuss this out in the open.

 

[Lookingforabus]

2mg of fentanyl is a fatal dose. I dont know what he is selling but 2mg of real fentanyl is fatal

Well, that's what the DEA says, but frankly, there's every reason to suspect their motives and believe that they're exaggerating that. ("Opiod epidemic" hysteria and fighting to protect people from reacteational pharmacology and medically ridiculous claims about first responders getting sick from performing CPR on "heroin" ODs.) Once upon a time, they told us that one puff of marijuana caused addiction, psychosis and incurable insanity, after all. (Ever see Reefer Madness? It's hilarious in a pathetic kind of way.)

It's definitely very potent, just saying it's probably not as dangerous as the drug-warrior, ban-all-fun-things jackasses say.

According to the FDA, LD50s of IV fentanyl are 3mg/kg in rats, 1mg/kg in cats, 14mg/kg in dogs and 0.03mg/kg in monkeys. That would seem to put the LD50 closer to a few mgs, and a near certain fatal dose at several mgs.

hxxps://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2013/016619s034lbl.pdf

That seems quite reasonable. It's most likely heroin laced with fentanyl. I agree on the realiability issue, certainly with that amount and the fact the dealer is handing it out almost for free.

I'm not a recreational "heroin" user, but I've known some, and a tenth of a gram of "heroin" is a standard single use amount. That's .1 grams of powder, which is mostly filler material. So this is probably a case of someone selling a standard single use of "heroin" that's basically all filler, with a tiny amount of fentanyl mixed in to make the powder good for a single high, same as it was back when "heroin" was actually heroin mixed with a bunch of filler powder.

 

[Throwaway9787]

Well, that's what the DEA says, but frankly, there's every reason to suspect their motives and believe that they're exaggerating that. ("Opiod epidemic" hysteria and fighting to protect people from reacteational pharmacology and medically ridiculous claims about first responders getting sick from performing CPR on "heroin" ODs.) Once upon a time, they told us that one puff of marijuana caused addiction, psychosis and incurable insanity, after all. (Ever see Reefer Madness? It's hilarious in a pathetic kind of way.)

It's definitely very potent, just saying it's probably not as dangerous as the drug-warrior, ban-all-fun-things jackasses say.

According to the FDA, LD50s of IV fentanyl are 3mg/kg in rats, 1mg/kg in cats, 14mg/kg in dogs and 0.03mg/kg in monkeys. That would seem to put the LD50 closer to a few mgs, and a near certain fatal dose at several mgs.

hxxps://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2013/016619s034lbl.pdf



I'm not a recreational "heroin" user, but I've known some, and a tenth of a gram of "heroin" is a standard single use amount. That's .1 grams of powder, which is mostly filler material. So this is probably a case of someone selling a standard single use of "heroin" that's basically all filler, with a tiny amount of fentanyl mixed in to make the powder good for a single high, same as it was back when "heroin" was actually heroin mixed with a bunch of filler powder.

Guide to a self chosen humane death offers a much lower dose than what your stating. Micrograms. 70,000 people have died from fentanyl overdose. Doctors themselves have said 2mg is the lethal dose, in a vice documentary about fentanyl epidemic. Go look at the lethal dose given in "Guide to a humane self chosen death". Written by an anesthesiologist.

 

[Mortalscreensaver]

How can I order this for myself. I've been looking for fentanyl

 

[JimFord99]

Yeah, me too.

 

[Throwaway9787]

How can I order this for myself. I've been looking for fentanyl

empire market

 

[JimFord99]

You are a star, I love you . This weekend I am going to do the TOR and dark web thing ...

 

[Mortalscreensaver]

Is this something that can be done on a phone or is laptop needed

 

[Lookingforabus]

Doctors themselves have said 2mg is the lethal dose, in a vice documentary about fentanyl epidemic.

And is that based on experience, or are they just parroting back the party line from the DEA?

I figure that you if can get your hands on 2 mg, you can get your hands on 6 mg. If you really want to go out, why not take a massive overdose, instead of a minimum overdose? I'd want to be extra sure, personally.

Relatedly, a case study of a 62 year old cancer patient who was on 1mg/hour of fentanyl patches linked below.

hxxps://www.jabfm.org/content/17/5/388

 

[JimFord99]

You need to have access to the internet. What I know so far you need to download a TOR browser. I do not know how yet how to access the empire market. But I am sure Throwaway9787 will give me a helping hand this week end.

 

[Lookingforabus]

Is this something that can be done on a phone or is laptop needed

You can download Tor browsers for mobile platforms (Android, at least).

 

[JimFord99]

Is there one in the Apple store which can be recommended?

 

[Dystopia]

I'm pretty sure what he's selling is an analogue of fentanyl. Seems to me it's become increasingly difficult to source pure fentanyl or derivatives since the China ban.

 

[Mortalscreensaver]

What does analogue of fentanyl mean? Is it not real?

 

[JimFord99]

Good point. I would like to know as well ...

 

[Lookingforabus]

Is there one in the Apple store which can be recommended?

Look for the "Onion Browser". I think it's less secure and less private than Tor, but it will let you access the same websites as Tor. I've seen recommendations to use it with a VPN service for that reason, so maybe the cops would be able to track you if you're not using a VPN.

 

[Dystopia]

What does analogue of fentanyl mean? Is it not real?

An analogue is just a slightly different chemical by tweaking the synthesis. Most research chemicals or "legal highs" do this to get around the law in various countries.

Here are some examples:

List of fentanyl analogues - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Simple changes can make a chemical more or less potent, have slightly different effects and durations.

I think the source people referring to here is an analogue due to the length he claims it lasts and also as people have mentioned here; the dosage. It could be very weak potency fentanyl or something completely different though..

 

[Mortalscreensaver]

Hmm so is this even worth pursuing? I need the goods

 

[JimFord99]

Thanks for educating me.

Hmm so is this even worth pursuing? I need the goods

Yep, it is. I personally take every hint I get and check it out later. The more you know the more you get.

 

[Throwaway9787]

Hmm so is this even worth pursuing? I need the goods

Yeah if you take enough

 

[Lookingforabus]

Hmm so is this even worth pursuing? I need the goods

Any opioid will stop your breathing if you take enough of it. Most fentanyl analogues are similar in strength to fentanyl, some are weaker, some are stronger. A massive OD would work whether it's actually fentanyl or if it's an analogue.